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msc - 04 Dec 2006 04:21 GMT
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This is from 27 days near my furnace in mostly moderate air , now double
that in bad air days. This is less then one month, multiply that by years
and you get an idea what people are breathin and why they are poisoning
people in NE. Why we might even have 34,000 kids everyday not going to
school. Why one in five kids in some areas of ne are needing asthma meds.
Here is your proof.
runcyclexcski@yahoo.com - 04 Dec 2006 04:50 GMT
> This is from 27 days near my furnace in mostly moderate air , now double
> that in bad air days. This is less then one month, multiply that by years
> and you get an idea what people are breathin and why they are poisoning
> people in NE.

not only in NE?

has anyone here tried wearing a face mask for a pronlonged period
during the day? One would not want to wear a mask for life, but,
perhaps, wearing it for a week could disrupt the vicious cycle of
auto-inflammation and raise one's baseline. At least, this is what
prednisone dose anyway (AFAIK).
msc - 04 Dec 2006 05:10 GMT
I have wore a mask to sleep, breathing in thru the mask and breathin out
thru my nose not within my mask. I actually think it helped a little. photo
evidence is but one link to what is happening. This is why I have been
posting about this for four years. Every person downwind or gettting
moderate amounts of this poison not only get it indoor but outdoors. i have
done everything humanly possible to get people to act, but instead we have
to actually argue this in the Supreme Court as whether damage needs to be
cleaned and I would not be surprised that the pollution and its effects
could be proven in one hundred different ways and the Suprem Court led by
conservatives would still say its not proven.

>> This is from 27 days near my furnace in mostly moderate air , now double
>> that in bad air days. This is less then one month, multiply that by years
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> auto-inflammation and raise one's baseline. At least, this is what
> prednisone dose anyway (AFAIK).
runcyclexcski@yahoo.com - 04 Dec 2006 05:48 GMT
> breathing in thru the mask and breathin out
> thru my nose not within my mask.

You could actually do it unconciosly, while sleeping? I mean the
breathing pattern.

> i have
> done everything humanly possible to get people to act, but instead we have
> to actually argue this in the Supreme Court as whether damage needs to be
> cleaned and I would not be surprised that the pollution and its effects
> could be proven in one hundred different ways and the Suprem Court led by
> conservatives would still say its not proven.

is pollution especially bad in your partular area? Like, made a huge
concrete factory? Otherwise I don't see such a fight can lead to
anything in short-term.
runcyclexcski@yahoo.com - 04 Dec 2006 05:49 GMT
partular == particular.
TRN - 05 Dec 2006 21:47 GMT
If it makes you feel any better, this is not the first time
environmentalists have sued EPA. That time EPA lost and the Superfund money
was allocated. Remember Love Canal?

> I have wore a mask to sleep, breathing in thru the mask and breathin out
> thru my nose not within my mask. I actually think it helped a little. photo
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> > auto-inflammation and raise one's baseline. At least, this is what
> > prednisone dose anyway (AFAIK).
k8vf-Mark - 07 Dec 2006 05:11 GMT
Using a lower efficiency filter will NEVER be better than using a
higher efficiency unit.

In Air Cond.(cooling) season you MAY run into a frosted over evaporator
when the filter gets too dirty and air flow gets restricted.  Otherwise
higher efficiency is always better......

Have you sealed around the filter with tape, and/or the door to
preclude any air by-passing the filter?  It makes a difference.

Mark
mcs - 07 Dec 2006 05:39 GMT
> Using a lower efficiency filter will NEVER be better than using a
> higher efficiency unit.
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>
> Mark

Mark
I am lucky I can figure out how to put the filter in, next to electro
something filter machine that doesn't seem to work. The filter seems to be
where the air comes thru the house and where the heater guy told me where it
goes. I see no air pass thru that itsn't covered by the filter. Just look at
the filter and you can see it does collect the dirt. But thanks for your
analysis about which filter to use, I will believe you. I think 3m just came
out with an even higher rated filter. I saw it at Home Depot but it wasn't
the size that fits my heater , I basically need a good filter machine but
nothing helps , although I can see how it collects the dirt so I know it
could be worse. I know millions don't use one and millions are starting to
get educated. 3m sales have gone thru the roof with global warming
forecasts.
k8vf-Mark - 04 Dec 2006 23:13 GMT
> [IMG]http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q141/stevephotobucket/IMG_0118.jpg[/IMG]
>
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> school. Why one in five kids in some areas of ne are needing asthma meds.
> Here is your proof.

Are you using a high(merv 11) filter to assist you?
mcs - 05 Dec 2006 17:50 GMT
the dirty filter I think is a cheaper grade ( 8 or 9) also from 3m.
Sometimes I get a flanders. In the photo is a clean high grade 12 filtrete
filter. Sometimes just changing the cheaper one faster will be better then
just using the more expensive grade 12 filtrete. The bottom line on moderate
or worse days the pollution still directly affects my breathing. I have yet
to find anything that takes the particulates out. As you can see the amount
of pollution that circulates around the house is allot for 27days worth.I
see I have gotten more reaction about this then anything else I have
written. Sadly the links I left about the damages are even more cause for
concern then the photo. I don't make any certain claims about what this
pollution does to one over a lifetime, I let the viewer imagine.

>> [IMG]http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q141/stevephotobucket/IMG_0118.jpg[/IMG]
>>
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>
> Are you using a high(merv 11) filter to assist you?
runcyclexcski@yahoo.com - 05 Dec 2006 20:05 GMT
see I have gotten more reaction about this then anything else I have
written

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