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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / November 2006conjestion and mucus after drinking plain water
I've figured out that, in my case, drinking plain water triggers excessive mucus accumulation and leads to chest conjestion. The phlegm appears within seconds after the first sip of water. Sorry, I understand that I've been asking too many questions here recently, but... This is just one piece of the puzzle, more or less defined ("water" is better defined than "meal"), that I am trying to understand. How can, in scientific, or semi-scientific terms, a sip of water make one sick? Everybody recommends drinking water for asthma, to make the mucus move, from quack doctors to MD. In my case, it takes 2 hrs after drinking water to recover after drowning in my own fluids. This makes me avoid fluid intakes. So, I guess, the mucus does get moved, but not exactly the right way. What's the current view on this? I've read that, for GERD, water should be BETTER, since it dilutes the acid and increases the pH. If it's not GERD, then, what? > I've figured out that, in my case, drinking plain water triggers > excessive mucus accumulation and leads to chest conjestion. The phlegm [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > be BETTER, since it dilutes the acid and increases the pH. If it's not > GERD, then, what? I think that the vast majority of what you will read is hooey. There seems to be a certain continfent out there that loves to advise water use without any evidence. I doubt it has much effect on secretions. Evewn if it does there has been no clear benefit from thinning them by other means. The whole drink 8 8 oz glasses a day thing is based on a misunderstanding of basic metabolism and misapplication of principles of IV hydration. The idea that dilute urine is somehow easier on the kidneys than making concentrated urine (i.e. urine with some color) - barring overt dehydration - is wrong and based on a misunderstanding of how the kidneys work. I can think of ways that water would be bad for GERD as well as good. The dilution of acid is likely to be minimal (remember pH is a log scale - you will need to dilute 10 times to change the pH by one point) and brief (the water leaves the stomach quickly). However, the increased volume and decreased viscosity of the stomach contents will make them more likely to be pushed back up into the espophagus.  Signature00doc being hydrated is definitely good for my exercise routine (2-4 hrs 5 days a week). that's why avoiding fluids in my case is counter-productive. the argument about the pH scale makes sense, I should've realized that. I am surprised that the response is so fast - several seconds for water provoking GERD, acid going into esphagus, getting sucked into airways, airways secreting more mucus, mucus getting into the throat. can I tell from the mucus where it comes from? (e.g. if I look at it under a microscope, can I tell if it comes from the lungs or the sinuses?) However, the increased volume and > decreased viscosity of the stomach contents will make them more likely to be > pushed back up into the espophagus. 00doc, does this suggest that consuming "slimy" fluids should be better for GERD that plain water, and, as a result, should be better asthma? I remember reading that "slimy" stuff is actually worse (the source was not scientific). Is the water very cold? cold liquids trigger my asthma, especially in the winter. > I've figured out that, in my case, drinking plain water triggers > excessive mucus accumulation and leads to chest conjestion. The phlegm [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > be BETTER, since it dilutes the acid and increases the pH. If it's not > GERD, then, what? > Is the water very cold? cold liquids trigger my asthma, especially in the > winter. Drinking "room temperature" water triggers the mucus, too. I am not convinced that the mucus production and brochial constriction (chest tightness) are the same thing. The mucus is often the only symptom I have. SO, I am still not convinced that mucus production, w/o chest tightness, and w/o a change in the peak flow, is asthma. |
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