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Can QVAR be taken with Flovent? Also qvar Dosage?

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k8vf-Mark - 27 Oct 2006 22:43 GMT
Is there any clinical reason QVAR cannot be taken with Flovent?
Both are steroids, of course.

I just got a prescription of qvar and Pharmacist wrote "no flovent" on
the label.

I haven't see that  written anywhere.

I had taken flovent in reduced dosage from optimal while trying other
meds to combat asthma and still have a semi normal voice. Full dosage
of flovent had my throat swelled up and raw as a beet!

ALSO, if 220mg flovent twice a day is optimal for me, what would
approximate QVAR dosage be?
Can anyone say?  Docs started me at 40 mg twice a day, seems very low
from what I read online.

Thanks in advance for any insight.

Mark
00doc - 28 Oct 2006 15:02 GMT
> Is there any clinical reason QVAR cannot be taken with Flovent?
> Both are steroids, of course.

Why would you want to?

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k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 15:34 GMT
> > Is there any clinical reason QVAR cannot be taken with Flovent?
> > Both are steroids, of course.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> --
> 00doc

Full optimal dosage flovent makes throat raw, painful.

Is it feasable to take less than optimal flovent  dosage and supplement
with another less effective steroid?
Is there a clinical reason it cannot be done? Interaction, etc?

I am not doing it, but nothing else seems to be doing the job at this
time without causing raw throat, or fungus. Hence an investigation into
a 'way around' the problem.

Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),
Advair(thrush), Flovent(raw throat), now am on Qvar(just began 4 days
ago).

I wondered why the Pharmacist wrote that, and if was to prevent
overdosage by the uninitiated or if there was some interaction which I
can find no info about.

Thanks for all input.
Ted Edwards - 28 Oct 2006 18:25 GMT
> Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),

For how long did you use Pulmicort?  It takes at least a few weeks
before the full effect appears.

Ted
k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> > Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),
>
> For how long did you use Pulmicort?  It takes at least a few weeks
> before the full effect appears.
>
> Ted

I quit Asmanex and switched to Pulmicort(which gave me no side effects
at all).

Within 2 weeks my lungs were filling up and had troubles breathing. (ex
ray confirmed)

Seemed like Pulmicort was not doing much at 200mcg twice daily. (max
dose, apparently)

I really wanted the Pulmicort to work as it did not affect my voice,
but i got worse by the day.
k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> > Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),
>
> For how long did you use Pulmicort?  It takes at least a few weeks
> before the full effect appears.
>
> Ted

I quit Asmanex and switched to Pulmicort(which gave me no side effects
at all).

Within 2 weeks my lungs were filling up and had troubles breathing. (ex
ray confirmed)

Seemed like Pulmicort was not doing much at 200mcg twice daily. (max
dose, apparently)

I really wanted the Pulmicort to work as it did not affect my voice,
but i got worse by the day.
k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> > Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),
>
> For how long did you use Pulmicort?  It takes at least a few weeks
> before the full effect appears.
>
> Ted

I quit Asmanex and switched to Pulmicort(which gave me no side effects
at all).

Within 2 weeks my lungs were filling up and had troubles breathing. (ex
ray confirmed)

Seemed like Pulmicort was not doing much at 200mcg twice daily. (max
dose, apparently)

I really wanted the Pulmicort to work as it did not affect my voice,
but i got worse by the day.
k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> > Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),
>
> For how long did you use Pulmicort?  It takes at least a few weeks
> before the full effect appears.
>
> Ted

I quit Asmanex and switched to Pulmicort(which gave me no side effects
at all).

Within 2 weeks my lungs were filling up and had troubles breathing. (ex
ray confirmed)

Seemed like Pulmicort was not doing much at 200mcg twice daily. (max
dose, apparently)

I really wanted the Pulmicort to work as it did not affect my voice,
but i got worse by the day.
k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> > Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),
>
> For how long did you use Pulmicort?  It takes at least a few weeks
> before the full effect appears.
>
> Ted

I quit Asmanex and switched to Pulmicort(which gave me no side effects
at all).

Within 2 weeks my lungs were filling up and had troubles breathing. (ex
ray confirmed)

Seemed like Pulmicort was not doing much at 200mcg twice daily. (max
dose, apparently)

I really wanted the Pulmicort to work as it did not affect my voice,
but i got worse by the day.
k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> > Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),
>
> For how long did you use Pulmicort?  It takes at least a few weeks
> before the full effect appears.
>
> Ted

I quit Asmanex and switched to Pulmicort(which gave me no side effects
at all).

Within 2 weeks my lungs were filling up and had troubles breathing. (ex
ray confirmed)

Seemed like Pulmicort was not doing much at 200mcg twice daily. (max
dose, apparently)

I really wanted the Pulmicort to work as it did not affect my voice,
but i got worse by the day.
k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> > Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),
>
> For how long did you use Pulmicort?  It takes at least a few weeks
> before the full effect appears.
>
> Ted

I quit Asmanex and switched to Pulmicort(which gave me no side effects
at all).

Within 2 weeks my lungs were filling up and had troubles breathing. (ex
ray confirmed)

Seemed like Pulmicort was not doing much at 200mcg twice daily. (max
dose, apparently)

I really wanted the Pulmicort to work as it did not affect my voice,
but i got worse by the day.
k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> > Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),
>
> For how long did you use Pulmicort?  It takes at least a few weeks
> before the full effect appears.
>
> Ted

I quit Asmanex and switched to Pulmicort(which gave me no side effects
at all).

Within 2 weeks my lungs were filling up and had troubles breathing. (ex
ray confirmed)

Seemed like Pulmicort was not doing much at 200mcg twice daily. (max
dose, apparently)

I really wanted the Pulmicort to work as it did not affect my voice,
but i got worse by the day.
k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> > Tried Asmanex(only so so), Pulmicort(didn't work at all),
>
> For how long did you use Pulmicort?  It takes at least a few weeks
> before the full effect appears.
>
> Ted

I quit Asmanex and switched to Pulmicort(which gave me no side effects
at all).

Within 2 weeks my lungs were filling up and had troubles breathing. (ex
ray confirmed)

Seemed like Pulmicort was not doing much at 200mcg twice daily. (max
dose, apparently)

I really wanted the Pulmicort to work as it did not affect my voice,
but i got worse by the day.
00doc - 28 Oct 2006 18:55 GMT
>> > Is there any clinical reason QVAR cannot be taken with Flovent?
>> > Both are steroids, of course.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> with another less effective steroid?
> Is there a clinical reason it cannot be done? Interaction, etc?

No - interactions. I think the pharmacist was just letting you know that
usually the Qvar would be to replace the Flovent, not in addition to it.

Why not just give the Qvar a try (including adequate time and titration up)?

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k8vf-Mark - 28 Oct 2006 19:10 GMT
> Why not just give the Qvar a try (including adequate time and titration up)?
>
> --
> 00doc

Yes, that was the plan, but expecting the worse, which seems to be the
norm lately with this situation.

If you are on a steroid and switch, is it like "starting over from
scratch"? Or does the new steroid basically take over and your relief
is continued?

This answer would probably help others, too.

Thanks.
00doc - 28 Oct 2006 22:09 GMT
>> Why not just give the Qvar a try (including adequate time and titration
>> up)?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> This answer would probably help others, too.

No, it shouldn't be like starting over. They are all binding tot he same
receptors.

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k8vf-Mark - 29 Oct 2006 05:13 GMT
> >> Why not just give the Qvar a try (including adequate time and titration
> >> up)?
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> --
> 00doc

Thank you VERY much. This info is good to know and MUCH appreciated.

Is 80 mcg bid of qvar about the same as 220 flovent bid?

The way I read it, the equal dose is more like 320, or so mcg daiily
dose.

Mark
 
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