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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / July 2003Hmmmm need to pick brains on this
Hi, Is there a condition that would stop your body from making it's on corticosteroids? And if there was would it cause an asthma flair up? As in things I wasn't allergic to in the past, now trigger asthma attacks? Something I've thinking about for a few days now Lynn  Signaturehttp://lynn.feral07.users.btopenworld.com/rats/Page_1x.html >Hi, > >Is there a condition that would stop your body from making it's on >corticosteroids? And if there was would it cause an asthma flair up? As in >things I wasn't allergic to in the past, now trigger asthma attacks? Most likely you have become allergic to something new. It's a terrible responsibility - but somebody has to be the Americans. There actually is a disease related to hypoadrenalism, it's a called Addison's disease. You can read more about it here http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/endo/pubs/addison/addison.htm . Addsion's is only one a many autoimmune related endocrine disorders. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Lynn I was going to say the same thing. I was recently diagnosed with adrenal gland deficiency and low thyroid, which is also Addison's disease. My doctor used that terminology for the first time today, so I was going to read up on it. The link you suggested is very good. All my symptoms are listed on there as well as treatment. I'm on Cortef 20mg in the morning and 10mg at 2pm. I was told that if I have a fever or get sick to increase to 30mg TID for 2 days then 20MG TID for 2 days then return to normal dosage. I had the ACTH test and pre was 12 while post was only 16. Normal is 18. I was told that at my next appointment, August 7th, they will be prescribing an injectable hormone that I will have to take daily, as well as mega boost dosages when I'm sick to hopefully avoid having to go in the hospital. I also have low thyroid and that is being looked at for course of treatment. Jennifer > There actually is a disease related to hypoadrenalism, it's a called > Addison's disease. You can read more about it here [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Lynn >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Lynn Hi Lynn Let me give you the hyperventilation theory perspective. Yes, chronic hyperventilation which results either from some chronic (long term) stress or simply 1st world life style (eating too much, exercising too little) or more often a combination of these, can cause disturbances to every body part, every organ and every system, including the hormonal system. Hyperventilation increases sympathetic tone, meanig it increases your tendency towards the fight and flight response making you more anxious, producing palpitations, digestive problems, increasing blood sugar among many more. My understanding is that this increased sympathetic tone in which much demand is made on the adrenal glands (the stress hormone releasing glands) can lead to adrenal fatigue with major disturbances to normal Cortisol production. If you think about it, Adrenaline itself is supposed to be released in stressful situations. This helps open up the airways and counters the bronchospasm that is a natural result of CO2 shortage. However, in a fatigued adrenal gland you don't expect full Adrenaline production and so we have to give it artificially to asthmatics by way of Ventolin type inhalers. The biochemical disturbance can also cause major disruptions to the immune system. Your immune system is a finely tuned biochemical warfare system that needs to be able to recognize genuine pathogens and not fuss too much over relatively harmless things like pollens and stuff we are commonly allergic to. Also, it needs to be able to pick up on cancer cells and should avoid destroying the body's own cells as in arthritis and diabetes. Hence, chronic stress leads to chronic hyperventilation which can produce these major immunological problems for the body. The result is that after chronic stress you can develop asthma, both the bronchospasm and inflammatory component, arthritis, poor immune response to genuine pathogens like flu viruses. Also it explains the observation that cancer is often stress related. Peter Kolb BSc(Eng), MSc(Med) Biomedical Engineer pkolb@wt.com.au ___________________________________________________ Free information provided by grateful ex-asthmatics http://www.wt.com.au/~pkolb/buteyko.htm __________________________________________________ >>Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Let me give you the hyperventilation theory perspective. Translation: "Let me try to scam you." There is no such thing as 'chronic hyperventilation.' It's a terrible responsibility - but somebody has to be the Americans. >>Let me give you the hyperventilation theory perspective. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >There is no such thing as 'chronic hyperventilation.' It occurs to me that the real problem here is semantics. What we need to do is arrive at a suitable definition for this particular version of chronic hyperventilation syndrome. First, we could identify this specific theory by naming it B*t*y*o, or Btyo chronic hyperventilation syndrome, with Mr. Kolb as its major proponent. Next, we need to more accurately define the syndrome itself. Due to the abnormally high levels of bozone, which is the substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating, we then observe the dopeler effect . This, of course, is the tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter to you when they come at you quickly. And so, as the chronic ventilation of ideas, differences and requests for double-blind research continue, one observes Mr. Kolb exhibitiing great glibido, which translates as all ventilation and no action. Peter, why don't you just say, "We're not there yet." There's nothing wrong with admitting that you don't know. It can be a refreshing experience. Ahhhh....... > It occurs to me that the real problem here is semantics..... > bozone..... > dopeler effect..... > great glibido...... ROFLMAO! Asthma unfortunately makes sufferers particularly vulnerable to quackery, because so many substances and techniques may have a temporary relieving effect. Also, many feel frustrated with accepted medical treatments. So maybe it is good to have a Net encounter with a quack such as Peter Kolb (see below) posting here. The following should be noted. He is not trained as a physician or as a practitioner in the anti-hyperventilation therapy he is touting. He has no professional qualifications in the field he is attempting to practice in. In the hospital where he works he has nothing to do with therapies of any kind, just with the development of mechanisms. He claims that a simple principle (breathing so as to have more carbon dioxide in the body) could cure a whole host of illnesses. If challenged he just repeats his mistaken principles ad nauseam without being able to discusses them. He cannot explain the rationale. Typically if asked about his anti-hyperventilation therapy for diabetics (who often hyperventilate) he will say that they should go to Russia where there are the better experts who know how to reverse the disease by breathing. In the limited fields where hyperventilation is recognized as a cause of disease (panic attacks) or as a disease in itself, the breath holding exercises recommended by Kolb are not used by regular docs or properly qualified breath therapist as a protocol. They are just too simplistic and grueling for practical use. They bewilder patients. So beware of his glib, pretentious imitations of genuine medical advice. > >Hi, > > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > __________________________________________________ |
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