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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / September 2006Bush and Johson committing Terrorism to US citizens
yes, but do you realize one in five kids in NE states has asthma in some places? They didn't have anything wrong with em.... the trees are dying here, in droves, I automatically can't breath in moderate particulates, and our news says polluted days are beautiful and their commericals are paid for by 34 different companies that tout drugs to treat you after they poison you. If you think the goal for people to have jobs at poisoning the planet and expense is business as it should be, better guess again or volunteer to take our place while we live in Hawaii or at the ranch far away from motorists and crime... The stats say pollution kills and I say its underreported of the dangers. When I first started people said I was crazy , global warming isn't true. Guess what , if people knew that the biggest single reason for illness when everything else like diet and addictions were the same is pollution, people might be singing a different tune. >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060921/hl_hsn/pollutedairmightincreasestrokerisk >> some people think more people are being murdered by polluters then >> murder, 9/11 and Iraq combined. Not only do longevity studies prove when >> every thing else is the same , like diet and addiction levels, pollution >> levels and amount of days an areas t=that gets moderate or worse >> particulates is >> the defining factor in contributing to lower longevity, >> but many studies have showed cause and effect.When everything is similar >> such as >> diet and addiction, the defining factor for longevity seems to be how >> close >> people live to pollutants and how often. The associations between >> pollution >> and ill health are out there, but our news and politicians don't care >> except >> for Arnold and NY. mayor. More studies can be done and I could volunteer >> many types and how they can be done but I know what the result would >> show, the oil and energy crew don't want to know the truth . I am being >> charged up to 59 dollars a month for the right to use gas even if I don't >> use it. Can you imagine what the conservatives would be screaming if >> someone charged them 59 dollars a month for something they don't use? >> Only in America can energy get special treatment, poison you, made to pay >> more for it then anything else combined and after they poison you, they >> cover it up and you can't sue em... Oil and old energy people and Johnson >> from EPA >> and Republicans are in power with a >> mandate knowing people cant seem to sue them and those people say >> pollution and >> its negative effects is not proven to prop up their energy supporters who >> gain billions, at your healths and families expense and this is patronage >> and favoritism and wait, its at your >> healths expense. This is MURDER . Where is expectation of protection >> from the epa who >> disagrees with Johnson on this issue , or isn't govt is here to protect >> citizens >> equally/ Not in Bushs or Johnsons or Republicans MURDER the people who >> don't know world.This is domestic terrorism. Don't think so try breathing >> this for fifty years. look at my filters for one month, get into this >> area of moderate pollution for 100 plus days a year and see how it takes >> its tolls . Do a study. see how those closest to the pollution dies >> almost 15 years sooner and those that don't have they tested their >> overall health compared to places with little or no pollution? I will >> tell you the results. there are huge differences in attitudes, in health >> , in optimism and even crime sometimes. all because of pollution levels. >> If republicans are poisoning people and not doing anything about it, this >> is murder... > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us/22soot.html >> There are many other studies to show cause and effect and more could >> be had but you can't sue the bastards so don't expect to see the >> studies.. >> This is a democracy? Poor being >> poisoned, rich many living 14 years longer then others cause they are >> rich >> and not near the pollution, the rest near polluters deal with it. Pay for >> your lost health and medication so polluters make billions.Its not like >> we >> can't do more and we will leave ourselves vulnerable. All we are asking >> for >> is making changes that are available today faster! >> >> Just moderate amounts of this poison is killing and hurting >> americans >> and your families.... right now and this much I promise is true. The >> latest longevity study shows that some people are living up to 14 years >> longer and often the best longevity is in rich places in clean air. Clean >> and dirty air in the longevity study recently completed. when every other >> factor such as diet is equal , the defining quality that adds or >> subtracts >> years is the POLLUTION levels. so we are poisoning our youth, we are >> poisoning people and refusing to look at the obvious .. Four years later >> after complaining nothing is done...Republicans and Johnson would kill >> everyone of you if they could . They are lousy Americans..and in my eye >> murderers.. >> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/21/AR2006092101616.html > > I almost took a double take when I read this realizing they were not going > to do anything about particulate pollution. Un f.cking believable. This is > the exact ingredient that is poisoning me and making my body shut down. > Not > cig. smoke. not ozone but this! This is the same ingredient when measured > and everything else is similar that is killing people. MUrderers.. > am going to piece together some links that show the republicans, and bush > and Johnson don't care about Americans. in the article link I gave below > the > epa assistant head said we tried to reach a sweet point. If the sweet > point > of particulates is where it is now. the same damage will occur. I didn't > know what hit me with my asthma till I was able to pinpoint the damaging > factor: particulates. Its so damaging that even at so called moderate > levels > they predicts MILLIONS of people will be made to stay inside or limit > their > activity or made sick and we are warned of that. so thats the Fking SWEET > spot? That level is not going to be changed? Fking murderers.often by > income > too. That > together with many many more direct tests I proposed they could make but > don't .if they wanted to would show > that particulates and pollution is killing and damaging the health of many > americans. This is not acceptable and I have been saying this and yelling > about this before any tests and before global warming debate. I am trying > despertate to save people and this planet and the Republicans are trying > to > make themselves rich at our expense. even if default and sweet spot to > them > is a killing many people. In addition bush is trying to shave spending > for > epa. > Do you think I care about Iraq while I have trouble breathing for > something I don't have the option of changing so eaisly.. while the rich > don't have to get this? Many people with onset asthma simply are not > informed that it might be their areas pollution levels that are cutting > their life short and not anything wrong with them. Why on Gods Earth isn't > levels mandated at low just in case moderate is killing people. We are the > richest people on earth, why must we poison people too to help Bush and > Johson get more money? Murderers > yes, but do you realize one in five kids in NE states has asthma in some > places? They didn't have anything wrong with em.... the trees are dying [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > people > might be singing a different tune. Do you have anything new to report? You may have mentioned this before. more links added, since last month. Go to environment groups to see more links. why do I say or blame Bush and Johnson?> Because we have the money , resolve and resources to changes things sooner not in 2020. We have people in the US who has seen and studied the damages and have college degrees and realizes of the dangers and these two people have been told of dangers but instead of helping they do the opposite and sides with sweet points ? Sweet points already producing warnings for many people to limit activity so how is this a sweet point? . Why not default and side with safety? We have the technology, we have the studies and when we have that and not much is done, it does seem extremely unfair with govt not protecting everyone equally. I find it a hard reach to worry about spinanch and not worry about the cancers and heart disease and respiratory illness caused by pollution , and some more then others. "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:o0sSg.10202$KK.600@trnddc08... > Say what you will with the Presidents last speech about terrorism which to > me was pretty good , but I find it difficult to care about anything when I [quoted text clipped - 319 lines] >> MURDERERS > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/21/AR2006092101616.html >> yes, but do you realize one in five kids in NE states has asthma in some >> places? They didn't have anything wrong with em.... the trees are dying [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Do you have anything new to report? You may have mentioned this before. >> yes, but do you realize one in five kids in NE states has >> asthma in some [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Do you have anything new to report? You may have mentioned > this before. A, you bother reading her rants? She's one of the posters I bypass. Saves so much time. >>> yes, but do you realize one in five kids in NE states has asthma in some >>> places? They didn't have anything wrong with em.... the trees are dying [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > A, you bother reading her rants? She's one of the posters I bypass. > Saves so much time. which parts do you disagree with exactly? Since you don't read em . Didn't we have this argument before? lol >>>> yes, but do you realize one in five kids in NE states has asthma in >>>> some [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> A, you bother reading her rants? She's one of the posters I bypass. >> Saves so much time. Nah, they're all the same. This is the one case where a sweeping generality is appropriate--a response in kind. > which parts do you disagree with exactly? Since you don't read em . Didn't > we have this argument before? lol I think that she is getting at: If you've read one of your diatribes, you've read them all. And that in your case, lol stands for "Lack of Lucidity" >>>>> yes, but do you realize one in five kids in NE states has asthma in >>>>> some [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > you've read them all. And that in your case, lol stands for "Lack of > Lucidity" hey, your allowed to pick from the numerous contributions here and claim your not reading mine again. Or agree with the person who isn't reading mine again. > >>> A, you bother reading her rants? She's one of the posters I bypass. > >>> Saves so much time. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > your not reading mine again. Or agree with the person who isn't reading mine > again. As if to put an exclamation point on my "lucidity" comment... >> >>> A, you bother reading her rants? She's one of the posters I bypass. >> >>> Saves so much time. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > As if to put an exclamation point on my "lucidity" comment... I'm starting to believe that in this case, lol is more an acronym for "low on lumens..." there is a giant support for medications (lets say over 1 billion in medication to treat asthma ) here instead of people moving to clean air state. Too much information about the dangers of air pollution get some people unsettled, especially if they claim they don't read my posts.I wonder if drug companies or Dr. visists have something to do with it. Personal attacks without referring to a idea is the same lame brain tactics used to counter the people who oppose the status quo in the middle east or global warming debate. But in case this gets the message out there here is the stuff that makes you not read my posts ; lol > Mass poisoning of people makes 9/11 look like a picnic and Bush is cause > of it. We can do moe now, we don't have to pretend we don't know of the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > negatively and the best and brightest in news and politicians ignore it. > They rather talk about Iraq.or ten deaths from spinanch why do I say or blame Bush and Johnson?> Because we have the money , resolve and resources to changes things sooner not in 2020. We have people in the US who has seen and studied the damages and have college degrees and realizes of the dangers and these two people have been told of dangers but instead of helping they do the opposite and sides with sweet points and the familiar more studies needed ? Its one thing to not know, its another to poison people who thru no fault of their own is going to suffer the consequences from Bush and Johnsons actions . Johnson of epa claims he needs to adjust pollution to sweet points. But his idea of sweet point is completely against the advice of most of the people who work on this issue all day and night. that work under him. Seems strange that a director appointed by Bush would default at a point that many say will kill and harm millions of people. Sweet points already producing warnings for many people to limit activity on the epas website so how is this a sweet point? and thats the least of the damage if the studies were done , trust me.. Why not default and side with safety? We have the technology, we have the studies and when we have that and not much is done, it does seem extremely unfair with govt not protecting everyone equally. I find it a hard reach to worry about spinanch and not worry about the cancers and heart disease and respiratory illness caused by pollution , > This poisoning makes Iraq and 9/11 look like a picnic and its because of > the oil, and energy lobby and car companies. They all are going about [quoted text clipped - 276 lines] >> gotten cancer simply because her little body could not have absorbed the >> toxins around her. >>> >>> A, you bother reading her rants? She's one of the posters I bypass. >>> >>> Saves so much time. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > I'm starting to believe that in this case, lol is more an acronym for "low > on lumens..." > there is a giant support for medications (lets say over 1 billion in > medication to treat asthma ) here instead of people moving to clean air > state. Through the 60's to the 80's people were moving to the southwest states. They were said to be better for asthmatics. Today those states are now said to be horrible for asthmatics. People can't keep moving around chasing the ideal place that keeps changing itself. >> there is a giant support for medications (lets say over 1 billion in >> medication to treat asthma ) here instead of people moving to clean air [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > said to be horrible for asthmatics. People can't keep moving around > chasing the ideal place that keeps changing itself. Well Miles, Can't and Won't are two different issues but you make a good point. I am in same boat, its extremely difficult to move especially to the larger places with good air because of high rents and mortgage. When I first wrote about this I feared I was sabotaging my own ability to find affordable housing, but alas I live for a bigger issues then myself. I hope I have helped other people monitor pollution or think of this when they get asthma or other conditions. Incidentally any area might ultimately change in air rating based on the current research and amount of traffic, but some areas are blessed because of geography and no matter what happens, will always be good. I am not sure many would want to live in some of these place but don't say never. The southwest has seen a different definition of pollution rise in past ten years allot of due to dry conditon and stagnant air which contributes to blowing dust particuates but I think overall better then where I am in NE. >>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060921/hl_hsn/pollutedairmightincreasestrokerisk http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us/22soot.html |
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