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Pollution is the single biggest reason for many

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mcs - 07 Sep 2006 05:39 GMT
peoples lost health in America Today or close. Whether I or anyone can prove
that right now in time is not important. I know what I am saying is to be
proven one day.  urge lawyers to get together on this and sue the
polluterss. I suffer
adversely and I am sure others directly from the effects of policies that
enable   those who in  industry pollute our health and lives. Even people
like Mr Chainey and especially those in cities with high particulate counts.
will suffer and will have suffered more because of things they could nto
control : the pumping of poisons into their environment. I am saying that
together with diet there is nothing stronger that is provable that
negatively affects a persons or families health. I think its totally
incredible that kids have to breathe this toxic poisoning day in and out
without AT LEAST telling families of the consequences  and so I guess its up
to me to prod lawyers into thinking the damages are real. Not only is the
damages real I think there are few things more emphatic and preventable in
peoples lives  for their lost health then controlling the air pollution in
peoples lives. What I have seen and saw is beyond words. What policies
allows poisoning people and killing people to make profits when so much more
could have been done. I have been pleading for people to listen that TV NEWS
don't always dictate the norms or the reasons for everything that happens.
This issue proves it. They would rather tell you about the pills you need
for 23 different allergies and asthma meds then the reasons you need these
to begin with which I attest are preventable! Yes millions of people don't
have to get cancer and lung damage if only they were told of the overall
consequences.!!!!!!  the case is complex and huge but the consquences and
result could help
decipher the pain from illness to those that suffere from pollution. This is
the single or one of the largest reasons for lost health I believe in
America today and I honestly to God think it can be proven. If you are a
lawyer and you want to gather the best staticians in the world and look at
my facts and read all the internet associations where people have little to
gain to tell of the consequences of pollution , then I am saying the job to
prove dire consequences from pollution compared to those that don't have it
is out there. I need help just to live let alone trying to do this myself.
Whether we are or are not being more poisoned now then five years ago or is
more of the gases are being trapped or not , My contention is for many
people *but not all surely, they are directly in the line of fire from
polluters and THAT more then anything in their life will affect their health
and longevity . I need help to live and move if anyone wants to help please
email me. I have tried with every ounce of strength to suggest that this was
one of the biggest mass poisonings that was happening ain the US today and
it directly affects the quality of life for millions of people who live in
areas with high particulates and pollution and most don't know of it. This
is happening today and the consequences can be proven. I contended this
years ago and I contend this now. Lawyers. I think you can win this if you
try and if your able and legally able to collect from these people. Why our
govt or cia has allowed this poisoning is anyones guess. The news media in
the areas that are affected are actually compromising their own health , in
order to avoid telling themselves and their viewers of the results from
living in polluted areas like ours. Just because some place in  China is
worse don't mean the results shouldn't be made more public or the polluters
sued for trillions of dollars.  the people in Washington dc who has to
breathe the air often enough are also compromising their own health I have
absolutely no reason to make any of this up. I can show you proof that what
I say is correct by comparing two types of people , those that live and work
in polluted areas and those that live and work in clean areas. My
supposition is the differences in overall health is significant and
measurable if researchers for laywers tried to do it. I will end this with
saying the following. Millions of people will go to bed tonight thinking
their cancers or heart disease is from some mysterious slight of nature when
in fact it could have possibly been prevented and stopped . I now believe
that some leaders in society think civilization is often predicated on wars
and disease and control  until proven otherwise and not necessarily what is
good for people SO HELP ME GOD. You hear that polluters I am saying your
cars and smoke stacks are directly affecting the lost health of millions of
people around the world. I beg rich movie stars to help me with getting this
message out. I beg rich people who have succeeded in life to just open your
mind to what I am saying and help me get this mesage out there. You will be
doing a world of good . my email is nancysanchz@yahoo.com
miles - 07 Sep 2006 06:11 GMT
> I think its totally
> incredible that kids have to breathe this toxic poisoning day in and out
> without AT LEAST telling families of the consequences  and so I guess its up
> to me to prod lawyers into thinking the damages are real.

Pollution is real.  But who exactly do you wish to go after?  The number
1 air pollution source in the USA is automobiles.  You going to stop
driving?  It is consumers who will drive the change.  They are the ones
spending the money.
mcs - 07 Sep 2006 11:26 GMT
first off the general assumption that pollution is one of the biggest
preciptators for illness is not a known idea to most of America. If what I
just stated is true and I honestly to God think it is, that just living in
certain areas can affect lifespans and quality of health by decades even,
then just being and getting this known is important. Assuming though
pollution is causing pain and death and illness in amounts that are not yet
totally measureable, what can be done, and who to sue? First off , the
people and industries that pump out this poison en mass! I don't think the
correlations about how important this is to detriment of health is out there
so surely the limitations on all those that are polluting is not known. We
as a society don't want to be honest about telling people of the full
consequences of pollution, so how can anyone expect anyone to fully decipher
what amoont of pollution levels are safe? Having said that , the worse
polluters like coal companies and auto makers can and need to do more sooner
, not in 2020. The rich suffice to say who are in the know live on Cape cod
and in Hawaii and places in Colorado resorts and tropical islands, the rest
of us will be poisoned thru gov policies that must know of the consequences
but allows it anyway. The costs to make auto emissions safer and make
industry smoke stacks safer in my eyes is worth it when I now know the costs
of lost productivity and lost health from pollution. This is the most
defining issue affect health for billions of people today. What good is high
productivity in polluted areas if your going to die or lose your health much
sooner. What good is fighting crime if we don't care about the health for
kids who are being poisoned often in inner cities?  I have recently by the
way saw the results of tests from air filters in homes in high pariculate
places and MY GOD , this was like looking at films back in the 60s of the
consequences of smoking and taking a look at the lungs of smokers. I have
never ever expected what I was about to see.
>> I think its totally
>> incredible that kids have to breathe this toxic poisoning day in and out
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> driving?  It is consumers who will drive the change.  They are the ones
> spending the money.
mcs - 07 Sep 2006 13:52 GMT
Karen, we disagree with certain things but never to this extent. Trust me on
this one. I took it upon myself to just do one test. Gosh.. I can imagine
how smarter and brighter and people with more education could do even more
to prove these associations between ill health and pollution .But anyway , I
have the filter from home in Philadelphia and not near industry by the
way.This is from three weeks of normal pollution, mostly in the end of
August when pollution was not warning levels but high moderate levels. you
are free to do your own test. If you saw it you might take a different
account if this isn't harmful. I am more admant now then anything in my life
ever besides telling people to not smoke. I am totally convinced we are
being poisoned and I beg for people with more power to do more now, not
twenty years from now but now. Its probably too late for me because after
seeing what an average furnace filter collected in this area, mulitiplied
over years does and will have done, you will or anyone objective will get a
better idea what is happening. Now one doesn't have to be a brain scientist
to then do the same thing for a clean environment. Truthfully Karen I didn't
have to make this test and I can't guaranteee that a cleaner environment
would make for a cleaner filter but I will say this. if the Avervage person
in this area is breathing this amount of pollution. there is no way in Hell
, they wouldn't be affected in the negative. This is way more then you might
be prepared to see  and accumulated over three weeks. I want to move more
then ever but it may be too late for me. I urge youKaren cause you seem
bright to see what dark particulates might do to you over time and what you
might have enjoyed if your body didn't have to deal with this. For the more
sensitive out there I can now see how this causes cancers and diseases and
lung problems and I now see its almost impossible to believe that objective
people can rationalize this as unimportant or uneffectual in causing
disease. Thats all I can say. Anyone from news media is free to see what
this filter has collected in this area. To do the tests to show what people
who live in clean areas have in the way of benefits or health compared to
those that don't should not be hard to prove. I now more then ever in my
life see it. Every day in this poison is not like smoking one cig  a day its
like smoking many if this filter is any indication and this test was not
done in warning level pollution either!!!

> first off the general assumption that pollution is one of the biggest
> preciptators for illness is not a known idea to most of America. If what I
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>> driving?  It is consumers who will drive the change.  They are the ones
>> spending the money.
 
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