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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / August 2006Cured my mild asthma
Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this information for what it's worth. I just wanted you all to know what very simple remedy cured my mild asthma. I switched my diet to an all raw foods diet, which is effectively considered a "mucous-free" diet, and it is a diet which raw foodists believe is the natural diet of humans. Once I did this, not only did I lose 10 pounds in a month, but my asthma went away as well!! Again, I am NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma. So take this information for what it's worth. Anyways, it worked for me in my particular situation, and you can read more about raw foods diets at these links. There's lots more resources on the web as well, but these are some of my favorites: http://www.planetraw.com/living-food.php http://www.planetraw.com/raw-food.php http://www.living-foods.com/news/stripping.html http://www.larabar.com/ -- my favorite snack bars! Available at Trader Joe's & Whole Foods. http://www.rawfoods.com/ http://www.rawfoodsupport.com/ http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/directories/dir_rawrests.html http://www.living-foods.com/recipes/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060392622/sw0b-20 -- one of many raw food cookbooks Anyways, just wanted you guys to know how happy I am! Obviously, this dietary switch probably won't work for everybody, particularly if you have severe asthma. And I have to repeat again: I am NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma. p.s. Sticking to an all raw foods diet is HARD, and I often cheat on my own diet. When I do, I can literally feel the difference in my body. Hope this helps someone! See ya, Scott > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > See ya, > Scott Hey Scott, I find this rather laughable. I have been saying for a long time that many people have food sensitivities that they don't know about because their problem foods are "hidden" in processed foods. For example, I am sensitive to corn. I wouldn't react to corn until several days after I ate it, but corn is everywhere in processed foods. Read food labels. There is High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn Starch, and many other additives made from corn. Distilled vinegar can come from corn. MSG can also come from corn. There are over a hundred food additives that are made from corn. This is why I never realized their affect on my eczema, chronic fatigue, joint pain, and IBS. I helped a friend get rid of her psoriasis, by convincing her to eliminate dairy products from her diet. There are many naturopathic (www.naturopathic.org) and alternative doctors (www.acam.org) that are helping many people find their hidden food sensitivities. There are books at the public library that can show you to find your problem foods. Try "Dr. Braly's Food Allergy and Nutrition Revolution" or "Food Allergies and Food Intolerance" by Dr. Jonathan Brostoff. Hidden Food Sensitivities can trigger asthma, eczema, psoriasis, hayfever, ADD, migraines, and many other health problems. It doesn't apply to all people, but it does apply to most people. Many people eat some form of wheat, corn, dairy products, soy, eggs, etc. in their diet almost everyday. You are getting the wheat protein, corn protein, dairy protein, etc. in processed foods. If you gave up eating processed foods everyday, you probably eliminated the food(s) that were triggering your asthma, without realizing it. Research "Hidden Food Allergies". bosco62a > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > believe is the natural diet of humans. Once I did this, not only did I > lose 10 pounds in a month, but my asthma went away as well!! When you read the claims of the "raw food movement" just about all of them are either patently false or truths being taken out of context and missapplied. Out of the 23 bulleted factoids listed in your first link I would say that about three are clearly true and not misrepresented. For the most part it is a diet fad/gimmic to sell books. Not that it is bad for you. If you like raw foods go for it. It may be healthier for a lot of people becuase they will go with more fruits and veggies and less fried food and meat (as opposed to all the mumbo jumbo that they claim is the reason). However, in your case you might really be doing better on the diet but probably not for the reasons they state. Brad may actually be on the right track about why. It may not be an allergy per se but it is not unlikely that in your dietary shift you cut out something that was triggering your asthma. It would be interesting to test things one at a time and figure out what you can and cannot get away with eating.  Signature00doc > > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this > > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > -- > 00doc I can't understand why nobody will talk to the many qualified alternative doctors who treat people by adjusting their diet. Several highly educated mdoctors mhave written books mabout this. Try "Food Allergies and Food Intolerance" by Dr. Jonathan Brostoff. A woman that I know had some health problems and psoriasis. I found out that she had constant cravings for dairy products. I told her to stay off of it for a few months, and then eat it sparingly. Her health problem and her psoriasis disappeared. This made her feel beter than she had in years. Her doctors couldn't give her nearly as much health satisfaction as I did. I know many people who have told me the same thing. Food is usually at the scene of the crime. bosco62a >> > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this >> > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > I can't understand why nobody will talk to the many qualified >alternative doctors who treat people by adjusting their diet. "Qualified" alternative doctors? Now *that* is an oxymoron. Maybe they don't talk to them because there is no objective proof that they can help better than placebo. > Several >highly educated mdoctors mhave written books mabout this. Logical fallacy of appeal to authority. Just because someone is highly educated does not mean that they are right. >Try "Food >Allergies and Food Intolerance" by Dr. Jonathan Brostoff. A woman that >I know had some health problems and psoriasis. I found out that she had >constant cravings for dairy products. I told her to stay off of it for >a few months, and then eat it sparingly. Her health problem and her >psoriasis disappeared. Anecdotes are a dime a dozen. > This made her feel beter than she had in years. >Her doctors couldn't give her nearly as much health satisfaction as I >did. Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back. > I know many people who have told me the same thing. Food is >usually at the scene of the crime. So you say. RC > bosco62a >> Several >>highly educated mdoctors mhave written books mabout this. > > Logical fallacy of appeal to authority. Just because someone is highly > educated does not mean that they are right. ..... and books are what they write when they can't pass muster with peer review. Signature00doc > >> Several > >>highly educated mdoctors mhave written books mabout this. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > 00doc Why are there so many doctors successfully treating people by finding their problem foods? Why do I keep meeting people who say that they have treated themselves with this? Why do my critics refuse to seriously look into this like I told them to? bosco62a >> >> Several >> >>highly educated mdoctors mhave written books mabout this. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Why are there so many doctors successfully treating people by >finding their problem foods? There are? Do you know them personally? >Why do I keep meeting people who say that >they have treated themselves with this? I don't know. I have never met a person that said they treated themselves with this. We must run around with different company. > Why do my critics refuse to >seriously look into this like I told them to? If you think about it you likely will come up with the answer to that one. RC > bosco62a > Why are there so many doctors successfully treating people by > finding their problem foods? Why do I keep meeting people who say that > they have treated themselves with this? Why do my critics refuse to > seriously look into this like I told them to? > > bosco62a Not true. I had guttate P and used to hang out on the Psoriasis boards. There is no consensus on this issue. http://www.webmd.com/content/article/74/89269.htm http://www.psorsite.com/diet.html Joy > >> > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this > >> > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > > > bosco62a I checked the state licensing board for medicine. If a doctor graduates from a state medical school in the United States, I assume that he(she) is qualified. This doctor told me that you could have a booming business treating people for psoriasis by changing their diet. It doesn't work for 100% of people, but it works for most. I helped someone get over their psoriasis, by telling them to stop eating dairy products for awhile. I got rid of my eczema, hayfever, chronic fatigue, and joint pain by cutting out corn (High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn Starch, distilled vinegar, MSG, etc.) and dairy products. There are varying degrees of success by eliminating problem foods. bosco62a >> >> > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this >> >> > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >graduates from a state medical school in the United States, I assume >that he(she) is qualified. If the doctor graduated from an accredited medical school and has an MD degree then they are not alternative doctors. Alternative doctor designation implies that the doctor is not a licensed MD and is instead a naturopath, homeopath, chiropractor or some other alternative doctor. > This doctor told me that you could have a >booming business treating people for psoriasis by changing their diet. Your doctor told you that I could have a booming business by treating people for psoriasis by changing their diet? Did this diet require the purchase of supplements or foods? Was this an MD doctor graduating from accredited medical school? If so what spaciality was he/she? >It doesn't work for 100% of people, but it works for most. Most? Well if it works for most then studies must have been published in peer review journals. Could you post links to any of these studies. If all you have is anecdote then that is not convincing evidence. > I helped >someone get over their psoriasis, by telling them to stop eating dairy >products for awhile. Anecdotal. I cannot find a single article in a peer reviewed literature that confirms what you are claiming. Sorry if I have my doubts about your story. > I got rid of my eczema, hayfever, chronic fatigue, >and joint pain by cutting out corn (High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn >Starch, distilled vinegar, MSG, etc.) and dairy products. There are >varying degrees of success by eliminating problem foods. Varying degrees. You said most people suffering from psoriasis can cure it by diet. RC > bosco62a > >> >> > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this > >> >> > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > > > > bosco62a I don't know where it says that all medical school graduates have to proactice the same type of medicine. My doctor is a family doctor. I checked the state licensing board. He does acupuncture, chelation therapy, and some other controversial practices. I don't really get into some of the things that he does, but he has helped me very much with food sensitivities. Medical schools get much of their funding from the pharmaceutical industry. It does not surprise me that they are reluctant to do research on delayed food sensitivities. Nobody wants to make this subject too public. There is a danger that too many people won't need drugs to treat their health problems. Why don't you look up an MD at www.acam.org and talk to them for a few minutes? bosco62a >> >> >> > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this >> >> >> > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 112 lines] > I don't know where it says that all medical school graduates have >to proactice the same type of medicine. You said that your doctor was an "alternative" doctor. That implies that the doctor did not go to an accredited medical school. If your doctor is a full fledged MD but chooses to practice non-evidence based medicine that is a different thing entirely. > My doctor is a family doctor. Where did he go to medical school? > I >checked the state licensing board. He does acupuncture, chelation >therapy, and some other controversial practices. Chelation therapy is not controversial assuming of course that you are using it for ridding the body of heavy metals. There is no good evidence it works to removal arterial plaques for which some people use (misuse) it. > I don't really get >into some of the things that he does, but he has helped me very much >with food sensitivities. You obviously are a satisfied customer. > Medical schools get much of their funding from >the pharmaceutical industry. They do? Please post the evidence for this. What percentage of their funding comes from pharmaceutical industry? > It does not surprise me that they are >reluctant to do research on delayed food sensitivities. They do research on all kinds of stuff not related to pharmaceuticals. > Nobody wants to >make this subject too public. There is a danger that too many people >won't need drugs to treat their health problems. You sound like another whacko conspiracy theorist. > Why don't you look up >an MD at www.acam.org and talk to them for a few minutes? I went there and immediately saw that they advocate chelation therapy to remove arterial plaques. I would like to see peer review literature showing that this can be achieved as opposed to testimonials from satisfied customers. RC > bosco62a > >> >> >> > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this > >> >> >> > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 165 lines] > > > > bosco62a I get so sick and tired of people who won't get off their lazy behind. I keep telling people that there are several books about Hidden Food Sensitivities (allergies) at libraries and bookstores (written by doctors). Do they read any of them? No. Do they go to Amazon.com and read the reviews? No. Do they go to www.acam.org, find an alternative doctor, and check to make sure that they are members of a state medical board? No. They do nothing but criticize. If they called an alternative doctor and asked them about research on Hidden Food Sensitivities, I'm sure that they would give people the information that they needed. Few people are eager to spend millions of dollars on research that could cause the Pharmaceutical Industry (and the Processed Foods Industry) to lose billions of dollars. Mainstream medicine does not always put their medical techniques through objective analysis and review. If you read "Dr. Braly's Food Allergy and Nutrition Revolution", he points out which medical techniques are just blindly accepted. One of the reasons that there is alternative medicine is that there is a WHOLE LOT that nobody knows about the human body. That is why there is room for disagreement. When I told my coworker that giving up dairy products might help her psoriasis, I did not suggest that she buy anything. She just simply substituted other foods and got better. She got better than she ever imagined. Many people can knock out several health problems by eliminating their Hidden Food Allergens. People everywhere are saying this. Just look around the Internet. Everybody isn't lying about getting better. I never said that you had to buy anything. National Public Radio and USATODAY have discussed the economic relationship between medical schools and pharmaceutical companies. BTW, My alternative doctor graduated from a little known school called "Georgetown University School of Medicine". That is what the state medical board says anyway. They say that he hasn't had any disciplinary actions against him nor any malpractice problems. bosco62a >> >> >> >> > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this >> >> >> >> > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 170 lines] >Food Sensitivities (allergies) at libraries and bookstores (written by >doctors). So what. A PhD called Hulda Clark claims that she has the cure for ALL cancers and has written a book about it. Does this mean that she is right? She claims that *all* cancer is caused by a liver fluke. She is completely unable to support her claim by any credible evidence other than her say so. Anyone can write a book. Books don't mean squat. > Do they read any of them? No. Do they go to Amazon.com and >read the reviews? No. I prefer to see studies published in peer reviewed literature rather than read a book that is likely to be fiction. Please quote the studies that support your assertion. > Do they go to www.acam.org, find an alternative >doctor, and check to make sure that they are members of a state medical >board? No. Why should they go to a quack? > They do nothing but criticize. I am asking for proof in the form of published peer reviewed studies. I notice that instead of providing me with a single study that all you do is rant and rave. But don't feel bad. There is actually an MD (at least he claims he is one) in this newsgroup who claims that antibiotics are useful for asthmatics even without specific evidence of bacterial infection and yet cannot provide any peer reviewed literature with any credible double blind studies to support his claim. > If they called an alternative >doctor and asked them about research on Hidden Food Sensitivities, I'm >sure that they would give people the information that they needed. Don't be so sure. They would probably do a lot of hand waving like you do. > Few >people are eager to spend millions of dollars on research that could >cause the Pharmaceutical Industry (and the Processed Foods Industry) to >lose billions of dollars. More of the conspiracy theories. How do you explain that the NIH regularly conducts research on alternative methods? They just cannot study every crackpot theory that comes down the pike. > Mainstream medicine does not always put their medical techniques >through objective analysis and review. Nothing is 100% > If you read "Dr. Braly's Food >Allergy and Nutrition Revolution", he points out which medical >techniques are just blindly accepted. Maybe you can just give three medical techniques that are "blindly" accepted. > One of the reasons that there is >alternative medicine is that there is a WHOLE LOT that nobody knows >about the human body. That is why there is room for disagreement. There are many reasons for alternative medicine. Many people don't trust the establishment and prefer a method that they have more control over. Some people don't have the financial means to use conventional medicine and are forced to use alternative. Some people get suckered in by the thousands of quacks who are out there. > When I told my coworker that giving up dairy products might help >her psoriasis, I did not suggest that she buy anything. Never said you did. > She just simply >substituted other foods and got better. She got better than she ever >imagined. Anecdotes are a dime a dozen. Psoriasis is an intermittent disease with spontaneous exacerbations and remissions. > Many people can knock out several health problems by >eliminating their Hidden Food Allergens. So you say. > People everywhere are saying >this. So you say. >Just look around the Internet. I did. A lot of people are claiming that they were abducted by UFOs. I guess we need to believe them too. A lot of people swear by psychics. Does that mean they are right. I mean the "Psychic Friends Network" did very well. Does this mean that they are all wrong? > Everybody isn't lying about >getting better. No. But they may be mistaken about the reason that they feel better. You see correlation does not imply causation. > I never said that you had to buy anything. That is not true. You are asking that I buy your bill of goods. > National Public Radio and USATODAY have discussed the economic >relationship between medical schools and pharmaceutical companies. So. Lots of people discuss lots of things. Does this mean that they are correct? We have a tendency to believe those things that coincide most closely with our preconceived ideas or agenda. Is NPR or USA Today an authority on medical matters? > BTW, My alternative doctor graduated from a little known school >called "Georgetown University School of Medicine". That is what the >state medical board says anyway. They say that he hasn't had any >disciplinary actions against him nor any malpractice problems. What is your alternative doctors name? I wait to see you dodging revealing the name of this so called MD from Georgetown School of Medicine. RC I am going to help you out because I remember some of the past posts, The NIH discusses the subject. Aroberts posted this on the second page of this thread. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.asthma/browse_frm/thread/ad722dc348e7 2f0/2cc131bc6ceda9b8?lnk=gst&q=food+allergies+aroberts&rnum=7#2cc131bc6ceda9b8 http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.asthma/browse_frm/thread/84e2242cf9ae fb79/7a6fc90d90d44521?tvc=1&q=brad-chad#7a6fc90d90d44521 There are many more. > I am asking for proof in the form of published peer reviewed studies. > I notice that instead of providing me with a single study that all you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > yet cannot provide any peer reviewed literature with any credible > double blind studies to support his claim. I believe the studies you wish to see have been posted on the newsgroup through the years. I think you can find some of them in the research section of Asthmastory. If not, search google groups for this newsgroup. Cut --------------------------------------------- > > BTW, My alternative doctor graduated from a little known school > >called "Georgetown University School of Medicine". That is what the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > revealing the name of this so called MD from Georgetown School of > Medicine. Others have tried. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.asthma/browse_frm/thread/f99a5119ad53 800/177cd9056c681687?tvc=1&q=brad-chad#177cd9056c681687 > But don't feel bad. There is actually an MD (at least he claims he is > one) in this newsgroup who claims that antibiotics are useful for > asthmatics even without specific evidence of bacterial infection and > yet cannot provide any peer reviewed literature with any credible > double blind studies to support his claim. Are you stilll pissed off over the fact that I wouldn't do your homework for you after you refused to ask nicely? I can give you peer review literature. I just chose to vex you by chosing not to. It has been discussed on this group several time sin the past. You could google it if you really wanted to learn. If I recall correctly you were even given a link to a website that summarized much of it but apparently have not bothered to look. If you really are that determined not to know I am not going to waste my time fightling your determination to remain ignorant. Please don't confuse that with my not being willing or able to support my assertions. >> Few >>people are eager to spend millions of dollars on research that could [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > regularly conducts research on alternative methods? They just cannot > study every crackpot theory that comes down the pike. They also do research on diets such as the DASH diet, which has been shown to reverse atherosclerosis, and exercise. >> If you read "Dr. Braly's Food >>Allergy and Nutrition Revolution", he points out which medical >>techniques are just blindly accepted. > > Maybe you can just give three medical techniques that are "blindly" > accepted. Fetal monitoring during labor and delivery (which acutally has been shown to produce adverse outcomes). Chronic aspirin therapy to prevent vascular events. Pap smears and pelvic exams in women who have had a hysterectomy. Scoliosis screening in asymptomatic teens. An annual complete physical exam. >> One of the reasons that there is >>alternative medicine is that there is a WHOLE LOT that nobody knows [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > conventional medicine and are forced to use alternative. Some people > get suckered in by the thousands of quacks who are out there. All of the above is true. I think the main reason is that alternative medicine declares diagnoses and makes promises where conventional medicine admits it does not know. >> BTW, My alternative doctor graduated from a little known school >>called "Georgetown University School of Medicine". That is what the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > revealing the name of this so called MD from Georgetown School of > Medicine. I wouldn't be surprised if he is telling the truth. Sometimes smarter than average people get a false sense of security about their own intellectual prowess and decide they don't need to follow the same logical rules as the rest of us mere mortals. It is probably similar to the reasons that anesthesioloigsts have the highest rate of drug addiction amongst doctors. They think that superior knowledge protects them. Signature00dic >> But don't feel bad. There is actually an MD (at least he claims he is >> one) in this newsgroup who claims that antibiotics are useful for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Are you stilll pissed off over the fact that I wouldn't do your homework for >you after you refused to ask nicely? Projecting "doctor"? Seems like it is you who is pissed off at me for exposing you as a wannabe doctor. So tell us "doctor" what is your name and what are your credentials? I asked you before but you ignored my question. Wonder why that was? You see if you represent yourself as a doctor on a newsgroup and give medical advice you should give your credentials. But usenet is the wild wild west where anyone can claim anything and not have to prove it. >I can give you peer review literature. Sure you can. I would like to see a double blind placebo controlled study (replicated would be better) that demonstrates the efficacy of antibiotics in asthmatics. If you had such a study you would have posted it. Any bona fide physician would be more than willing to prove his claims. I only ask for a link to the best study that proves what you claim. It should take less time than it did to respond to this post. But you would rather "vex" me because I did not ask you "nicely". Do you treat your "patients" with such arrogance? > I just chose to vex you by chosing >not to. How very professional of you "doctor". > It has been discussed on this group several time sin the past. So what? > You >could google it if you really wanted to learn. You made the claim. It is up to you to cite references and not play your childish games of having me go on a wild goose chase. > If I recall correctly you >were even given a link to a website that summarized much of it but >apparently have not bothered to look. Oh really? I already said that I went to that link and could not find any double blind placebo controlled studies showing such an effect. Of course you will probably just tell me to look harder. >If you really are that determined not to know I am not going to waste my >time fightling your determination to remain ignorant. No, you are just wasting your time telling me how you are not going to waste your time. And you will likely demonstrate how little you want to waste your time when you respond to this post. >Please don't confuse >that with my not being willing or able to support my assertions. Your refusal to provide a link to a double blind placebo controlled study indicates quite clearly that you are unable to support your assertions. If you had the goods you would post the proof and prove me wrong. You would like nothing better than to show me up. Unfortunately you are trying to show me up with bluster instead of peer reviewed double blind placebo controlled studies. >>> BTW, My alternative doctor graduated from a little known school >>>called "Georgetown University School of Medicine". That is what the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >I wouldn't be surprised if he is telling the truth. I would. I think that guy is just making stuff up as he goes along. > Sometimes smarter than >average people get a false sense of security about their own intellectual >prowess and decide they don't need to follow the same logical rules as the >rest of us mere mortals. Projecting again "doctor"? > It is probably similar to the reasons that >anesthesioloigsts have the highest rate of drug addiction amongst doctors. >They think that superior knowledge protects them. Oh, is that it? And what is your excuse? I wait with bated breath your response to show how you are not interested in wasting your time with me:-) RC > I wait with bated breath your response to show how you are not > interested in wasting your time with me:-) > > RC Isn't time that everyone just killfiled this insufferable a.s? PLONK. >> I wait with bated breath your response to show how you are not >> interested in wasting your time with me:-) >> >> RC > >Isn't time that everyone just killfiled this insufferable a.s? PLONK. You sure have a nice day too. I am amused at the histrionics many go through when announcing that they are kill-filing (or allegedly kill-filing) someone. I am sure that "OOdoc" appreciates your suggestion. He can then do likewise and have plausible deniability for not answering my very reasonable questions. RC > > I wait with bated breath your response to show how you are not > > interested in wasting your time with me:-) > > > > RC > > Isn't time that everyone just killfiled this insufferable a.s? PLONK. I did try to be nice. Decided not to read my links I guess. Oh well, you are as usual right. Joy >>> But don't feel bad. There is actually an MD (at least he claims he is >>> one) in this newsgroup who claims that antibiotics are useful for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Projecting "doctor"? Not at all. > Seems like it is you who is pissed off at me for exposing you as a > wannabe doctor. So tell us "doctor" what is your name and what are > your credentials? I asked you before but you ignored my question. > Wonder why that was? Christopher Ish, M.D. Johns Hopkins Community Physicians 1132 Annapolis Road Odenton MD 21113 410-874-1400 cish1@jhmi.edu Here is my licensing info. The office address is the old office that I left in April of 2005. If you can get them to update it you are a better man than I am. http://cgi.docboard.org/cgi-shl/nhayer.exe My license is due to be renewed next month so I am hoping they will update the address as part of that process. Here is a link to my current practice. http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/jhcp/sites/odenton_pr.html >>I can give you peer review literature. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > this post. But you would rather "vex" me because I did not ask you > "nicely". Do you treat your "patients" with such arrogance? I am willing. I have done so on many ocassions. I am just not particularly predisposed to provide it on demand to someone who is being a dick about being too lazy to even go to another site to look. Since you are making such an issue about it I will be happy to further show just how full of stuff you are. Here is a link to something like 50 articles on the topic. Some are reviews and many are original research. You have been given this link before and apparently were too lazy and self absorbed to click on it. Additional studies have been discussed on htis board, some not all that long ago. I get you started by giving you this link (again) and if you wnt to know more you can find you way over to google on your own. http://asthmastory.com/research.asp As for my arrogance - I'm generally completely booked and usually have several "overbooks". Basically, I'm a little bit busier than I would like to be. So when I do encounter an attitude like yours I am usually quick to suggest that the person might be better served with another provider. It gives me more time to spend with the people that I like and who like me back. >> I just chose to vex you by chosing >>not to. > > How very professional of you "doctor". When you come to my office and see me in a professional context or just treat me with a modicum of respect here I will be more professional. As it is I really haven't been unprofessional. I just haven't been as accomodating as you would like. Nothing about my profession compels me to provide whatever information is demanded by any beligerant know it all on Usenet. Unprofessional would be if I actually typed out what I am thinking about this whole exchange. >> It has been discussed on this group several time sin the past. > > So what? So if you would bother to look it up you wouldn't be embarassed by shooting your mouth off. >> If I recall correctly you >>were even given a link to a website that summarized much of it but [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > any double blind placebo controlled studies showing such an effect. Of > course you will probably just tell me to look harder. Well, yeah, exactly. For instance, if you had bothered to look all the way down to the fifth link you would have seen this - which is a randomised double bind placebo controlled trial that showed a benefit with Azithromycin over usual care of asthmatics: Azithromycin Improves Asthma Symptoms in Adults 3 months after treatment Hahn DL M.B. Plane Dean Medical Center, Madison, WI; Dept Fam Med, U Wisconsin Medical School, Madison, WI American Thoracic Society Abstracts of the 2004 International Conference. >>If you really are that determined not to know I am not going to waste my >>time fightling your determination to remain ignorant. > > No, you are just wasting your time telling me how you are not going to > waste your time. And you will likely demonstrate how little you want > to waste your time when you respond to this post. You're right. I have completely overestimated my desire to not waste any more time with you. I just responded to this post to give you the info you are so rudely demanding and show you to be the blow hard that you are once and for all. If you e-mail me at my work address (listed above) I will send a conformation just to prove I am who I say I am but other than that I am pretty much done with this. I'll be putting you in my killfile. >>Please don't confuse >>that with my not being willing or able to support my assertions. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > assertions. If you had the goods you would post the proof and prove me > wrong. No, clearly not. > You would like nothing better than to show me up. Yep, exactly why I am doing it now. > Unfortunately > you are trying to show me up with bluster instead of peer reviewed > double blind placebo controlled studies. Hope you are happy now. Bye. <PLONK> Signature00doc > Here is my licensing info. The office address is the old office that I > left in April of 2005. If you can get them to update it you are a better > man than I am. > > http://cgi.docboard.org/cgi-shl/nhayer.exe Oops. That links directs you to some kind of disclaimer and not the page I copied it from. Go here and search on the name. There is only one Ish in the state. http://www.docboard.org/docfinder.html Signature00doc Doc, I'm surprised you gave him this information. The guy appears to be certifiably nuts. > Doc, I'm surprised you gave him this information. The guy > appears to be certifiably nuts. Oh, you high and mighty ones have really got me over a barrel. I nguess that if I was a multi-billionaire I could pay a few thousand people to go on an elimination diet and participate in all the double blind test that you want. You see, the most accurate test for delayed food sensitivities is the elimination diet, which is just too hard for most people. I doubt that the pharmaceutical industry is willing to put up the tons of money on a study that could undermine their business, so you got me there. Dr. James Braly (remember the book) has done studies with smaller groups of people that have interesting results, but you won't read the book. I have already said that this procedure doesn't "CURE" everyone. It is obvious that it is safe, since it only involves taking certain foods out of the diet TEMPORARILY. So, I don't see what you are trying to prove with your self-righteous diatribe. People only have to remove certain foods from their diet for a few months, and then eat small amounts of the foods every 4 days. People will have VARIOUS degrees of success. People with certain health conditions will have more success than people with other health conditions. If you look hard enough you should be able to find people who have had success with this, but you seem to think that everybody is lying. Everybody is lying for no reason. People often start experiencing results in days. The foods that people crave the most are often the problem foods. Some people find their problem food instantly, and feel like a new person in days. Some people feel so good that they volunteeringly decide that they never want to eat their problem food again. The Wall Street Journal had an article in 2005 about people with autism showing improvement when they removed certain foods from their diet. Some people find their problem food by examining their food diary. It depends on the individual. It is amazing that so many people in mainstream medicine have such a large ego, considering that there are so many unanswered questions about the human body. They just can't stand to have a safe way of treating health problems that involves slight dietary changes, and not drugs. bosco62a > > Doc, I'm surprised you gave him this information. The guy > > appears to be certifiably nuts. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > bosco62a Well, when you have spent years on a Psoriasis message board and seen post after post of people who have tried diet fixes that don't work, then you will understand why I can't condone your approach. As a matter of fact, some people are angry. I know someone who wanted the National Psoriasis Foundation to stop the Pango diet book from being advertised on their site - they are so tired of trying this diet and that diet that don't work. I should add that many people with my type of Psoriasis have had better luck relieving symptoms having their tonsils removed over diet. Your one stop fix all just won't fly. I've been around too long to fall for it. Joy > > > Doc, I'm surprised you gave him this information. The guy > > > appears to be certifiably nuts. [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Joy What I'm talking about is done by doctors all over the country. I told a coworker of mine to eliminate dairy products from her diet. Her psoriasis is now gone. Processed foods contain many ingredients that people eat almost everyday. If people didn't eat wheat, corn, dairy, or soy additives several times a week, many of them would not have psoriasis. You don't have to buy anything. Research "Hidden Food Allergies" It may only take a few days to get results. The foods that you crave the most may contain ingredients that you are sensitive to (wheat, dairy, corn, soy, eggs, etc.) bosco62a > What I'm talking about is done by doctors all over the country. I > told a coworker of mine to eliminate dairy products from her diet. Her [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > bosco62a So why do you think that the NIH, who has studied this issue, found so few people with food allergies? You make it sound like this is going to help MOST people while NIH seems to think it is going to help very few. Like 1 or 2 %. The reason some on the Psoriasis board are so angry about the diets that don't work (which you are praising as their answer) is that well- meaning, but obtuse people will often suggest to them that the problem is their diet. Like they haven't already tried that. Like that hasn't already been suggested a trillion times to them. Just another thing they have tried that didn't work. There is no single or simple answer. Joy > > What I'm talking about is done by doctors all over the country. I > > told a coworker of mine to eliminate dairy products from her diet. Her [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Joy It is like I told you. They are using only one definition of the word "allergy". If you read the book "Food Allergies and Food Intolerance" it would explain BOTH sides of the controversy. They are defining allergies as something that triggers an IMMEDIATE reaction. I'm talking about something that can trigger a reaction up til 72 hours later. Mainstream medicine would call this a food intolerance. Alternative medicine and mainstream medicine do not always agree on definitions. Mainstream medicine hides the fact that far more people have "food intolerances" than food "allergies". They also hide the fact that testing for "food Intolerances" is far more inaccurate than the testing for "food allergies". You really should research BOTH sides of the issue. Many people have tried many things, but they have not tried this. Some people have tried this, but they haven't done it the right way. bosco62a > > > What I'm talking about is done by doctors all over the country. I > > > told a coworker of mine to eliminate dairy products from her diet. Her [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > bosco62a So what I asked you before that you never answered is correct. You can go on a 3 day fast and if you then no longer need asthma meds, you can from there to figure out what food was the problem. Maybe what you need to do is to find a new word for your version of "food intolerances" since this is causing some issues with the current definition. The list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Food intolerances includes those listed below. Note that Food intolerances symptoms usually refers to various symptoms known to a patient, but the phrase Food intolerances signs may refer to those signs only noticeable by a doctor: a.. Digestive symptoms b.. Nausea c.. Gas d.. Abdominal bloating e.. Diarrhea f.. Constipation g.. Anal itching h.. See also symptoms of Lactose Intolerance http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/food_intolerances/intro.htm Joy > > > > What I'm talking about is done by doctors all over the country. I > > > > told a coworker of mine to eliminate dairy products from her diet. Her [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Joy If people read the books that I told them about, it would explain EVERYTHING. I will not spoon feed you the information that is in the books. bosco62a So you are selling the book. Good to have that settled. Joy > If people read the books that I told them about, it would explain > EVERYTHING. I will not spoon feed you the information that is in the > books. > > bosco62a > So you are selling the book. Good to have that settled. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > bosco62a HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN GET THE BOOKS FROM THE LIBRARY? HOW MANY TIMES? bosco62a Four times is enough. I don't need you to spoon feed me. The problem you are having is that you don't contribute the necessary information to convince me that it would be anything but a waste of my time to get the book and read it. Did you by any chance read the Trudeau book? There were no fixes in there. http://www.infomercialwatch.org/tran/trudeau.shtml I have to assume when I ask direct questions that you don't answer, the same is probably true of your books. All altmed hype. And the best part is that sick individuals are finally wising up to your tactics. Joy > > So you are selling the book. Good to have that settled. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > bosco62a > Four times is enough. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joy You are just making excuses for your laziness, You did not read the books that I told you about. An honorable person would not make assumptions about a book that they did not read. I did not write the books, GOODBYE. bosco62a > > > So you are selling the book. Good to have that settled. > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > bosco62a > > Four times is enough. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > assumptions about a book that they did not read. I did not write the > books, GOODBYE. I read all the time. I study at Pubmed and Medline thank you. You are the one who will be proven wrong. NSCEO is going to be proven right for my adult onset asthma. You are the lazy one. Asked and answered. I don't think you understand. I have been there. I have done that. I don't have to do it again and again. There are a few that will be helped by your method, but they are few are far between. Joy > So you are selling the book. Good to have that settled. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > bosco62a HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN GET THE BOOKS FROM THE LIBRARY? HOW MANY TIMES? bosco62a > So you are selling the book. Good to have that settled. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > bosco62a HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN GET THE BOOKS FROM THE LIBRARY? HOW MANY TIMES? bosco62a > So you are selling the book. Good to have that settled. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > bosco62a HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN GET THE BOOKS FROM THE LIBRARY? HOW MANY TIMES? bosco62a >> So why do you think that the NIH, who has studied this issue, found so >> few [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I'm talking about something that can trigger a reaction up til 72 hours > later. Mainstream medicine would call this a food intolerance. No. This is one of the things you needs to watch about these books and articles. When someone is presenting one side of an argument they often seem to make a lot of sense because they mistate the oposing arguments and then seemingly easily knock them down. Whatever book told you that doc only call reactions allergies if they occur immediately should be thrown out. The delayed reactions you describe would be termed a type of allergy called type IV hypersensitivity AKA "delayed hypersentivity". http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/ghaffar/hyper00.htm > Alternative medicine and mainstream medicine do not always agree on > definitions. Since words mean by definition how they are described by "the mainstream" when mainstream and alternative medicine disagree on the meaning of a word it is by definition the alternative people that are using it incorrectly. I agree with you that it happens not infrequently. Sometimes it is just sloppy use of the word on the part of the alternative author (read: based on ignornance). Often there is some subtle attempt at deception, often to add legitmacy by creating confusion with accepted concepts. (A great example of this is the use of the term "chronic hyperventilation syndrome" (a legitimate psychiatric diagnosis) by some people pushing certain bogus asthma theories.) > Mainstream medicine hides the fact that far more people > have "food intolerances" than food "allergies". Huh? Since when? http://www.webmd.com/content/article/5/1680_50303 This article by webmd (free registration required) states that nearly everyone has food intolerances at some point but that true food allergies are much more rare (like 1-3%). That sounds like they are saying far more people have food intolerances than food allergies to me. it doesn't get much mor emainstream than webmd. Again - you need to be careful of what is said in these books. The easiest way to knock down the other side is to misrepresent what they claim. > They also hide the fact > that testing for "food Intolerances" is far more inaccurate than the > testing for "food allergies". You really should research BOTH sides of > the issue. Since mainstream medicine says that there is no test for food intolerances other than to try the food and see how you tolerate it I don't understand this statement at all. > Many people have tried many things, but they have not tried this. > Some people have tried this, but they haven't done it the right way. Many people do have food intolerances, immediate hypersentivity reactions (classic "allergic reactions") and delayed type hypersentivity reactions and I am sure have or would benefit from a trial of elimination, However, many people have tried it the right way and found it to be of no benefit. There is no one cure - stop being so offended when people suggest that they have tried your idea and it didn;t work or express skepicism that it will work for them. Everything you say is well recognized by "mainstream medicine" - stop with the feelings of personal persecution and conspiracy theories. Signature00doc > >> So why do you think that the NIH, who has studied this issue, found so > >> few [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > -- > 00doc READ THE BOOKS !!! GET THE INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH !!! bosco62a > READ THE BOOKS !!! GET THE INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM THE > HORSE'S > MOUTH !!! > > bosco62a Nobody but me thinks this is BradChad? Oh no, for sure this is Brad Chad. >> READ THE BOOKS !!! GET THE INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S >> MOUTH !!! >> >> bosco62a > > Nobody but me thinks this is BradChad? I was assuming that everyone thought it was Brad Chad. It never occured to me that it might not be. Signature00doc > I was assuming that everyone thought it was Brad Chad. It never > occured to me that it might not be. Only Bosco doesn't believe he's Brad Chad. >> I was assuming that everyone thought it was Brad Chad. It never occured >> to me that it might not be. > > Only Bosco doesn't believe he's Brad Chad. If you were brad, would you admit it--even to yourself? Then again, he might lie about that too. so be brilliant, do a whois. LOLOOLO > READ THE BOOKS !!! GET THE INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S > MOUTH !!! You have a lot of obvious misperceptions, some of which I pointed out in the above post. If these are based on your books then I think we would all be better of not reading them. Signature00doc >> READ THE BOOKS !!! GET THE INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM THE >> HORSE'S [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > pointed out in the above post. If these are based on your > books then I think we would all be better of not reading them. Now, now...don't try to confuse the issue with facts. > >> READ THE BOOKS !!! GET THE INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM THE > >> HORSE'S [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -- > > 00doc If you don't prove to me that you have read something from the books, or called an alternative doctor, this discussion is over. Don't challenge me, challenge what's in the books. bosco62a > Now, now...don't try to confuse the issue with facts. > If you don't prove to me that you have read something from > the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > bosco62a Go back and look at how doc, ARoberts and I disproved all the shite you were shoveling under the name Brad Chad. Just because you have a new handle doesn't mean we start all over again. And how many times have I told YOU that I've READ books about this and that my allergist put me on a three day rotation elimination diet TWENTY-SOME years ago, and gave me a list of foods that are hidden in packaged food? HOW MANY TIMES MUST I TELL YOU?????????? HOW MANY??????????????????????? > > If you don't prove to me that you have read something from > > the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > HOW MANY TIMES MUST I TELL YOU?????????? HOW > MANY??????????????????????? You didn't read the books that I told you about, GOODBYE. bosco62a > You didn't read the books that I told you about, GOODBYE. > > bosco62a Dare we hope you mean it. >> You didn't read the books that I told you about, GOODBYE. >> >> bosco62a > Dare we hope you mean it. He isn't known for his honesty, but we can always hope. I wonder what alias he will use next time... > If you don't prove to me that you have read something from the > books, or called an alternative doctor, this discussion is over. Don't > challenge me, challenge what's in the books. You're right. I can't prove it. I guess the discussion is over. Shucks. Signature00doc > > READ THE BOOKS !!! GET THE INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S > > MOUTH !!! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > 00doc Get the author's perception straight from the book. You are making excuses to justify not reading the books. I dare you to show the books to any doctor, and have them put up a good argument against them. Get a quote from the books and challenge anybody. bosco62a > > READ THE BOOKS !!! GET THE INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S > > MOUTH !!! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > 00doc Get the author's perception straight from the book. You are making excuses to justify not reading the books. I dare you to show the books to any doctor, and have them put up a good argument against them. Get a quote from the books and challenge anybody. bosco62a > >> So why do you think that the NIH, who has studied this issue, found so > >> few [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > -- > 00doc Don't rely on what I tell you. READ THE BOOKS. The books explain things much better than I do. The books explain the costs and scientific complexities of studying this. You would need a legion of people willing to go on an elimination diet to study this. The books explain this in a sound levelheaded way. The books explain why people look for their problem foods in the wrong way. Just be mindful that when it talks about food, it also means food derivatives. bosco62a > Don't rely on what I tell you. READ THE BOOKS. The books > explain [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > bosco62a I swear, you're insane. You just keep going on and on and on about the same thing, no matter what people post. Go to alt.allergy.support and give us a break. > > > Doc, I'm surprised you gave him this information. The guy > > > appears to be certifiably nuts. [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Joy What I'm talking about is done by doctors all over the country. I told a coworker of mine to eliminate dairy products from her diet. Her psoriasis is now gone. Processed foods contain many ingredients that people eat almost everyday. If people didn't eat wheat, corn, dairy, or soy additives several times a week, many of them would not have psoriasis. You don't have to buy anything. Research "Hidden Food Allergies" It may only take a few days to get results. The foods that you crave the most may contain ingredients that you are sensitive to (wheat, dairy, corn, soy, eggs, etc.) bosco62a Bosco, why are you directing your rant towards me when I wasn't referring to you in my reply to doc? I was talking about Carlisle. >> Doc, I'm surprised you gave him this information. The guy >> appears to be certifiably nuts. [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > bosco62a > Doc, I'm surprised you gave him this information. The guy appears to be > certifiably nuts. And for three days now he has been certifiably silent. I wasn't in the office on Friday so it will be interesting to see when I go in tomorrow if he bothered to try to conform. I don't think he is nuts. I googled him and found a lot of posting on health and fitness groups. He likes to give health advice and seems to consider himself some kind of expert. He often is right and often completely full of "it" which leads me to believe that he has some background but not a very deep knowledge. I'm guessing he is some kind of nurse, therapist, paramedic, lab tech or something like that. I'd bet he is a physical therapist if I had to make a wager. He is a good advertisement for the importance of knowing your own limitations and how a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Now that he has been exposed as a blow hard here my bet is that he will slink back to the fitness groups and continue offering expert opinions there. Signature00doc > Now that he has been exposed as a blow hard here my bet is that > he will slink back to the fitness groups and continue offering > expert opinions there. Or go back to toilet training cats. > > Now that he has been exposed as a blow hard here my bet is that > > he will slink back to the fitness groups and continue offering > > expert opinions there. > > > > -- > > 00doc > Or go back to toilet training cats. Thanks for the heads up. http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/03.16.00/gifs/how2k-domestic4-0011.jpg >> > Now that he has been exposed as a blow hard here my bet is >> > that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/03.16.00/gifs/how2k-domestic4-0011.jpg Why, Bob, I'm all aflush. >> Now that he has been exposed as a blow hard here my bet is that he will >> slink back to the fitness groups and continue offering expert opinions >> there. > > Or go back to toilet training cats. Yep, just out of curiosity I googled him again. He has been actively posting to his sports and gambling groups all weekend - just not here. I guess he no longer has anything to say to us. Signature00doc > Yep, just out of curiosity I googled him again. He has been > actively posting to his sports and gambling groups all > weekend - just not here. I guess he no longer has anything to > say to us. He didn't have anything to say to us in the first place. He just wanted to hear himself blahblahblah. "Oh, wait, you really ARE a doctor? never mind...." >> Yep, just out of curiosity I googled him again. He has been actively >> posting to his sports and gambling groups all weekend - just not here. I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > "Oh, wait, you really ARE a doctor? never mind...." And, just in case you were wondering - no, he did not e-mail me or contact the office to try to confirm my identity. I guess it is kind of like how he didn't bother to read the articles on the asthmastory website but, none the less, kept claiming there were no randomised trials. It wouldn't surprise me if he lays low for a while then comes right back making all the same claims again (hoping everyone will forget about this whole exchange). Signature00doc It wouldn't surprise me > if he lays low for a while then comes right back making all the > same claims again (hoping everyone will forget about this whole > exchange). That sounds like something he would do. Or claim that just because you posted some doctors contact information, doesn't mean you're him. What a putz. We've seen this before, though, so no surprise. I think we should call it the Merlin Method of online debate. > >> >> >> >> > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this > >> >> >> >> > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 297 lines] > > RC I never said anything about a cure. I have already said that this does not work for everybody. There are varying degrees of success. Some people won't be affected by this at all, but most people will. I told you to read the books because they will give you a good idea of what specific questions to ask mainstream doctors. If people don't continue to keep their problem foods out of their diet, their symptoms will start all over again. My problems used to start up again if I ate my problem foods by accident. I have already said that you can look up any doctor at www.acam.org and research their credentials. I will not give you an idea of what part of the U.S.A that I live in. I told you that many of these doctors will speak to you on the phone for a few minutes about Hidden Food Sensitivities. I told you to compare what they say to mainstream doctors, concerning the issue of food sensitivities. bosco62a > >> >> >> > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take this > >> >> >> > information for what it's worth. [quoted text clipped - 165 lines] > > > > bosco62a I get so sick and tired of people who won't get off their lazy behind. I keep telling people that there are several books about Hidden Food Sensitivities (allergies) at libraries and bookstores (written by doctors). Do they read any of them? No. Do they go to Amazon.com and read the reviews? No. Do they go to www.acam.org, find an alternative doctor, and check to make sure that they are members of a state medical board? No. They do nothing but criticize. If they called an alternative doctor and asked them about research on Hidden Food Sensitivities, I'm sure that they would give people the information that they needed. Few people are eager to spend millions of dollars on research that could cause the Pharmaceutical Industry (and the Processed Foods Industry) to lose billions of dollars. Mainstream medicine does not always put their medical techniques through objective analysis and review. If you read "Dr. Braly's Food Allergy and Nutrition Revolution", he points out which medical techniques are just blindly accepted. One of the reasons that there is alternative medicine is that there is a WHOLE LOT that nobody knows about the human body. That is why there is room for disagreement. When I told my coworker that giving up dairy products might help her psoriasis, I did not suggest that she buy anything. She just simply substituted other foods and got better. She got better than she ever imagined. Many people can knock out several health problems by eliminating their Hidden Food Allergens. People everywhere are saying this. Just look around the Internet. Everybody isn't lying about getting better. I never said that you had to buy anything. National Public Radio and USATODAY have discussed the economic relationship between medical schools and pharmaceutical companies. BTW, My alternative doctor graduated from a little known school called "Georgetown University School of Medicine". That is what the state medical board says anyway. They say that he hasn't had any disciplinary actions against him nor any malpractice problems. bosco62a >> >> >> >> > Folks, I'm NOT a doctor and I only had MILD asthma, so take >> >> >> >> > this [quoted text clipped - 232 lines] > > bosco62a I've been away for a while, so it's pretty amazing that you have come back to promote alternative doctors, when you have been caught in this lie many times before. Remember brad--an allergist was your salvation, not a naturopath: December 15, 2004 you posted: "Did you know that at least 70% of people with asthma have food allergies? Hidden food allergies can trigger a lot of medical conditions. Many doctors will not refer you to an allergist because they want to try a quick fix. The best fix may be an allergist. Food allergies may also be robbing you of some of your energy without you knowing it. Talk to an allergist. You won't regret it. An allergist got rid of my asthma. " On 3/6/2006 You curiously posted: > I was never really all that excited about naturopathic medicine. > My point all along has been that naturopaths are supremely qualified to > search for Hidden Food Allergies. Here is a link from the NIH about the Naturopathic "profession": http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1140750 brad has a long history of distorting facts, including his own history. He can't keep his lies straight. Google back through the past year's postings, and you'll see... > I don't know where it says that all medical school graduates have > to proactice the same type of medicine. My doctor is a family doctor. I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > bosco62a I agree. Not only that, one of my coworker's husbands works for a pharmceutical company as a salesman. He makes over $250,000 year. Those companies make big bucks. I think I'm in the wrong business! ~Melanie |
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