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Air Cleaners USED in Sears and Large Retail Chains

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mcs - 11 Jul 2006 12:25 GMT
I went over this topic before but if someone cares to go over it again I
would appreciate.it. Had I not experienced a marked difference in air
quality I would probably think another option like cleaning the air inside
would be useless but unlike most commercial products available  to homeowner
except for hepa filters ( limited benefit) Its difficult to replicate that
kind of air quality change that I have found at certain pharmacies and
supermarkets and at Sears . I am supposing each of these systems is based on
sophisticated systems with huge vents and ductwork but the interesting thing
is how does it change the air so well? I doubt Sears has guys cleaning the
filters all day yet the air seems to be very good in the newer stores.
Anyone have a clue?
Finally here is another claim for aircleaners consumers are suppose to sort
thru.
www.envirosoutions.ws
k8vf-Mark - 11 Jul 2006 23:17 GMT
thing
> is how does it change the air so well? I doubt Sears has guys cleaning the
> filters all day yet the air seems to be very good in the newer stores.
> Anyone have a clue?
> Finally here is another claim for aircleaners consumers are suppose to sort
> thru.
> www.envirosoutions.ws

Normally any public place must have a percentage of the CONTINUOUSLY
circulated air replaced by fresh air. (So many cu ft per square foot of
space depending on occupancy).

The filters are generally a roll type with automatic advance based on
the pressure drop across the filter.  They would be alarmed when the
filter got to the end of the roll, or if the pressure drop exceeded 1
inch of water column(or thererabouts).

This can also be done with "air washers" where treated water is sprayed
across the stream. Water is treated as necessary and drained and
replaced continuously.

When installed properly the work great, clean well.

If the Building engineer, or maintenence contractor, is lax, all bets
are off.

Now saying all of that, enforcement is lax in some places. Exceptions
are made for parochial schools , churches,for some reason and bowling
alleys get away with murder regarding this.

Hope this helps.
mcs - 12 Jul 2006 14:09 GMT
> thing
>> is how does it change the air so well? I doubt Sears has guys cleaning
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>
> Hope this helps.

thanks mark,
But it all sounds a little out there to me. What is a roll type and how does
the air feel so fresh.?  You might have fresh air coming in continusouly but
if its not clean like here where I live for example, what good is it?  Sears
and some large chain grocery and pharmacies (but not all )usually have
almost unreal clean air. How do I know? Well my body shuts down once the air
reaches moderate amounts of polluntants, so when I go to these stores I just
smell and react to clean air. What I do notice is huge air vents which must
cost huge amounts of money . If there was someway to get that into a home..
even though I do think mold is any issue to many homes too . Its funny
though these chains are not asking for advice about clean air machines, and
they probably know whats going on and why in their buildings.
k8vf-Mark - 12 Jul 2006 17:55 GMT
> thanks mark,
> But it all sounds a little out there to me. What is a roll type and how does
> the air feel so fresh.?  You might have fresh air coming in continusouly but
> if its not clean like here where I live for example, what good is it?

As I said, it seem fresh because it IS fresh air, added to a percentage
of recirculated air. Monitored continuously for temperature and
humidity. The filters are monitored for cleanliness by measuring
pressure drop.

Roll filters are, ....filters on a roll, perhaps up to 6 feet in height
which are suspended across the air flow.  The take up roll on one side,
supply roll on the other, advanced automatically per the pressure
drop.(kind of like the old piano player rolls, only way larger).

The air , of course, passes through the filter media.

So the air is clean, fresh, and properly humidified any time there is
occupancy.

When the building is vacant, the system normally goes on 100%
recirculated air to save money, unless the building contents require
otherwise.  (furniture, plants, animals, etc)
mcs - 14 Jul 2006 12:08 GMT
>> thanks mark,
>> But it all sounds a little out there to me. What is a roll type and how
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> recirculated air to save money, unless the building contents require
> otherwise.  (furniture, plants, animals, etc)

Thanks again Mark
What filter machine or system do you recommend for homeowners ?
 
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