A. inhaler loan may give teen felony & expulsion from HS

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Fern5827 - 09 Oct 2003 18:11 GMT

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Subject: Re: Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
From: fern5827@aol.com (Fern5827)
Date: 10/9/2003 12:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <20031009125440.10065.00000104@mb-m22.aol.com>

Hey, Billy!

Unbelievable. What state?

There are some twists to this story. The school may DISLIKE THIS KID, and want
him out.

Or the School Board is incredibly stupid.

You can die, as the Mom says, very quickly too, from an asthma attack.
Especially in the autumn, which is a terrible season for pollens and mold.

Hope the SB is ready to pay out.

Billy sent in: And a FELONY, too?? ;-((

>Subject: Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
>From: "billy f" bassman_21@yahoo.com
>Date: 10/9/2003 8:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9xchb.7091$FH1.6011@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>
>
>http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/100803_local_inhaler.html
>
>ABC13 Eyewitness News
>(10/08/03 - CONROE) - There's controversy over a school's zero tolerance
>drug policy. Some say it's gone too far. A 15-year-old faces expulsion after
>giving an inhaler to his girlfriend during an asthma attack that happened at
>school.
>
>Boyfriend and girlfriend, 15-year-olds Brandon Kizi and Andra Ferguson are
>both asthma sufferers and both students at Caney Creek High School. At
>least, they were, until Andra began suffering an asthma attack at school.
>
>"I couldn't breathe, and I was just very short of breath," recalled Andra.
>"My chest was tightened up and it was hurting."
>
>Brandon described the incident. "Her face was turning a little reddish-pink
>and she looked pale, as far as I could see. I loaned her my inhaler. I
>walked her to the nurse's office and loaned her my inhaler."
>
>That's when the trouble started. The school nurse called the school police,
>who arrested Brandon. They charged him with a felony, namely distributing a
>dangerous drug for loaning out his prescription inhaler. Andra's mother
>thinks that's wrong.
>
>"His (inhaler) is the very same thing. And he has had my permission to give
>her that medication any time she forgets it," said Sandra Ferguson.
>
>But school officials say that Brandon had been warned about loaning his
>inhaler, and that new state laws mean their hands are tied when it comes to
>zero tolerance and drugs.
>
>Principal Greg Poole told Eyewitness News, "It's hard, it's difficult. We
>certainly don't look forward to expelling any kid. But then you have to
>consider a kid takes the medication and has an allergic reaction, and then
>we have to deal with that issue. So, yes, there is no discretion at this
>stage."
>
>Brandon now faces mandatory expulsion from school and criminal charges in
>juvenile court. His mother is outraged.
>
>Theresa Hock said, "It's so unfair. My son was helping her out. And now he's
>facing criminal charges. Would they rather have had her die than my son to
>help her?"
>
>Brandon has a hearing on Friday to determine how long he'll be expelled for.
>In addition, he still has to go to juvenile court to deal with that felony
>charge.
>(Copyright © 2003, KTRK-TV)

http://www.familyrightsassociation.com Mom oughta contact them. Folks and
sites in each state.

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Bob McConnell - 10 Oct 2003 00:58 GMT

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>Billy sent in: And a FELONY, too?? ;-((

School administrators are so terrified of the students and potential
law suits that all common sense has been discarded for some time now.
If there is any possibility of an infraction, they are more than
willing to have the police handle it, rather than have to deal out any
discipline or handle parental complaints themselves. That makes the
police play the bad cop, but turns innocent kids into criminals.

This won't change until the community selects a school board willing
to make the administration do their own job instead of pawning the
kids off on the police. It's not even the problem children that get
punished.

Bob McConnell
N2SPP

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Fern5827 - 13 Oct 2003 20:21 GMT

Hi, Bob and thank you for your response.

>That makes the
>police play the bad cop, but turns innocent kids into criminals.

The *criminalization* of Americans.

>This won't change until the community selects a school board willing
>to make the administration do their own job instead of pawning the
>kids off on the police. It's not even the problem children that get
>punished.

Unfortunately, this is a TX law (Supposedly).

There was some talk on other NG's about Good Samaritan laws coming into play.

Bob sent in:

>Subject: Re: A. inhaler loan may give teen felony & expulsion from HS
>From: Bob McConnell rmcconne@NOSPAM.lightlink.com
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>Bob McConnell
>N2SPP

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Michael Halliwell - 14 Oct 2003 02:40 GMT

> Hi, Bob and thank you for your response.
>
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> There was some talk on other NG's about Good Samaritan laws coming into play.

Won't that be a switch! I'm a volunteer first-aider here in Canada...but I
won't touch nobody in the US! Good Samaritan Laws in most states leave you
wide open to having your butt sued for doing what's right.

I guess that's the price for living in such a litigation happy society.

Michael Halliwell

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WBowman497 - 14 Oct 2003 13:52 GMT

>Subject: Re: A. inhaler loan may give teen felony & expulsion from HS
>From: "Michael Halliwell"

>> >This won't change until the community selects a school board willing

The school board did change as they reinstated the young man but his mother
decided that she would not return him and would home school him instead.

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Knox JT171 - 28 Oct 2003 08:22 GMT

I agree that it's outrageous that the kid would be punished for providing an
inhaler to his girlfriend. However, even as an asthmatic I can understand the
school's side on this issue (even if I don't agree with how it was carried
out). Students should, as a rule, not be allowed to dispense prescription
drugs to other students.

What if, in the judgment of a student, it was appropriate to give a drug to
another student? What if there was a dangerous side-effect and the other
student was harmed due to the drug? I can guarantee you 100% that these same
parents would be suing the school for allowing their daughter to receive drugs
from another student.

Now I don't think that albuterol is that dangerous drug that would harm another
student, but the principle should be that students are not empowered to
medicate their classmates.

>Subject: Re: A. inhaler loan may give teen felony & expulsion from HS
>From: wbowman497@aol.com (WBowman497)
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>The school board did change as they reinstated the young man but his mother
>decided that she would not return him and would home school him instead.

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Arrhae - 29 Oct 2003 02:39 GMT

> What if, in the judgment of a student, it was appropriate to give a drug to
> another student? What if there was a dangerous side-effect and the other
> student was harmed due to the drug? I can guarantee you 100% that these same
> parents would be suing the school for allowing their daughter to receive drugs
> from another student.

Then at the trial, I think the judge should ask the parents if they would
have rather their daughter died from not having the drug, or have received
it. If they'd prefer the daughter live because of the loaned meds, the suit
should be thrown out, if they'd prefer their daughter die, CPS should take
the children away from the parents.

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