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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / April 2006

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nospam@aol.com - 09 Apr 2006 02:42 GMT
I have had asthma for three years - it started when I was taking an antibiotic,
Avelox.  It started with severe shortness of breath and my doctor switched my
antibiotic to Biaxin.  The asthma got worse and I went to the ER where they gave
me a breathing treatment along with several prescriptions for inhalers,
prednisone pills and the whole shebang.  They told me I had emphysema and I told
them I want proof so I had a test for emphysema which indicated that I did not
have emphysema.  I couldn't use the inhalers containing steroids so have been
using the albuterol twice or three times a day ever since.

Four days ago I took two pills containing  pseudoephedrine, 30 mg.  Six hours
later I took two more.  I did not need to use my inhaler at all.

The next day I took two pseudoephredrine in the morning and two more in the
afternoon.  No inhaler needed.

Yesterday I did not take the pseudoephredrine and did not need the inhaler but
today I took some because I felt the need to use my inhaler.  It worked again.

I have not used the inhaler for four days and wonder if the pseudoephredrine is
the reason.  

Ora    
Jason - 09 Apr 2006 22:05 GMT
> I have had asthma for three years - it started when I was taking an antibiotic,
> Avelox.  It started with severe shortness of breath and my doctor switched my
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>
> Ora    

Ora,
Based upon your post, it appears to me (unless you are lying) that
pseudoephredrine is the reason. However, you should continue the
experiment for several more months in order to be sure.
I should note that pseudo means
"being apparently rather than actually as stated: sham, spurious."
Webster's Dictionary

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00doc - 10 Apr 2006 21:19 GMT
> I have had asthma for three years - it started when I was taking an antibiotic,
> Avelox.  It started with severe shortness of breath and my doctor switched my
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> I have not used the inhaler for four days and wonder if the pseudoephredrine is
> the reason.

I suppose the Sudafed could just be stimulating the same receptors as
the albuterol and so providing the same effect (plus a lot of systemic
effects that you probably don't need). If both work I'm not sure why
you would consider the Sudafed to be more desirable.

Another (I think more likely) possibility is that your symptoms are
having some contribution from nasal congestion which is being treated
by the Sudafed. If this is the case, depending on your other medical
issues, there may be better medcine for you (or maybe not).

As for the diagnosis: Emphysema involves a fixed defect of the airways
and so normal spirometry casts a lot of doubt on that diagnosis. Asthma
is by definition reversible and intermittent so a normal test does not
rule it out unless it is done while having significant symptoms. It
might be a good idea to go back and see someone to explore the correct
diagnosis and best treatment options.

FWIW: Pseudo- in "medical-ese" means "like" - as in something that is
like whatever the suffix is but is not it. In this case it means that
pseudoephedrine is similar to ephedrine but not the same.
nospam@aol.com - 10 Apr 2006 21:49 GMT
>> I have had asthma for three years - it started when I was taking an antibiotic,
>> Avelox.  It started with severe shortness of breath and my doctor switched my
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>effects that you probably don't need). If both work I'm not sure why
>you would consider the Sudafed to be more desirable.

Two main reasons come immediately to mind.  Availability and cost.  Sudafed and
generics are readily available and do not require a prescription.  

>Another (I think more likely) possibility is that your symptoms are
>having some contribution from nasal congestion which is being treated
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>might be a good idea to go back and see someone to explore the correct
>diagnosis and best treatment options.

I belong to an HMO and they set the guidelines.  I would like to explore the
correct diagnosis but the provider would need to be motivated and they generally
take the "symptom relieving"/"universal" approach.  Furthermore the Albuterol
requires a prescription and most providers have an agenda for asthma which leans
strongly to  pulling out the prescription pad.  

I don't know the criteria for prescription meds vs. OTC but have the impression
that OTC's are potentially less hazardous than prescription meds.  

Ora
00doc - 11 Apr 2006 17:43 GMT
"I belong to an HMO and they set the guidelines.  I would like to
explore the
correct diagnosis but the provider would need to be motivated and they
generally
take the "symptom relieving"/"universal" approach.  Furthermore the
Albuterol
requires a prescription and most providers have an agenda for asthma
which leans
strongly to  pulling out the prescription pad.  "

Suit yourself.

"I don't know the criteria for prescription meds vs. OTC but have the
impression
that OTC's are potentially less hazardous than prescription meds."

Don't bet on it.
 
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