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Study:Treatment May Aid Asthma Sufferers

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shorteze@msn.com - 02 Feb 2006 00:45 GMT
Messenger boy here.
The article is a bit confusing.Are they saying that the meds would stop
mucuous production or attacks altogether?
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/health/3629343.html
"ST. LOUIS - A two-drug treatment may one day help restore healthy
breathing in those with asthma and chronic bronchitis, according to a
study at Washington University in St. Louis.

Dr. Michael Holtzman and other researchers found that some cells lining
the air passages of the lungs transform into another cell type in mice
and humans with those disorders, leading to the overproduction of mucus
in the airways.

Though researchers expect it would take at least a few years for
further testing of the treatments, they think that combining two drugs
ultimately could prevent the harmful transformation of the lining
cells, allowing for healthy airway function.

Holtzman said the findings are "pushing the rock a little further up
the hill" when it comes to understanding airway diseases.

The study appeared Wednesday in the Journal of Clinical Investigation.

Holtzman explained that doctors currently prescribe treatments to ease
breathing difficulties, but said those treatments don't address mucus
production.

Researchers studied mice with a lung condition resembling asthma and
chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, a disease classification that
includes chronic bronchitis.

They saw that the airway lining maintained an overabundance of
mucus-producing cells, called goblet cells because they have a cup-like
shape.

Those goblet cells built up because of two cellular mechanisms. One
mechanism allowed for the prolonged survival of cells with cilia, tiny
hairs that help sweep debris out of the lungs. The other encouraged
those cells to transform into goblet cells.

Holtzman said in some people viral infections or other factors seemed
to cause an excess of goblet cells, leading to certain breathing
disorders. He said the researchers showed that the excess cells could
be blocked, using a combination of two types of inhibitors.

One impedes the activity of a protein called the epidermal growth
factor receptor. The protein is overactive on the ciliated airway cells
in mice with the asthma-like condition. If the protein was blocked, the
inhibitor prevented the buildup of those cells.

The researchers also tested a second inhibitor that interferes with
signaling pathways activated by an immune-system protein known as
interleukin-13. They found that IL-13 brought out the change from
ciliated to goblet cells in mouse airways and human airway cells in
culture. If IL-13 was interfered with, the transformation from one cell
type to the other was prevented.

Holtzman said if the inhibitors are combined, they can "restore the
normal architecture of the airway lining."

Dr. Kenneth Adler, a cell biology professor at North Carolina State
University in Raleigh, said the researchers' work to inhibit cells that
increase mucus was significant, because currently there aren't any
therapies to effectively treat that problem.

"Mice aren't people, and cells in culture aren't airways in people," he
noted. But, he said, if the findings held true in additional studies,
they could be highly significant in treating humans."
Alison Chaiken - 02 Feb 2006 05:45 GMT
>The article is a bit confusing.

Concur.  Oftentimes looking at the original medical article is less
confusing even if you don't know the jargon.

>Are they saying that the meds would stop mucuous production or
>attacks altogether?

I get the impression that the treatment would prevent asthma, not cure
it.  Once you have goblet cells already, does the treatment do
anything?  Maybe the implication is that Xolair (anti-IgE) will help
prevent excess mucus production.

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Brad_Chad - 02 Feb 2006 07:37 GMT
> Messenger boy here.
> The article is a bit confusing.Are they saying that the meds would stop
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> noted. But, he said, if the findings held true in additional studies,
> they could be highly significant in treating humans."

I found my Hidden Food Allergies (corn and dairy) and got rid of my
asthma, eczema, chronic fatigue, joint pain, and gastrointestinal
problems in one shot, plus my energy level skyrocketed. I've been
getting better sleep, my skin looks healthier, and my gums look
healthier (much pinker). Talk to a naturopathic doctor (Yellow Pages)
or an alternative doctor (www.acam.org) for more info. Several doctors
have written books about this (public library).

    Brad_Chad
NorthShoreCEO - 02 Feb 2006 13:32 GMT
>> Messenger boy here.
>> The article is a bit confusing.Are they saying that the meds
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>
>     Brad_Chad

Your "contribution" has nothing to do with the article that
Shorteze has pointed us to.  Do you ever read before cutting and
pasting your "bit"???  NOPE!
Brad_Chad - 03 Feb 2006 05:28 GMT
> Your "contribution" has nothing to do with the article that
> Shorteze has pointed us to.  Do you ever read before cutting and
> pasting your "bit"???  NOPE!

    What I wrote has everything to do with it. My doctor says that he
gets rid of asthma in at LEAST 80% of his patients by finding their
hidden food sensitivities. If people got off their rear end and looked
into hidden food sensitivities, I wouldn't feel a need to beat you over
the head with it, because you wouldn't have asthma in the first place.

    Brad_Chad
NorthShoreCEO - 03 Feb 2006 14:07 GMT
>> Your "contribution" has nothing to do with the article that
>> Shorteze has pointed us to.  Do you ever read before cutting
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>
>     Brad_Chad

I don't have asthma anymore, which has nothing to do with food
allergies and while I stick around to suggest to certain people
that they may have asthma caused by bacteria, which can be cured
(as mine was), I don't beat anyone over the head with it because
I know that asthma has a number of different causes.

That's the problem.  You beat everyone over the head with your
one cause/one cure nonsense, even if they're just posting an
article.   Do you have OCD or something ?
Brad_Chad - 04 Feb 2006 04:39 GMT
> I don't have asthma anymore, which has nothing to do with food
> allergies and while I stick around to suggest to certain people
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> one cause/one cure nonsense, even if they're just posting an
> article.   Do you have OCD or something ?

    Many people have asthma as a child, and then it seems to majically
disappear. A few years later they get eczema, a few years after that
they get severe hayfever, and a few years after that they get severe
joint pain. Because these problems happen years apart, people assume
that they are not connected. They may find out about hidden food
sensitivities, and all of these problems disappear in a few days. Their
energy level skyrockets. Their gums look much healthier. Their skin
looks much healthier, and they even sleep better. Many of these people
lose a few pounds, and have no problem keeping it off (for the first
time in their life). My alternative doctor says that he sees major
improvement in 100% of his patients that have psoriasis, after
adjusting their diet. He sees major improvement in his asthma patients
(80%) after adjusting their diet. The same goes for ADD, eczema, and
many other health problems. Most of his patients say that they look and
feel like new people. You just don't understand that the foods that you
eat today can contribute to your health problems days later. If you eat
your problem foods everyday, your health problems may build up over the
years.

    Brad_Chad
ARoberts - 03 Feb 2006 14:42 GMT
>> Your "contribution" has nothing to do with the article that
>> Shorteze has pointed us to.  Do you ever read before cutting and
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>
>     Brad_Chad

Then your "doctor" is full of it. Post the doctor's name and credentials.
shorteze@msn.com - 03 Feb 2006 15:37 GMT
The articles all over the news,must be important I guess!
NorthShoreCEO - 03 Feb 2006 16:37 GMT
> The articles all over the news,must be important I guess!

I think when a study involves a new approach, it tends to get
more press.  Then again, this could be a more veiled press
release sent to a number of publications.

The problem with major announcements like this is they fall off
the radar screen.  We read a number of these studies that look
promising every year and how much further along is the treatment
of asthma in the past ten to twenty years?    Meds change,
treatment doesn't seem to change all that much.
shorteze@msn.com - 03 Feb 2006 16:45 GMT
Yes I agree,like the asthma vaccine that was HUGE news but now no one
has heard of it.
shorteze@msn.com - 03 Feb 2006 19:06 GMT
After reading it another article,it seems that it would reverse the
effects of airway remodelling.
Richard Friedel - 05 Feb 2006 09:02 GMT
Email to Dr. Holtzman

"Dr. Michael J. Holtzman

Selma and Herman Seldin Professor of Medicine

Washington University School of Medicine, Campus Box 8052, 660 South
Euclid Avenue, St. Louis, MO 63110, USA. holtzman@im.wustl.edu

A study on two drug treatment coauthored by yourself is now being
discussed in the Usenet group alt.support.asthma.

As a believer in scientific medicine and in science as understood by
- I like to think - the average reader of the Scientific American,
I must protest at this sort of study as being based on a lack of basic
research on respiratory mechanics.  It is putting the cart before the
horse and based on the unlikely proposition that there is no two-way
interaction between dysfunctional breathing and airway tissue damage.

Why are oriental breathing techniques not studied in chest medicine?
The Chinese and Japanese seem to have made respiratory sensations a way
of life and a foundation of their metaphysics. The fact that such
techniques are based on "cultivating" sensations in connection with
largely imaginary points in the abdomen and on influencing airflow
through the nose and other airways in a non-measurable way should not
mean that they are unscientific as opposed to not fitting in with
traditional western treatments.

As an example of one such technique see
http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~s3e0101/webserver/webdata/MantakChia030206.pdf
in the form of two exercises from "Tan Tien Chi Kung - Foundational
Exercises for Empty Force and Perineum Power" by prolific author
Mantak Chia, who has an excellent reputation.

Specifically Mantak's notion of cultivating a feeling for the
perineum and then, while inhaling, sucking the upper abdomen into the
chest would seem to overcome bronchoconstriction and enable a deep
inspiration to be made. Such failure to do a deep inspiration is
pin-pointed by Dr. Gwen Skloot and others as being a critical
characteristic of asthma.

Would it be possible for you to post some comments directly to the
group alt.support.asthma, to which the above is being posted?  Would
direct phone contact be ok?
Respectfully submitted by Richard Friedel."
 
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