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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / December 2005This is so great!
I took a friend who was Sob to the ER Friday and I want everyone to know that WE WIN. If your x-ray indicates that you are infected with one of the Pneumonias (*C or *M by characteristic infiltrates), FINALLY you will be treated with Macrolides. I've only been fighting for 3 years, but there are people out there with a decade of work (thank you JIM and Dr Hahn) to finally stop adult onset asthma. Take me down CBI. LOLOL. You lose. Hey man, you should have worked for CDC. Maybe then you would have won. Joy >I took a friend who was Sob to the ER Friday and I want everyone to know > that WE WIN. If your x-ray indicates that you are infected with one of the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > CDC. > Maybe then you would have won. You need help.  Signature00doc > You need help. Sticks and stones. > You need help. > -- > 00doc Sticks and stones. Now...play nicely, you two... ;-) > > You need help. > > > -- > > 00doc Uncalled for. Just like the other stuff. Do you recall Aroberts that Dr. Preuss left due to this stuff? No way I'm letting this bad attitude off. Uncivilized behavior. Period. No apology accepted either. You know and I know he knew what he was doing. Belittling another adult whose ego is intact is pointless. You'd think he could benefit from a Pych CME course. Joy I have been serious the last few times when I have said that your recent posting has become incoherent and that I rarely understood what you were talking about. I'm not trying to be cute or belittleing or engage in, much less win, any kind of debate. I'm just pointing out the obvious. I'm guessing that you have a lot going on in your personal life that is causing you to spew venom here and to look for offense. I am not the only one who thinks so. People who have tried to be your friend in the past have expressed concerns. The comment was not uncivil and it was the truth. It was short precisely because I was not interested in getting into some big pissing match with you. In regard to your original post: I have no idea what you think anyone has won or lost or what exactly you are claiming the victory about. Using macrolides for the outpatient treatment of mild to moderate pneumonia has been standard for decades. Are you saying the ER doc gave a 12 week course? FWIW I have treated several patients with Dr. Hahn's regimen (and have stated so here in the past) so I am not really sure how you figure I have lost anything. As for the Preuss thing: Once again I really had no idea what you were talking about. I had some vague recollection of the man so I did a google search. What I found was that you have made that accusation before. Interestingly, he has posted since at least one of your claims that I drove him from the group so it apparently is not true at face value. I did a search on his posts where I was mentioned and found one exchange where we disagreed. Upon reviewing it he asked what he described as a philosophical question and I gave what I felt to be a philosophical answer to which he took offense (and I still think he was not being resopnable about that). He apparently thought I was being trite but I was totally serious. Other than that one exchange I found plenty of threads where we were in complete agreement but no other clashes. If he really left the gorup over one disagrement then he couldn't have been too committed to it in the first place. Surely two people can disagree 1% of the time with neither being seen as unreasonable. FWIW what he said at the time was that he was going away and that he may or may not be back. He did post once after that in a thread where I was not involved. >> You need help. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Now...play nicely, you two... ;-) How about a little snowball fight? http://www.elfmovie.com/swf/snowball_fight/index.html >I took a friend who was Sob to the ER Friday and I want everyone to know >that WE WIN. If your x-ray indicates that you are infected with one of the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Joy SOME so called "asthmas" are not asthmas. That was Jim's original point, I think. It's mine, anyway. Like Jim I was told I had asthma but I didn't. Jim's story helped me but it will not help people who really do have asthma and not a misdiagnosed infection. www.asthmastory.com Why is this semantic argument still happening here? Acually, it seems they are calling what I and Jim had "infectious asthma", so there is a clue. In SOME adults with adult onset asthma an infection of Pneumonias (*C or *M by characteristic infiltrates) is found. Macrolides fix their 'asthma" which was never asthma to start with. I'm glad your friend was treated with the correct medicines to treat her infection. Macrolides CANNOT cure asthma, they can only cure infections that have been MISDIAGNOSED as asthma. Many people who come to this group, like I once did, are looking for advice to deal with their newly diagnosed asthma. Jim and Dr Hahn's experience will help those who had infections, like I did, but for those adults with true and proper adult onset asthma macrolides will not help. If you have an ifection of Pneumonias (*C or *M by characteristic infiltrates) proven by a blood test (as mine was) swallow them macrolides and FAST! It doesn't even have to be the most expensive macrolides on the market even. I found Rulide worked best for me. It may not work that way for others. Jim's story saved my life. When I read it, I *knew* I had what he had. I had to push and push to get tested and when the results came back, my Dr was amazed. I WAS infected though, many people reading this group may not be. >>I took a friend who was Sob to the ER Friday and I want >>everyone to know [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > this > group may not be. Researchers would disagree with you. They say it IS asthma, and that asthma is caused by different things. In those cases where asthma was caused by bacteria, the asthma can be resolved once the bacteria has been eradicated. It's still considered asthma, however. >>I took a friend who was Sob to the ER Friday and I want >>everyone to know [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > cure > infections that have been MISDIAGNOSED as asthma. Also, if you cut and pasted the original post completely, then I'm confused by your last statement. Unless the doctor in ER treated the patient for twelve weeks on Azithromycin, or wrote a script for nine months to a years worth of Clarithromycin/Biaxin, then the doctor wasn't doing anything out of the norm and was merely treating for an acute infection - the treatment for which has been standard for years. |
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