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Ginseng and hype...

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ARoberts - 14 Jul 2003 08:30 GMT
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The Center For Science In the Public Interest:

"Numerous controlled clinical studies conducted over the past two decades
have not found that ginseng offers any significant benefit. Panax ginseng,
the most commonly available type, does not boost energy levels, mood, or
memory and doesn't reduce stress," says CSPI nutritionist David Schardt.
"What is most striking about ginseng is the amount of misinformation in ads
and on packages."

Michael Jacobson, executive director of CSPI, added, "With the supplement
industry burgeoning, it is important to both consumers and responsible
companies that claims be truthful. Deceptive claims will undermine public
confidence in the whole field of supplements, some of which provide real
benefits."

According to the Nutrition Action article, "Americans spend hundreds of
millions of dollars a year on ginseng in pills, tinctures, teas, chewing
gum, snack chips, and 'smart drinks.' And while the herb has been used for
thousands of years in Asia as a 'tonic,' studies in humans have failed to
turn up convincing evidence of any benefit."

Today, CSPI has sent complaints to the FDA and FTC urging those agencies to
investigate the labeling and advertising of ginseng products and to halt
false or misleading claims.
Dave - 14 Jul 2003 15:21 GMT
In the TRUE public interest

This is nothing more than a fabrication from members of the drug industry
who want to scam
the public into buying their drugs.  Where is there any scientific proof?
This would fit the true definition of quackery.

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> investigate the labeling and advertising of ginseng products and to halt
> false or misleading claims.
Ted Edwards - 14 Jul 2003 19:18 GMT

> The Center For Science In the Public Interest:
> ...
> gum, snack chips, and 'smart drinks.' And while the herb has been used for
> thousands of years in Asia as a 'tonic,' studies in humans have failed to
> turn up convincing evidence of any benefit."

Asian medicine has also used bear gall bladders and rhino horn and many
other pseudo-sexual "tonics".  Somewhere, somehow, there must be a few
Asian remedies that really work but I'll trust my doctor and chicken
soup over "Asian remedies" any day.

I still do use flax, though.  The omega 3 thing is pretty well
researched.

Ted
ARoberts - 15 Jul 2003 02:25 GMT
> > The Center For Science In the Public Interest:
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> Asian remedies that really work but I'll trust my doctor and chicken
> soup over "Asian remedies" any day.

Even enlightened Asians don't use TCM; they prefer Western medicine.  But
then they aren't condemned to legions of MLM blighters.

> I still do use flax, though.  The omega 3 thing is pretty well
> researched.
>
> Ted
Anth - 15 Jul 2003 21:03 GMT
Flax for cancer?
Anth

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> Ted
Adam - 17 Jul 2003 06:31 GMT
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>"What is most striking about ginseng is the amount of misinformation in ads
>and on packages."

Just catching up with the group and finding the various Ginsing/Dave
threads mildly amusing (as alwasy Dr. Bob takes the cake).

Just thought I'd add a useless non-sequiter:  A friend of mine who
loves to sell stuff on Ebay as a hobby was making a huge profit
selling Panax Ginseng.  He knows nothing about it, he just does
searches on Ebay for stuff that sells well or at a good margin.  The
thing about this stuff is, it's a long thin green box about about 12
or so tiny bottles.  Costs him a few dollars in Chinatown and he used
to sell it for 10-12 dollars.  Mostly folks from the midwest (guess
it's not widely available there?).  He got bored and is doing books he
finds at garage sales, but despite the small prices, a profit of a
couple of hundred percent per box is nothing to wheeze at.  So I
imagine Dave keeps coming back because just a few suckers and he's
making a bundle - a tiny bundle but a bundle nonetheless.

see ya,

adam
Richard Friedel - 17 Jul 2003 09:03 GMT
In some parts of Europe Aloe vera is all the rage. Its use like that of
ginseng might be due to a sound mistrust of medicalization.  Some are
forced into doing "something about their asthma" by social pressure and
slyly opt for some inactive substance to get by. By implication
scientific medicine should sweep before its own doorstep.

Stop the Internet being stifled by spam.

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