> Rae, I just read another response you posted regarding air pollution. Are
> you on primatene mist for your asthma? If so, you really should see a
> doctor who will prescribe decent medication, which will REALLY help you
> better manage your asthma symptoms.
> I didn't like taking meds then and still don't which is why I'm not
> using it. I keep the primatene mist around as an emergency.
I'm not going to argue the issues about steroids or prescription meds
unless you really want to discuss it - and I get the feeling that you
don't. But I have to pipe up here.
This makes no sense. If you don't want to take conventional meds that
is your choice - but you are not following that when you select
primatine. If you are going to make an exception it would be far
better to use a better med.
Sure, if you see a doc and are having more than occasional symptoms he
will advise you to take a steroid inhaler (and rinsing and/or
switching meds should stop the yeast problem BTW) but you are free to
ignore that advice. They would also prescribe a better rescue inhaler.
> When I got sick last time, even it hardly worked. But that just
> prompted me to continue to search for a natural cure. I just will
> not
> take meds.
But you are taking meds - just different ones.
Never mind, I promised I wouldn't argue the point so I'll stop there.
> So mine was apparently not bacteria related.
> There was no primatene mist back then either.
FWIW penicillin wouldn't treat the type of bacteria NSCEO is talking
about.
> I wonder what are the long term side affects of primatene mist? I'm
> not having to use it as much now with the nasal wash and breathing
> technique.
If you are using it less than twice a week then an inhaled steroid
would not be indicated and you probably don't need to worry about
getting hassled by the doc anyway.

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Rae - 18 Jun 2005 15:53 GMT
Thanks for your input.
What is in the rescue inhaler the doctor gave me? As I recall, it didn't
relieve the tightening as quickly as the primatene mist did. He gave me the
pulmicort and a rescue inhaler. And you didn't mention what if any were the
long term adverse affects of using primatene mist every day if you needed to
as opposed to the prescription rescue inhaler?
Thanks,
Rae
>> I didn't like taking meds then and still don't which is why I'm not
>> using it. I keep the primatene mist around as an emergency.
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> not be indicated and you probably don't need to worry about getting
> hassled by the doc anyway.
00doc - 18 Jun 2005 16:07 GMT
> Thanks for your input.
>
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> rescue
> inhaler?
It was probably albuterol but there are other possibilities.
Primatine is just epinephrine (aka adrenaline) plain and simple. It
works by activating the beta receptors in the lungs and causing the
airways to open up. However, it also goes to the heart and stimulates
the beta receptors there and causes it to beat ahrder and faster. The
albuterol stimulates the same beta receptors in the lung but much less
so the ones in the heart.
As for side effects. In the short term primatine will make you feel
more jittery and cause more heart pounding. The long term concern is
that overuse of albuterol has been associated with death. One theory
about why this is is that it cause heart ryhthm disturbances. Since
Primatine stimulates the heart so much more one would assume that
there may be an even greater risk.
Also, meds that block the caridac beta recptors have been shown to be
protective against arrythmias and heart attacks (and strokes). So one
might infer that stimulating them could have the opposite effects.
The problem is that since Primatine is OTC there are no records like
with prescription meds and so it is much harder to tease these issues
out. This is a general problem with all nonregulated compounds and one
reason why you should not assume "no news is good news" in terms of
adverse effects (or try to compare reported rates of adverse effects
between OTC and prescription meds). Sometimes no news is just no news.

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