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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / June 2005controlled my asthma...............
I'm new to your group, I've had asthma for over twenty years and my life was revolving around controlling it. I've seen my family repeatedly crying while praying I would not die as medical personnel worked to make me breathed normally again. With a Doctor that understood the disease "because he has it" gave me 2 drugs, SEREVENT AND FLOVENT... At first taking it twice a day; got my asthma under control after 5 years "no attacks" have cut down to taking my med's to once a day. No albuterol in all that time...... These drugs have been a God sent for me, but I realize everyone is different. I have hundreds of triggers, seen an allergist and she was shocked; that I could eat, inhale, or touch anything. The best thing in my life right now is I don't see that "look" of shock in my family's eyes. Signed, I have lost a lot because of asthma, but now I can breathe life again. Hope this helps someone. Ps sorry I'm so long winded in my posting... >I'm new to your group, I've had asthma for over twenty years and my life was >revolving around controlling it. I've seen my family repeatedly crying >while praying I would not die as medical personnel worked to make me >breathed normally again. >With a Doctor that understood the disease "because he has it" gave me 2 >drugs, SEREVENT AND FLOVENT... At first taking it twice a day; got my asthma >under control after 5 years "no attacks" have cut down to taking my med's to >once a day. No albuterol in all that time...... >These drugs have been a God sent for me, but I realize everyone is >different. I have hundreds of triggers, seen an allergist and she was >shocked; that I could eat, inhale, or touch anything. >I have lost a lot because of asthma, but now I can breathe life again. Hope >this helps someone. >Ps sorry I'm so long winded in my posting I am glad that you have found a way to manage your asthma. As you have noted, this is an individual process, and certain combinations of meds can work wonders. The goal is to reduce or eliminate the need for rescue medications. Re your P.S.: When it comes to asthma, "long-winded" is a good thing. > I am glad that you have found a way to manage your asthma. As you have > noted, this is an individual process, and certain combinations of meds > can work wonders. The goal is to reduce or eliminate the need for > rescue medications. If you can find your Hidden (delayed) Food Allergies, you may not need any medication at all. Talk to a naturopathic doctor. Certain allergist can explain Delayed Food Allergies too. Brad_Chad >> I am glad that you have found a way to manage your asthma. As you have >> noted, this is an individual process, and certain combinations of meds [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Brad_Chad And of course, you could try reality. This is a quotation from the National Jewish Medical & Research Center, the world's most highly regarded center for asthma research: Food Allergies Food allergies rarely make asthma worse. Common food allergies include nuts, eggs, milk, seafood and peanuts. Food allergies are more common in children ages five and under. If you suspect that certain foods are causing problems, they can be removed from your diet. However, it is very important that diet changes be made only when there is strong evidence that these foods are causing problems. If food allergies are a concern, consider an evaluation by a board certified allergist. This specialist can correlate the information from a detailed diet history, allergy (skin) testing and food challenges, if needed. Because it is possible for a person to have a positive skin test to food even though it is not playing a role in causing symptoms, radical changes in diet should not be made based on skin testing alone. http://asthma.nationaljewish.org/about/relationships/allergies.php > > If you can find your Hidden (delayed) Food Allergies, you may not > > need any medication at all. Talk to a naturopathic doctor. Certain [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Jewish Medical & Research Center, the world's most highly regarded center > for asthma research: I live in reality, you are the one living in a fantasy. My former allergist treated many asthmatics by finding their Hidden Food Allergies. You need to do more research. Some allergy test give false positives, and other allergy test give false negatives. Allergists often skip many of the important allergy tests because of their costs. You can't find what you don't look for. I have read several books, written by doctors, about how Delayed Food Allergies can trigger asthma, eczema, and chronic urticaria. One author is a Professor of Allergy and Environmental Health at University College London Medical School. I'm sure that means nothing to you. My asthma never came back after I removed my Hidden Food Allergies (corn and dairy). Food can work with airborne particles to trigger asthma, and in some cases food can work alone. There is still too much that is not known about asthma. Brad_Chad >> > If you can find your Hidden (delayed) Food Allergies, you may not >> > need any medication at all. Talk to a naturopathic doctor. Certain [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > often skip many of the important allergy tests because of their costs. > You can't find what you don't look for. I'm glad that it worked for you. In the vast majority of people with asthma, food allergies play no role. The people at National Jewish aren't just local allergists; they research deeply into the mechanisms of asthma, and when they, Mayo Clinic and other top asthma research centers say that food allergies are relatively insignicant in asthma, I believe them because they support it with research. If you have a peer-reviewed study in a reputable medical journal that says otherwise, please post it. > I'm glad that it worked for you. In the vast majority of people with > asthma, food allergies play no role. The people at National Jewish aren't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > peer-reviewed study in a reputable medical journal that says otherwise, > please post it. It is for this reason that I tell people to study this topic a little deeper. I don't have time to explain everything. According to orthodox medicine, only about 1 or 2 percent of people have actual food allergies (according to their definition of allergy). Other food reactions are called "intolerances". Allergies and intolerances can cause many of the same problems (like migraines), although some allergy sufferers can have life-threatening reactions. Intolerances are harder to detect than allergies. When I say Delayed Food Allergies, some doctors would call it an intolerance. Most doctors look for immediate food allergies in their offices. They all involve food. Ask these doctors whether food intolerances can trigger asthma. It is sleight of hand really. Food intolerances are a lot more common than 1 or 2 percent. Brad_Chad It is for this reason that I tell people to study this topic a little deeper. I don't have time to explain everything. According to orthodox medicine, only about 1 or 2 percent of people have actual food allergies (according to their definition of allergy). Other food reactions are called "intolerances". Allergies and intolerances can cause many of the same problems (like migraines), although some allergy sufferers can have life-threatening reactions. Intolerances are harder to detect than allergies. When I say Delayed Food Allergies, some doctors would call it an intolerance. Most doctors look for immediate food allergies in their offices. They all involve food. Ask these doctors whether food intolerances can trigger asthma. It is sleight of hand really. Food intolerances are a lot more common than 1 or 2 percent. Brad_Chad Food allergies have been studied deeply, and that is where the 1 or 2 percent figure comes from. How did you arrive at the conclusion that this is incorrect? Do you have a peer-reviewed study that contradicts their findings? If so, could you please post it here? Thanks aroberts, I just explained it. 1 or 2 percent is for a certain type of food sensitivity (IgE food allergy). This is why I said that you should study food allergies deeper. The impression that only 1 or 2 percent of people is having some type of food reaction is false. I'm talking about labels. If your joints ache because someone says that you have an allergy to wheat, does it matter whether another doctor says that you have a wheat intolerance? You are supposed to stay away from wheat either way. Do you see what I mean by sleight of hand? Far more than 1 or 2 percent have a problem with food, yet doctors beat people over the head with the IgE portion of people with food sensitivities. Brad_Chad aroberts, I just explained it. 1 or 2 percent is for a certain type of food sensitivity (IgE food allergy). This is why I said that you should study food allergies deeper. The impression that only 1 or 2 percent of people is having some type of food reaction is false. I'm talking about labels. If your joints ache because someone says that you have an allergy to wheat, does it matter whether another doctor says that you have a wheat intolerance? You are supposed to stay away from wheat either way. Do you see what I mean by sleight of hand? Far more than 1 or 2 percent have a problem with food, yet doctors beat people over the head with the IgE portion of people with food sensitivities. Brad_Chad Yes, I understood your explanation. I just wanted to see some citations that support what you are saying. You're right, much of this comes down to semantics, and that's why it would be good to see some of the studies that support these contentions. They are more specific and useful than anecdotal information, both in methodology and terms. Thanks. > Yes, I understood your explanation. I just wanted to see some > citations that support what you are saying. You're right, much of this > comes down to semantics, and that's why it would be good to see some of > the studies that support these contentions. They are more specific and > useful than anecdotal information, both in methodology and terms. > Thanks. You don't understand squat, aroberts. Nobody wants to do all these large scale studies that you want. I really don't understand why it is necessary. It may be necessary for a jerk like you, but for most people it is really not important. It would be important if I was talking about something dangerous, or something that cost a lot of money or time. Taking a few days to find your Hidden Food Allergies is not going to ruin your life. It will possibly make your life better than you ever dreamed. My energy level skyrocketed, and my skin looks years younger. You can read books like, "Food Allergies and Food Intolerance" by Dr. Jonathan Brostoff; or "Dr. Braly's Food Allergy and Nutrition Revolution". Maybe they will give you the type of info you need. People like you get on my nerve. I didn't need a lot of studies when I told people that it would be better that they quit smoking. I don't see why I need all these studies for you. I've written to people in other groups that told me that they suspected food sensitivities were behind their psoriasis, eczema, or whatever. I've had people thank me when they notice a significant improvement in their health. My former allergist (board certified) says that he has helped many people over the years with health problems that couldn't be treated by other doctors. My naturopathic doctor says the same thing. It is not like finding a needle in a haystack when you try to find people who benefit from this. It is like finding a needle in a haystack when you try to find people who will get off their behind and try it. I'm getting tired of all the excuses people have for not doing something for a few days that may change the rest of your life. My health would be a lot worse right now if I made excuses. I had to try it because my fatigue was unbearable. You are unbearable. Give it a rest. Brad_Chad . Taking a few days to find your Hidden Food Allergies is not going > to ruin your life. No, but it is probably a waste of your time and money. If you believe the studies that is. Which you clearly don't . Joy > . Taking a few days to find your Hidden Food Allergies is not going > > to ruin your life. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Joy There are many false studies out here. Which one are you referring to? I actually spent ONE day without dairy products before I noticed a HUGE change in my health. Most people will probably take a few more days. You need a minimum of 3 days to be sure (if you guess the right foods). It took me a while longer to find my hidden food allergy to corn (corn syrup, corn starch), but I knew I was onto something because of my experience with dairy. A few days changing your diet, so that you can have better health for DECADES of your life. It seems like a bargain to me. It worked for me, and many others. Talk to a naturopathic doctor. Read some books about it (written by doctors). Brad_Chad > There are many false studies out here. Which one are you referring to? I thought you were the one questioning the studies. > I actually spent ONE day without dairy products before I noticed a HUGE > change in my health. Most people will probably take a few more days. Most of us are aware of the diary one and have already tried that. > You need a minimum of 3 days to be sure (if you guess the right foods). > It took me a while longer to find my hidden food allergy to corn (corn [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Brad_Chad The problem is that there are many books written by Doctors which haven't panned out. "The Yeast Connection" comes to mind. My guess is you were lucky to be in the right 1 or 2 percent. Joy > > There are many false studies out here. Which one are you referring to? > > I thought you were the one questioning the studies. I have no idea what you mean by this. I was asking that people be more specific when they refer to a study because many of them are bogus. > > I actually spent ONE day without dairy products before I noticed a HUGE > > change in my health. Most people will probably take a few more days. > > Most of us are aware of the diary one and have already tried that. I never emphasized dairy. I just stated that it happened to be one of the foods that I'm allergic to. > > You need a minimum of 3 days to be sure (if you guess the right foods). > > It took me a while longer to find my hidden food allergy to corn (corn [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Joy Why do people have such a hard time understanding this? I said that allergist may have a strict interpretation of the term "allergy". The allergy that they may be referring to is an IgE allergy. They may refer to other types of food reactions as a food intolerance. I said that I don't have an IgE allergy to corn or dairy. IgE is 1 or 2 percent. I have some type of food sensitivity that is not being picked up by conventional allergy tests. That is why I called it a Hidden Food Allergy. Non-IgE food sensitivities make up much more than 1 or 2 percent of the population. IgE is easily detected by allergist, so they brag that food allergies are a very small problem. Food sensitivities in general is a very large problem. Brad_Chad > > > There are many false studies out here. Which one are you referring to? > > > > I thought you were the one questioning the studies. > > I have no idea what you mean by this. I was asking that people be more > specific when they refer to a study because many of them are bogus. Ok So be specific. Which one is bogus. > > > I actually spent ONE day without dairy products before I noticed a HUGE > > > change in my health. Most people will probably take a few more days. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I never emphasized dairy. I just stated that it happened to be one of > the foods that I'm allergic to. Well, I personally went on a complete elimination diet without any result. So you are saying if someone were to fast for 3 days and not get better, their problem isn't food allergy. > > > You need a minimum of 3 days to be sure (if you guess the right foods). > > > It took me a while longer to find my hidden food allergy to corn (corn [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > brag that food allergies are a very small problem. Food sensitivities > in general is a very large problem. Food allergy is not a big problem from what I have read. It may have been your problem and so you are sensitized to it. But you have yet to prove that there are any bogus studies (you know, the ones that say you are in the 1 or 2 percent). You have YET to produce any proof other than your word. I could claim you are totally wrong, but without proof, NO ONE would listen. Joy > > > > There are many false studies out here. Which one are you referring > to? [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > Joy Maybe you should have researched "food intolerance" as I tried to get you to do earlier. The terms allergy and intolerance are defined differently by different doctors. If you researched it, like you should, you would see that it is a very big problem. Maybe you should read, "Food Allergies and Food Intolerance" by Dr. Jonathan Brostoff. He explains the whole situation thoroughly. Brad_Chad >You don't understand squat, aroberts. Nobody wants to do all these ?large scale studies that you want. I really don't understand why it is >necessary. You're absolutely right of course. Why involve science, when you can have magic and guesswork? > My health would be a lot worse right now if I made excuses. You just made excuses about why you can't support your illusions and made-up claims with citations. Gezundheit. You keep posting the same, tired, rubber-stamp junk from the same book over and over. You must be a shill for the publisher, or the most willfully ignorant person to post here, since you can't produce even one citation that supports your random utterances. You are a one-man cult. > >You don't understand squat, aroberts. Nobody wants to do all these > ?large scale studies that you want. I really don't understand why it is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You're absolutely right of course. Why involve science, when you can > have magic and guesswork? I don't need a study to PROVE to me that smoking causes cancer. You, on the other hand, need a study to justify wiping your behind. > > My health would be a lot worse right now if I made excuses. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You are a one-man cult. I can't believe that someone must have a study to justify trying such a simple and inexpensive thing. You have got to be geek of the year. Brad_Chad >> >You don't understand squat, aroberts. Nobody wants to do all these >> ?large scale studies that you want. I really don't understand why it is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I don't need a study to PROVE to me that smoking causes cancer. Not now, you don't. It's common knowledge today because a generation ago, studies were performed to make that connection. >> You are a one-man cult. > > I can't believe that someone must have a study to justify trying such a > simple and inexpensive thing. You have got to be geek of the year. Lots of things are simple and inexpensive--and useless. You can't produce a shred of evidence to support anything that you say. Until you do, that makes you the geek--and deluded. >I'm new to your group, I've had asthma for over twenty years and my life was >revolving around controlling it. I've seen my family repeatedly crying >while praying I would not die as medical personnel worked to make me >breathed normally again. >With a Doctor that understood the disease "because he has it" gave me 2 >drugs, SEREVENT AND FLOVENT... At first taking it twice a day; got my asthma >under control after 5 years "no attacks" have cut down to taking my med's to >once a day. No albuterol in all that time...... >These drugs have been a God sent for me, but I realize everyone is >different. I have hundreds of triggers, seen an allergist and she was >shocked; that I could eat, inhale, or touch anything. >I have lost a lot because of asthma, but now I can breathe life again. Hope >this helps someone. >Ps sorry I'm so long winded in my posting I am glad that you have found a way to manage your asthma. As you have noted, this is an individual process, and certain combinations of meds can work wonders. The goal is to reduce or eliminate the need for rescue medications. Re your P.S.: When it comes to asthma, "long-winded" is a good thing. |
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