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I have been taking Replenex, Melaleuca's glucosamine product since it was

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Robert Hanson - 12 Oct 2004 02:54 GMT
Passed along from Robert and Nichole Hanson

Please keep in mind after reading the product story below - our
Replenex is now better than ever and for a short time l/2 off the
normal price --  $9.98 and 8 bps - stock up this month! Here is a
great product story thanks to Dr. McCullough...Vicki
Re: Glucosamine... Replenex

I have been taking Replenex, Melaleuca's glucosamine product since it
was first introduced in January 1996.  Personally I have had results
far better than I ever expected from the consistent use of Replenex.  
As a chiropractor, I am aware of many patient success cases from
Replenex and through my email network group I am aware of many more
success cases. Everytime I hear one of those "unbelievable" cases that
just can't be matched, a better success story comes along.  Allow me
to share one of these unbelievable cases with you.

Michael McCullough, D.C.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
William Kemp, a 62 year old air-conditioning maintenance man for the
City of Boise was first treated at my office on October 30, 1987 for
left shoulder and arm pain. He slipped and fell on the ice at work in
1985 and was still experiencing problems.  He eventually had two
shoulder surgeries that left him with chronic shoulder pain and
restricted movement.  As a result of another injury Mr. Kemp had
lowback surgery involving five lumbar disc herniations in 1997.
Shortly after the lowback surgery he had to have another lower back
surgery for another disc rupture.  As he described his chronic pain
and disability since these surgeries. "I could not function after
these surgeries.  I could not walk, sleep, drive the car over 20 miles
without intense pain. I could not work and I was ready to retire in
January 2002 because I couldn't work."

From 1997, after his surgeries, Mr. Kemp was not treated in my office
again until September 26, 2001.  He walked into my office without an
appointment seeking any type of relief due to his intense lowback
pain, burning leg pain and shoulder pain.  I treated Mr. Kemp with
gentle traction and soft tissue manipulation without any hope of
improving his long-standing chronic pain.  I informed him that I did
not feel that my treatment would be of benefit. My treatment did not
provide him with any relief.  I strongly recommended that he start
taking glucosamine to help prevent his condition from getting worse
than it already was.  As in the past when I recommended  to Mr. Kemp,
he failed to follow my advice.  In the early 1990's Mr. Kemp was a
Melaleuca Preferred Customer and closed his account because he didn't
want to have to use Melaleuca every month.  Mr. Kemp is one of the
most "outspoken" individuals that I have yet to meet and he did not
follow my advice to use ANY companies glucosamine.

Since last treating Mr. Kemp in September 2001 I had not heard from
him until January 15, 2002 when he called to inform me that he was
feeling great, working and was without any pain. Needless to say I
thought he was either lying to me or on drugs (prescription).  I asked
him what he had been doing or who he had seen to be feeling so well.
He said that he went to an acupuncturist after seeing me last and the
acupuncturist gave him two bottles of pills to take.  As he explained
to me, he didn't take the pills for a number of weeks later until
after his wife confronted him  and demanded that he start taking them.
Mr. Kemp's belief was that this was just another one of those deals
where he was being sold a bill of goods again. With pressure from his
wife and with nothing to lose he started taking the capsules in the
bottle. As he explained to me,  "After taking the first bottle, I
started noticing that I was feeling much better and wasn't hurting as
bad, and thought well, I'll finish taking the  another bottle.   About
midway through the 2nd bottle I really noticed the difference.  When I
ran out of the pills I looked on the back of the bottle to see where I
could get some more of this Replenex.  That's when I saw the Melaleuca
label and called Dr. McCullough."

" I am now jogging, dancing and jumping rope without pain whatsoever,
and to me it is a miracle. Now I am thanking Dr. McCullough and I
don't plan on retiring as soon."

William Phillip Kemp

Comments:

Due to time and space I left a lot of information out.  Mr. Kemp
agreed to share his story with everyone or I refused to get him some
more Replenex. Yes, Mr. Kemp will be enrolling in Melaleuca if he
wants to get any more Replenex.  I let him buy a bottle from me so
that he wouldn't  run out. I would like to make a few comments

1. I had Mr. Kemp come to my office. I would never have believed his
claims without doing an examination. I was amazed at his ability to
complete all orthopedic tests without any pain. In fact I was more
than surprised because all of his doctors and employers had given up
on him.

2. Keep in mind that not everyone is going to respond as dramatic as
Mr. Kemp.

3. I am excited to see how he is going to respond to the New Improved
Replenex formulation.

4. All glucosamines are not of the same quality, same freshness or
supplythe listed amount in the bottle.  At this time I am still
convinced that Glucosamine HCL is the purist form of Glucosamine.  I
am pleased that Melaleuca did not bend to the pressures of those who
think that chondroitins and MSM are necessary.  The three new
ingredients: Bromelain, Ginger Root Ext. and Green Tea Extract will be
a powerful improvement to Replenex.

5. I am convinced beyond a doubt that anyone who is not taking
glucosamine over the age of 40 and in many cases even younger will
wish they would have been taking it in a few more years.  I am more
than surprised that Melaleuca included three more ingredients and did
not raise the price!  Not to mention cutting the price in half as an
introductory special.

6. Please Contact me if you want More Info teamwellness@iglide.net
or 413-592-2672 or toll free 1-866-209-3638
Janet R - 12 Oct 2004 06:00 GMT
OH Harv....Kitty.....where are you?  Com'on out and play!

<veg>
Janet R

| Passed along from Robert and Nichole Hanson
|
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| 6. Please Contact me if you want More Info teamwellness@iglide.net
| or 413-592-2672 or toll free 1-866-209-3638
Harvey R. Stone - 12 Oct 2004 18:22 GMT
> OH Harv....Kitty.....where are you?  Com'on out and play!
>
> <veg>
> Janet R

LOL,,, I do not always post the fact that a person is being reported for
advertising.   Your help is needed also.   What I mean is for you to report
them also but thanks for the kick in the butt....  lOLOL
Harv
Janet R - 13 Oct 2004 01:29 GMT
I would be glad to do so....but I don't understand  how you find out
where to send the complaints.  I am willing to learn!

Janet R

| > OH Harv....Kitty.....where are you?  Com'on out and play!
| >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
| them also but thanks for the kick in the butt....  lOLOL
| Harv
Paul T. Holland - 13 Oct 2004 18:23 GMT
since spammy has chosen to actually become an email troll over this (at
least with me - lol) why not send to all associated with his little game?:

webmaster@iGlide.net
abuse@iglide.net
domadm@MELALEUCA.COM
webmaster@melaleuca.com
admin@pacificnet.net
abuse@level3.com
groups-abuse@google.com

perhaps then, he and his fellow spammer wife, will get the message that
this is not acceptable.

be well

paul

> I would be glad to do so....but I don't understand  how you find out
> where to send the complaints.  I am willing to learn!
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> | them also but thanks for the kick in the butt....  lOLOL
> | Harv
Janet R - 13 Oct 2004 19:00 GMT
tis done!

Janet R

| since spammy has chosen to actually become an email troll over this (at
| least with me - lol) why not send to all associated with his little game?:
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
| > | them also but thanks for the kick in the butt....  lOLOL
| > | Harv
Kitty Kelly - 12 Oct 2004 09:00 GMT
There is a no selling rule at MHA, according to it's charter.  You are
being reported.

Kitty
Paul T. Holland - 12 Oct 2004 20:14 GMT
posting spam is prohibited in this newsgroup by usenet charter, therefor all should feel free to report him - and his wifey poo nicole - for abuse:

abuse@level3.com
groups-abuse@google.com

and, since the spammers email addy is for 'iglide' and that is:

iglide.net
Registrant:
Melaleuca, Inc (IGLIDE4-DOM)
3910 South Yellowstone Hwy
Idaho Falls, ID 83402
US
Domain Name: IGLIDE.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Melaleuca, Inc.  (DA20661-OR)  domadm@MELALEUCA.COM
3910 S YELLOWSTONE HWY
IDAHO FALLS, ID 83402-4342
US
208-522-0700 fax: 208-535-2320
Record expires on 02-Jun-2012.
Record created on 02-Jun-2000.
Bulk whois optout: N
Database last updated on 12-Oct-2004 13:17:12 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NORTH.PACIFICNET.NET         207.171.0.10
SOUTH.PACIFICNET.NET         207.171.0.9

terms of use from the iglide site:

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let's add in :

webmaster@iGlide.net
domadm@MELALEUCA.COM
webmaster@melaleuca.com
admin@pacificnet.net

you may also call  free to complain:

Melaleuca, Inc.
3910 S. Yellowstone Hwy
Idaho Falls, ID
83402 U.S.
TEL: (208) 522-0700

Toll-Free TEL: 1-800-742-2444
Toll-Free FAX: 1-888-528-2090
Melaleuca, Inc.
3910 S. Yellowstone Hwy
Idaho Falls, ID
83402 U.S.
TEL: (208) 522-0700
Sales and Customer Service
1-800-282-3000
M-F 6am- 10pm Sat. 7am - 5pm
Enroll New Customers 1-800-262-0600
M-F 6am - 10pm Sat. 8am - 5pm
The Services Center Support
1-800-742-2444
M-F 6am - 6pm Sat. 7am - 5pm

now, the hanson's are a team and it seems that good old nicole has already been reported for 'email' spamming ((dialup-4.156.132.136.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net [4.156.132.136])) her 'athometeam' spam business and trying to recruit more suckers:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V28753289

and lest one think this pair are newbies to it all, know that they have their own little store in chicopee,  western massachusetts:

'winning with herbs'
92 nonotuck ave.
robert and nicole hanson
business certificate issued/renewed april, 2003

here's the full spam:

Path:
                        nwrddc03.gnilink.net!cyclone2.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news.glorb.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail
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                        teamwellness@iglide.net (Robert Hanson)
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                        I have been taking Replenex, Melaleuca's glucosamine product since it was
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> Passed along from Robert and Nichole Hanson
>
[quoted text clipped - 108 lines]
> 6. Please Contact me if you want More Info teamwellness@iglide.net
> or 413-592-2672 or toll free 1-866-209-3638
Paul T. Holland - 12 Oct 2004 22:29 GMT
spammy thinks he has an arguement to make - sent me two separate one line emails to dispute:

>you have nothing better to do

>And This is Not advertisment this is testomonial

needless to say, both have been forwarded to his isp...

gadds but spammers are sooooo dumb - but what the heck, if he want s to play, i'll play!

lololol
Paul T. Holland - 12 Oct 2004 22:40 GMT
this one is way to tightly wrapped! lololol

the latest from hanson:

>I bet your a fag
----- Original Message -----

think it's an adverse reaction to taking his own products?????

paul

> spammy thinks he has an arguement to make - sent me two separate one line emails to dispute:
>
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>
> lololol
Kitty Kelly - 14 Oct 2004 07:13 GMT
~~~~I bet your a fag~~~~~

He thinks cigarettes can type?

Quack - Quack - Quack

-bseg-

Kitty
Paul T. Holland - 15 Oct 2004 01:20 GMT
yes, but very, very, slowly - and those little bits of tobacco keep
falling out and eventually the spaces between the keys fill up - then,
with the heat of the exchange, the whole thing goes 'up in smoke' -
kinda like his whole rationale...quack back!

> ~~~~I bet your a fag~~~~~
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Kitty
Kitty Kelly - 15 Oct 2004 04:48 GMT
Paul wrote -

~~~yes, but very, very, slowly - and those little bits of tobacco keep
falling out and eventually the spaces between the keys fill up - then,
with the heat of the exchange, the whole thing goes 'up in smoke' -
kinda like his whole rationale...quack back!~~~

ROFL!!!

Damn, I love a man that can catch a volley!

-vbg-

Ktty
Harvey R. Stone - 15 Oct 2004 18:55 GMT
Paul wrote -

~~~yes, but very, very, slowly - and those little bits of tobacco keep
falling out and eventually the spaces between the keys fill up - then,
with the heat of the exchange, the whole thing goes 'up in smoke' -
kinda like his whole rationale...quack back!~~~

ROFL!!!

Damn, I love a man that can catch a volley!

-vbg-

Ktty

or a woman,,,,,,  a rare woman.

Harv
Paul T. Holland - 15 Oct 2004 20:23 GMT
lololol - missed you too!

> Paul wrote -
>
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>
> Ktty
Kitty Kelly - 14 Oct 2004 08:03 GMT
~~~~gadds but spammers are sooooo dumb - but what the heck, if he want s
to play, i'll play!
~~~~Paul

...hehehehe....

Remember, they're better crispy!
Paul T. Holland - 15 Oct 2004 01:20 GMT
you take the one on the right?

> ~~~~gadds but spammers are sooooo dumb - but what the heck, if he want s
> to play, i'll play!
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Remember, they're better crispy!
Kitty Kelly - 15 Oct 2004 04:53 GMT

Paul wrote -

~~~~gadds but spammers are sooooo dumb - but what the heck, if he want s
to play, i'll play!

Kitty wrote -

..hehehehe....
Remember, they're better crispy!

Paul wrote -

you take the one on the right?

I wouldn't have it any other way!

-vbseg-

Kitty
Kitty Kelly - 14 Oct 2004 07:59 GMT

~~~Passed along from Robert and Nichole Hanson~~~~~~

So, are we supposed to pass it on to Craig and Barbra or Steve and Edie?

~~~~Please keep in mind after reading the product story below~~~

You keep in mind there is no selling here.  I got your e-mail saying you
weren't selling anything.  Posting prices and directing people to
commercial sites is advertising, even if you don't make a dime off it.

~~~our XXXXXX is now better than ever and for a short time l/2 off the
normal price/~~~~~

Sneaky way to get rid of the old sh.t!

~~~stock up this month!~~~~

I'm saving my money for Disney World!

~~~~Here is a great product story~~~~

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

~~~~I have been taking XXXXXX glucosamine since it was first introduced
in January 1996. Personally I have had results far better than I ever
expected from the consistent use~~~~~~

Good for you, but you still can't sell it here.

~~~~As a chiropractor,~~~~

sh.t, it figures.

~~~~~I am aware of many patient success cases from Replenex and through
my email network group I am aware of many more success cases. Everytime
I hear one of those "unbelievable" cases that just can't be matched, a
better success story comes along.~~~~~

Ten bucks says if you try hard enough, you can work 'success' into the
paragraph 3 more times!

~~~~Allow me to share one of these unbelievable cases with you~~~~

ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Not only are you advertising a commercial site, by announcing that
you're a DC, or quack as I call them, and posting your office phone
numbers, you're trolling for patients.  That isn't allowed either.

-g-

Kitty
Paul T. Holland - 15 Oct 2004 01:25 GMT
i think this one needs some shin guards!

> ~~~Passed along from Robert and Nichole Hanson~~~~~~
>
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>
> Kitty
 
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