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USA and other countries should ban importation of Ayurvedic medications  that pose health risk

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bdixit - 04 Oct 2004 16:01 GMT
   There have been confirmed reports
(<http://www.cdc.gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5326a3.htm>) of certain
Ayurvedic preparations imported from India that have caused serious
health problems. These medications are being manufactured in India and
imported in USA. They are being consumed without proper medical advice
or quality control. Such importation should be banned by the respective
governments.  There is now increased interest in importing other types
of Ayurvedic medications under the guise of, " Alternative Therapies."
This is being done for making big profits since "Alternative Therapies"
are becoming more and more popular. This is a dangerous practice. Most
of the Ayurvedic medicines are prepared by the methods that were
established hundreds of years ago. The same methods are even used today.
These methods have poor quality control, and those who manufacture these
medications are not using tests that can easily detect presence of heavy
metals and other toxic substances.  Now some of these Ayurvedic
medications are being sold "online"  (e.g. <www.Herbal-Provider.com> and
<www.herbalremedies.com>). It would be appropriate for the Western
countries to ban the importation of these types of medications, most of
which have been tested clinically in statistically validated human
patient trials for their effectiveness.  There are other significant
problems that are posed by use of Ayurvedic medications that are often
sold "over-the-counter" form and these can interact with other
prescribed medications. For information see
(<http://www.jpgmonline.com/article.asp?issn=0022-3859;year=1993;volume=39;issue=4
;spage=179;epage=82,182a;aulast=Thatte
>).
Claim that "Ayurvedic Samskaras" convert extremely toxic substances into
useful medicines is also unsubstantiated.
(<http://www.jpgmonline.com/article.asp?issn=0022-3859;year=1991;volume=37;issue=3
;spage=157;epage=9;aulast=Thorat
>)
......Balwant N. Dixit, Professor of Pharmacology, University of
Pittsburgh
Virendra Verma - 04 Oct 2004 19:06 GMT
> There have been confirmed reports
> (<http://www.cdc.gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5326a3.htm>) of certain
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> or quality control. Such importation should be banned by the respective
> governments.  

There shouldn't be any problem for India since it is now governed by
loonies. As far as USA is concerned, this is not the right forum to
make such a request. May be you should join Bush or Kerry's compaign
and push your Indian loony views against Hindus. Pakis will be more
than happy to fund your venture. Good luck!!!
bdixit - 04 Oct 2004 19:17 GMT
   I just realized that you are one of those loonies. Think of it, that
may be a very mild term to describe you. .....Balwant Dixit
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri - 08 Oct 2004 13:31 GMT
Talking about yourself again Ball Want Dick sh.t!

>     I just realized that you are one of those loonies. Think of it, that
> may be a very mild term to describe you. .....Balwant Dixit
Virendra Verma - 04 Oct 2004 22:41 GMT
NSA, Mr Dixit and the loony govt should be working on to handle
troubled NE region rather than witch hunting for harmless NDA and
Hindu leaders. Mr. B. Dixit, don't spend your energy on bashing
Hindus, look at how venerable India has become since loony govt came
into power!!! If you really love India, fight her real enemies.

The Tribune editorial
India as dustbin
Alas, anything can be dumped here

Once again, India's import regulatory mechanism stands exposed.
Whether it is the disease-infected blood or live missiles and bombs,
anything can be brought into this country. The meaning of
liberalisation, it seems, has been stretched rather too far. One need
not this time accuse the security forces of laxity in plugging the
unauthorised channels in a porous international border. Frequent
reports of human trafficking and drug smuggling have ceased to
surprise. Tainted blood, bombs, mortar and missiles are the latest
additions to the import agenda. And these were not secretly slipped
into the country. The cargoes came through recognised, legal channels.

As Ghaziabad exploded, experts immediately got busy expressing their
outrage on TV channels at security lapses. Caught unawares, the
government, however, failed to piece together a convincing explanation
to a dismayed nation. The country also has a National Security
Adviser, who, instead of coming out with a fact-based reasonable
reaction, opted to take on the TV experts for sensationalising the
issue. Like its control set-up, the government's response system too
has been a letdown. The truth is no one seems to know for how long
such imports as the deadly consignment from Iran have been coming into
the country.

What is not in doubt is that India has emerged as a convenient dumping
ground for all types of waste, specially emanating from the developed
world. There is hardly any agency to check the toxicity of the
imported material. Small wonder, drugs and chemicals, banned in the
West, are in circulation here. The entry into the country of the
obnoxious congress grass should have alerted the government long ago
to be vigilant to such dangers in future and put in place a reliable
mechanism to ensure a strict check on undesirable imports.
Liberalisation does not mean free for all for companies. The Ghaziabad
episode should impel the government to fortify its regulatory
mechanism.
Balwant Dixit - 05 Oct 2004 01:58 GMT
   The more you write, obvious it becomes that you have no clue what
you are writing about.  May be you should show what you write to someone
in an elementary school before you post it.  You should get an award for
irrelevancy of your thoughts and comments.  But please do not take any
"Ayurvedic brain tonics", or "Churnas" or "Bhasmas" since some of them
might spoil your thinking further. Good luck in your efforts to protect
Hindus and India. You should justify your name name "Virendra" by your
actions.......BND
harmony - 05 Oct 2004 15:52 GMT
i talked this over with a friend who is a leading cancer researcher at md
anderson institute in houston which is the premier institute on cancer of
world repute. according to him the cancer research community is paying a
great deal of attention to ayurveda on many of the ageing related disorders,
including arthritis, for cures. accordingly, you did not get lucky in
working for aurvedic scholars of repute. may be your just a sleazy character
who gets into sleazy company.
yours is the story of commie - a filthy mind in filthy company. sorry.

>     The more you write, obvious it becomes that you have no clue what
> you are writing about.  May be you should show what you write to someone
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Hindus and India. You should justify your name name "Virendra" by your
> actions.......BND
bdixit - 05 Oct 2004 16:46 GMT
Your friend needs to be more careful in making such unsubstantiated
statements.  Sure. Many scientists are looking at  Ayurvedic, Chinese,
Egyptian, Nigerian, Ghanian American Indian, South American Indian
medicinal "cures" to learn more about these.  But those efforts are a
part of scientific inquiry as it should be.  Your friend may be a great
cancer researcher but I do not think that has any clue when he says (or
you say that he says) that "cancer research community is paying a great
deal of attention to ayurveda on many of the aging related disorders,
including arthritis, for cures."  Just ak him to list Ayurvedic
medications that he has found to "cure" specific type of cancers. If he
gives you a list please publish it on this NG.  Otherwise it is just
balony....BND
harmony - 05 Oct 2004 17:13 GMT
your are just a jealous anti-hindu commie who gets no recognition among
hindus; so what you do. like a charred defecting convert to an anti-hindu
"religion", you bash everything that has "hindu" written on it.

my friend is not only a research scholar of international repute (even the
nobel laureates in the field send him thank you letters), he is one of the
most sought speakers at leading universities world wide on this. he has
published numerous papers, and most likely will write a book too. He talks
about a mad rush that's been going on in usa to quickly patent ayurvedic
things on the sleight. ayurveda has no competetion, much to your dismal
claims, and the degree of research is at a very high level attracting a lot
of $$$$.  in elvis' words, you ain't but a sleazy hound dog.

> Your friend needs to be more careful in making such unsubstantiated
> statements.  Sure. Many scientists are looking at  Ayurvedic, Chinese,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> gives you a list please publish it on this NG.  Otherwise it is just
> balony....BND
bdixit - 05 Oct 2004 17:41 GMT
   I do not care what you call me and how famous is your friend and how
many letters he gets from all the NL in the world. They are meaningless
if he or you cannot substantiate your statement with facts.  The terms
you are using to address me only indicates that you have no logical
arguments to make.  Just ask your friend to produce a list of "Ayurvedic
medicines" that have been found to cure specific types of cancers.
Otherwise it is all balony....BND
harmony - 05 Oct 2004 17:53 GMT
>     I do not care what you call me and how famous is your friend and how
> many letters he gets from all the NL in the world.

of course, you don't. you are a commie.

>They are meaningless
> if he or you cannot substantiate your statement with facts.

he has, dummy. you think he would be invited world wide if he couldn't?

>The terms
> you are using to address me only indicates that you have no logical
> arguments to make.

let's just say that we ain't going to worry about commies.

>Just ask your friend to produce a list of "Ayurvedic
> medicines" that have been found to cure specific types of cancers.

if you like you can BUY his published papers. buying is a difficult concept
for commies, accustomed to unloading on poor peasants, right?

> Otherwise it is all balony....BND

a good commie is an ignorant commie; let's just keep it that way.
bdixit - 05 Oct 2004 18:28 GMT
    Is that so? Then at least publish his name so that I can search his
bibliographic resume. But one thing is very clear that you are just
peddling your ignorance by using his "name." .....BND
harmony - 05 Oct 2004 19:13 GMT
>      Is that so? Then at least publish his name so that I can search his
> bibliographic resume. But one thing is very clear that you are just
> peddling your ignorance by using his "name." .....BND

sorry, ignorance is not me, dear; i am, actually, quite in tune with the
cutting edge on this.
bdixit - 05 Oct 2004 19:36 GMT
   You are not "on cutting edge" of anything since you cannot even
answer simple questions. But  you are on the edge. Better watch it! You
might just fall off the cliff, Ayurveda or no Ayurveda....BND
harmony - 05 Oct 2004 19:46 GMT
do you pray in hindu style?
now that is a simple question.

>     You are not "on cutting edge" of anything since you cannot even
> answer simple questions. But  you are on the edge. Better watch it! You
> might just fall off the cliff, Ayurveda or no Ayurveda....BND
bdixit - 05 Oct 2004 20:12 GMT
   I try to pry open the ignorance of people like you. How is
that?.....BND
harmony - 05 Oct 2004 20:27 GMT
now, you need to have a dialog with yourself since you can't answer simple
questions.

>     I try to pry open the ignorance of people like you. How is
> that?.....BND
 
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