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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / October 2004

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Merck, the maker of Vioxx, agrees with BeWellKel, and pulls Vioxx

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bewellkel - 30 Sep 2004 23:32 GMT
Heh heh.

Merck deserves kudos for today's actions. They could have fought it
and pulled in billions more.

On a related subject, I wish I could recall where I read that Celebrex
actually causes increased inflammation while it reduces pain. In
six-month studies, Celebrex reduces arthtritis pain. But due to the
increased inflammation, one-year studies show pain returns or
increases.

So the average person uses drugs for a while until they need surgery
-- a surgery that might not have been needed if their joint
inflammation hadn't been accelerated by the drug. Those cox-II
inhibitors -- yesterday's wonder drug; today's latest casualty.

PS. The NSAID's also cause internal bleeding which kills 13,500 people
a year.
Kelley
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poochini - 01 Oct 2004 18:24 GMT
So what's the answer...just gut it out?

So what's your advice herr doctor....Let me guess....An all raw food diet?
Five mile hikes?  Or ...physical therapy?

You know you are awfully smug sounding and not too terribly much help to a
person who is suffering with pain.

Thanks so much for .....NOTHING!!

> Heh heh.
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bewellkel - 02 Oct 2004 03:47 GMT
> So what's the answer...just gut it out?
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> You know you are awfully smug sounding and not too terribly much help to a
> person who is suffering with pain.

Of course, you're right. While my initial comments were funny to me,
for people who are really suffering and with no apparent alternative,
the news about Vioxx must have been devastating. Although, I have had
a tricky hip joint lately that gives me sudden sharp pains, I haven't
had to deal with constant or frequent arthritic pain.

So my apologies to you and anyone else who feels trapped in pain. In
the past I've been able to nip any arthritic pains with natural
topical sprays. My experience is that some topicals work better than
others, and the results probably differ from person to person.

Vitamin World has a liquid oral product called Joint Maintenance that
works pretty good, but like anything else, nothing works well for
everybody.

My hip seems to act up when I eat rice too often, but that's just me,
and would probably offer little benefit for others.

Again, my apologies and sympathies to you in your suffering. I was
just full of myself, which was of no benefit to you. Since I don't use
Vioxx or any drugs, I forgot that people like you have real pain and
counted on it for relief.
Kelley
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