I have had arthritis for over 10 years. I have been taking 800 mgs of
Ibuprofen two to three times a day for more than half of those years.
It doesn't help much. Is there something that might work better? My
doctor said to use glucosamine with my Ibuprofen...been using for a
few months...don't see a difference. I still take it for preventative
reasons. I'm afraid that pain killers are next because the other
arthritis meds I've had prescribed over the years haven't helped. I
really don't want to start using pain killers! Any suggestions?
Katherine Wolfe - 20 Sep 2004 04:42 GMT
> I'm afraid that pain killers are next because the other
> arthritis meds I've had prescribed over the years haven't helped. I
> really don't want to start using pain killers! Any suggestions?
You might try a COX-2 anti-inflammatory like Vioxx or Celebrex. They last
24 hours, are quite a bit stronger than ibuprofen, but they won't make you
loopy like opiates will. You might ask your doctor if he feels it's
appropriate for you to try a COX-2 AI, and if so, whether he has any samples
you can try to see if it would work for you.
Katherine
bewellkel - 20 Sep 2004 07:22 GMT
> I have had arthritis for over 10 years. I have been taking 800 mgs of
> Ibuprofen two to three times a day for more than half of those years.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> arthritis meds I've had prescribed over the years haven't helped. I
> really don't want to start using pain killers! Any suggestions?
Using chondroitin and MSM in addition to the glucosamine seems to help
a lot of people. Vitamin World, a chain store, has a liquid form
("Joint Maintenance"??) that some people swear by. Other stores
probably have an equivelent product.
The NSAID's (Aspirin, Celebrex, Ibuprofen, etc) actually increase
inflamation or at least allow the inflamation to continue unabated,
although they can relieve pain for a while. The quantity of Ibuprofen
you're taking could lead to internal bleeding. If you have bruising on
your arms, it's already happening.
Kelley, (No, I'm not a doctor)
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Harvey R. Stone - 20 Sep 2004 18:00 GMT
>> I have had arthritis for over 10 years. I have been taking 800 mgs of
>> Ibuprofen two to three times a day for more than half of those years.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> headaches.
> For men and women. Visit xxxxxxxx
You have reported for advertising 3 times in a newsgroup that has a charter
that does not allow it.
Harv
bewellkel - 21 Sep 2004 06:11 GMT
> >> I have had arthritis for over 10 years. I have been taking 800 mgs of
> >> Ibuprofen two to three times a day for more than half of those years.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> that does not allow it.
> Harv
I am still puzzled how my message appeared three times. When I clicked
on the "Post message" button all that appeared was a screen that said
"server cannot be found."
My apologies for the duplications.
Kelley
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Paul T. Holland - 24 Sep 2004 02:31 GMT
scammer - bewellkel@yahoo.com - is a returnee, just using a new nym:
>From: awthrawthr (awthrawthr@yahoo.com)
>Subject: Imflamation and arthritis
>Newsgroups: misc.health.arthritis
> Date: 2004-04-18 13:25:16 PST
>Did anyone see the cover story in Newsweek/Time regarding the
>imflammation connection to so many different conditions, including
>arthritis?
this is william kelley eidem - big in the 'e-book' scam biz, - including his
major scam - a cancer cure book - and has several other identities and sites,
mostly uses registration info of:
itsnotjustforsex.com
Eidem, Kelley awthrawthr@yahoo.com
n/a
1922-B Mack Lewis Dr.
Panama City, FL 32401
US
850-872-1060
this one is for BeWellKel.com:
Eidem, Kelley awthrawthr@yahoo.com
n/a
1922-B Mack Lewis Dr.
Panama City, FL 32401
US
850-872-1060
scammer is back out of the shadows and trolling in several groups now pitching
the new pills...
be well
paul
bewellkel - 20 Sep 2004 07:23 GMT
> I have had arthritis for over 10 years. I have been taking 800 mgs of
> Ibuprofen two to three times a day for more than half of those years.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> arthritis meds I've had prescribed over the years haven't helped. I
> really don't want to start using pain killers! Any suggestions?
Using chondroitin and MSM in addition to the glucosamine seems to help
a lot of people. Vitamin World, a chain store, has a liquid form
("Joint Maintenance"??) that some people swear by. Other stores
probably have an equivelent product.
The NSAID's (Aspirin, Celebrex, Ibuprofen, etc) actually increase
inflamation or at least allow the inflamation to continue unabated,
although they can relieve pain for a while. The quantity of Ibuprofen
you're taking could lead to internal bleeding. If you have bruising on
your arms, it's already happening.
Kelley, (No, I'm not a doctor)
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bewellkel - 20 Sep 2004 07:23 GMT
> I have had arthritis for over 10 years. I have been taking 800 mgs of
> Ibuprofen two to three times a day for more than half of those years.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> arthritis meds I've had prescribed over the years haven't helped. I
> really don't want to start using pain killers! Any suggestions?
Using chondroitin and MSM in addition to the glucosamine seems to help
a lot of people. Vitamin World, a chain store, has a liquid form
("Joint Maintenance"??) that some people swear by. Other stores
probably have an equivelent product.
The NSAID's (Aspirin, Celebrex, Ibuprofen, etc) actually increase
inflamation or at least allow the inflamation to continue unabated,
although they can relieve pain for a while. The quantity of Ibuprofen
you're taking could lead to internal bleeding. If you have bruising on
your arms, it's already happening.
Kelley, (No, I'm not a doctor)
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Harvey R. Stone - 20 Sep 2004 17:58 GMT
>I have had arthritis for over 10 years. I have been taking 800 mgs of
> Ibuprofen two to three times a day for more than half of those years.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> arthritis meds I've had prescribed over the years haven't helped. I
> really don't want to start using pain killers! Any suggestions?
Yes, many people have found that Gluco/con has helped with arthritis pain
in their joints. I have found that Aleve helps me more than ibu but
Naproxyn does a better job of pain relief. You may not be that way and ibu
works best for you butttttt they both will eat a hole in your gut. So
please take with food. Here is a post from the past on Gluco. My
question for you is are you taking enough/day?
Harv
Ps here is a good site for information.
http://home.gci.net/~cushman4/oa-gcs.htm
Glucosamine Has a Disease-Modifying Effect on Osteoarthritis CME
News Author: Laurie Barclay, MD
March 17, 2004 - Glucosamine has a disease-modifying effect on
osteoarthritis, according to the results of two three-year randomized
studies published in the March/April issue of Menopause.
"The management of knee osteoarthritis, recognized as responsible for
consistent pain and disability, is a major social and economic target
in health management," write Olivier Bruyere, MSc, from the WHO
Collaborating Center for Public Health Aspect of Osteoarticular
Disorders in Liege, Belgium, and colleagues. "For a few years,
glucosamine sulfate has been considered a potential disease-modifying
drug for osteoarthritis."
This study was a preplanned combination of two three-year, randomized,
placebo-controlled, prospective, independent trials investigating the
effects of glucosamine sulfate on symptoms and joint structure in
osteoarthritis. Of 414 subjects enrolled, 319 were postmenopausal
women. Demographics and disease characteristics were similar at
baseline in the glucosamine sulfate and placebo groups, both in the
overall study population and in the subgroup of postmenopausal women.
After three years, postmenopausal women who received placebo had joint
space narrowing on standing anteroposterior knee radiographs, but
those who received glucosamine did not. Joint space change was +0.003
mm (95% confidence interval [CI], -0.09 to 0.11) in the glucosamine
group and -0.33 mm (95% CI, -0.44 to -0.22) in the placebo group (P <
.0001).
The glucosamine sulfate group also improved in the Western Ontario and
McMaster Universities Osteoarthritis Index function scale (WOMAC)
reflecting symptoms (-14.1%; 95% CI, -22.2 to -5.9), while there was a
trend for worsening in the placebo group (5.4%; 95% CI, -4.9 to 15.7;
P = .003 between groups).
A potential study limitation is that symptom relief might improve
joint space narrowing as seen on standing knee x-rays, but the authors
found only a poor relationship between symptom relief and prevention
of joint space narrowing. They also found a significant difference in
joint space preservation between patients receiving placebo or
glucosamine when considering only those patients with symptomatic
improvement.
"This analysis, focusing on a large cohort of postmenopausal women,
demonstrated for the first time that a pharmacological intervention
for osteoarthritis has a disease-modifying effect in this particular
population, the most frequently affected by knee osteoarthritis," the
authors write. "Glucosamine sulfate, therefore, is the first agent
that meets the current requirements to be classified as a symptom- and
structure-modifying drug in women with knee osteoarthritis."