 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / October 2007Traditional Cupping Hijama Education Course
There is a site that offers some interesting free information on cupping, hijama, hajamah, that provides and interesting perspective. It also offers a eBook education course. Enjoy http://www.brokenearth.org/hijama "Cupper" <info@brokenearth.org> wrote in message: > http://www.snakeoil.org/ Another medicine man out of Oklahoma. GODADDY ain't gonna be happy with that. ... Spitaph: SPIRO T. AGNEW -- Veep No More Two-thirds of the world uses cupping. Scientific evidence has proven that the blood cells removed from cupping are all dead blood cells - no live blood cells as if extracted from the vein. This alone shoul be evidence enough. Even a fire jockey with a highschool education should be able to tell snake oil from dead blood cells. Try reading up on this before you spout off with threats to contact our hosting company. Such foolishness never ceases to amaze me. The dead blood cells seem to have gone to your brain. PS I like Medicine Men - old school natural healing as opposed to the medical mafia. Most Americans are so isolated and they reveal in their ignorance. Coming from an eigth generation American. We are addressing people with a brain here who can think. If not accepting, so what, it's your body and your medical bills. > Two-thirds of the world uses cupping. Scientific evidence has proven > that the blood cells removed from cupping are all dead blood cells - > no live blood cells as if extracted from the vein. This alone shoul be > evidence enough. If your site is an any way commercial, you may not post it here. This newsgroup has a charter that does not allow it and the ISPs are reported with information to have your use of the internet curtailed. That was said so that even a 6 grade education can understand so that I am sure even you understand the rules. Harv Such unwarrented hostility from people. Yea, if we are volating some rules, tell us. But do it nice. Again, is there an agenda here or what. Everything on our site is free excluding a few optional e--book sales that are also offered for free if people simply write to us and ask us for the content. I hardly call that commercial. The selling aspect is simply to cover some costs. We also do not solicite donations, Although, I must confess to asking for a donated RV - perhaps bad judgement, perhaps good intention to get out there and share this important information. This of course does not mean we are a commercial enterprise - it is just our own standards. Far above most non-profits. Anyone really looking at the site - OBJECTIVELY - would know that. Yeap, this is malicious. The phone number in the defamatory post by the presumed spook is wrong - and the holder of that number likely is not very happy that you recklessly posted his name and phone number. It used to be our number - we could not afford to keep it. Again, me thinks there is an agenda at work here. Do you spend this much time attacking the medical mafia? > Do you spend this much time attacking the medical mafia? Does your site have anything to do with arthritis? Harv > Such unwarrented hostility from people. Yea, if we are volating some > rules, tell us. actually spammer, it's your duty to find out if posts like yours are acceptable 'before' you post them.... >But do it nice. oh spammy dear? you are the one who doesn't 'get' it...harvey 'was'being nice... >Again, is there an agenda here or > what. vote time: WHAT NOT WHAT we need a vote wrangler here: >Everything on our site is free excluding a few optional e--book > sales that are also offered for free if people simply write to us and > ask us for the content. we quite understood the 'but' from the beginning >- I hardly call that commercial. The selling as you have found out, your opinion is not the deciding factor > aspect is simply to cover some costs. We also do not solicite > donations, [rule number one, spammers lie] of course you do, your pages are rife with pressure and tutorial on 'charity' all aimed at getting the mark to 'give' - and of course i did post your solicitation for the van... >Although, I must confess to asking for a donated RV - you didn't have a choice since i had already posted it > perhaps bad judgement, perhaps good intention to get out there and > share this important information. actually, not anything any other above board non-profit does all the time...but, since you don't accept the irs/tax situation here in this country [yes, i read those pages also ] you just had to try to waffle didn't you? >This of course does not mean we are > a commercial enterprise - it is just our own standards. yawn >Far above most > non-profits. hubris - shame, shame... >Anyone really looking at the site - OBJECTIVELY - would > know that. ah! so just reading it, and posting your exact words isn't good enough? your problem not ours. > Yeap, this is malicious. no, but i guarantee that should you continue with your silliness here you will continue to be responded to in the identical manner. > The phone number in the defamatory post by the presumed spook is wrong lololol spook huh? gosh but that's funny. you are responsible for having published it in connection with your operations. any defamation is writ by your hand. > - and the holder of that number likely is not very happy that you > recklessly posted his name and phone number. It used to be our number > - we could not afford to keep it. so, what you're saying is that this 'new' holder of the number is going to be upset because of being associated with your operation? well, if you say so... now you are apparently referring to [obscured if spammy claim is true] Leon Hez (505) 68xxxx533 20ay 84, Abiquiu, NM 87510 so, let me simply post what you published: http://www.travel-library.com/tours/middle_east/syria/damascus/broken_earth_hear t_excursion.html Broken Earth Heart Excursion No Sign-up or Yearly Fee! Get Direct Enquiries! Click Here to Sign up Damascus Hotels Damascus Index SYRIA CITIES Aleppo View all cities A Journey of Spiritual Awakening. Heart Excursions are life changing journeys into a side of life that few persons dare to wander. Guaranteed to change the way you see the world and yourself. Type: Adventure Price from 3500 USD /person Duration of 15 days Starts at 06.30 am Finishes at 09.00 pm Phone: (505) 685-0533 Fax: N/A 15/05/2007 to 30/05/2007 15/10/2007 to 30/10/2007 how's that spammer? gosh, oct 15 - 30/2007 can it be any more contemporary - so if someone else does have the number, why haven't you done anything to change the listing?... don't 'you' know that it could cause all kinds of misdirected calls that the other person would have to handle for you? not to mention just how are your trip mates supposed to have reached you? and as is clearly shown, there isn't an ounce of maliciousness involved - only verified reporting... > Again, me thinks there is an agenda at work here. indeed there is - spammers aren't welcome here. see? it is really just that simple. > Do you spend this much time attacking the medical mafia? do you always make such silly remarks? Cupper vomited this: > Such unwarrented hostility from people. Yeah, we hate all spammers and we try to return hostility for hostility. Cupper is still mastutbating with his lies: > Everything on our site is free excluding a few optional > e--book sales So you do sell. That makes it a commercial operation in all 50 States. And you advertised it in a newsgroup whose charter prohibits advertising. even a 'true believer' should know better than to taunt those who aren't interested in off topic postings from total strangers, so let's see just who this is: posting from 216.226.7.39 - fullnet-net - FORMYSITE.COM site registration : James McConnell Broken Earth PO Box 158 Abiquiu New Mexico 87510 +1.3125130388 friendlycombatant@gmail.com couple weeks ago, James Umar McConnell posted from 216.226.10.222, advertising to get a donated rv to go touring the country in. matches our spammer's ip range another phone number associated with this bunch is: Leonard Herbez (505) 685-0533 20686 Highway 84, Abiquiu, NM 87510 and (918) 387-2361 a non-published number Contact Broken Earth Mailing Address: PO Box 158 Abiquiu, New Mexico 87510 Main Address: Country Road 155 Number 581 Abiquiu, New Mexico 87510 General Inquires: info@brokenearth.org Program Inquires: depression@brokenearth.org, cupping@brokeneath.org Director: hope@brokenearth.org Webmaster: web@brokenearth.org Main Phone: (505) 685-0533 as to pecuniary intent: " Money historically was offered to these healers out of respect, not by demand. The rewards from money well spent by someone spiritually higher than yourself, falls back on you. The closer your contribution is to something of real substance, such as gold, silver, or even a sheep, the more spiritual weight that contribution carries. Paper money, while acceptable, is less favorable. Checks and credit cards are negative in that your contribution is no longer inconspicuous. Real charity is not tax deductible." " You may come and partake in the free offerings provided by Broken Earth Healers and walk away without spending a penny. But how then will your human being be healed when willingly acting like an animal stealing a bone? Real health comes from acting in conformity to proven concepts of behavior. We are loosing these concepts and this is why so many people are suffering now. This is a major point to consider. " in other words, give, or it won't work right..lololol unless that is, you wish to purchase outright: Purchase the full eBook educational course below. ONLY US $9.95 and of course then you'll need to buy all the proper supplies etc... spam for his operation This is a treatment that will help many and is offered totally FREE of charge as stated. The e-book training program does however cost $9.95 as there are many associated expenses with it. I do not think we will get rich off of a training program designed to educate people. Cupping is catching on and many practioners are not doing it properly. The fact is most people do not put a value on things free. If people wish to incure the cost of traveling to a session where services are offered for free - they are most welcome to learn for free. Rental car, gas, hotel, airfare - then most welcome. I find it strange that people would take what seems to amount to hours of research and reading to discredit this treatment and our post. It adds up to malicious intent and down right defamatory action. I wonder what your true motives really are. Doctors are scared to death of this inexpensive and effective treatment. It would not surprise me that full time spooks get paid to discredit alternative treatments that cut into the billion dollar medical mafia. No, not surprise me one bit. An RV would facilitate the free training we hope to provide among other free offerings we have planned. Thanks for providing our contact information and repeating our appeal for a donated RV. Bad intentions always backfire. We have and likely will continue making enemies who wish to destroy the work we do - we already know that. Thanks for making it clear to others. God sees and knows everything - we are content letting Him to judge. response to spammer's rebuttal #2 > This is a treatment that will help many and is offered totally FREE of > charge as stated. yawn >The e-book training program does however cost $9.95 sure does...lol > as there are many associated expenses with it. gosh a roony spammer, commercial is commercial >I do not think we will > get rich off of a training program designed to educate people. surely not here you won't! lol >Cupping > is catching on and many practioners are not doing it properly. and you and yours will galdly - for a small remittance - show how it's done...we get it already >The > fact is most people do not put a value on things free. tsk, tsk - and how that is our problem? in what way ddoes this justify your spam? >If people wish > to incure the cost of traveling to a session where services are > offered for free - they are most welcome to learn for free. Rental > car, gas, hotel, airfare - then most welcome. as you should have understood before ever posting here - you aren't finding any takers here - > I find it strange that people would take what seems to amount to hours > of research and reading to discredit this treatment and our post. puppy, if you think it took hours to come up with such basic information on your operation then you are truly a novice. >It > adds up to malicious intent and down right defamatory action. are you a betting man? you will find that you are so wrong as to be lauaghable - you injected a spam message in a group that does not allow for it. 'we' - any and all readers of your message - are not only 'allowed' but actually 'entitled' to know just who and what have intruded. in this case - you... since you treated us as consumers, we have a total legal right to find out, and publish, who the merchant is that had the temerity to be so brash. >I wonder > what your true motives really are. hmmmmm...let me think...since you fail to comprehend that you, as a spammer, are unwelcome here, i can only infer that you also fail to grasp that we [i] don't like spammers and feel they deserve to be known for who they are...not my problem. > Doctors are scared to death of this inexpensive and effective > treatment. gosh, i'll have to tell lmy doc about your thesis of fear - he'll get a good chuckle fro it! >It would not surprise me that full time spooks get paid to > discredit alternative treatments that cut into the billion dollar > medical mafia. No, not surprise me one bit. almost a godwin folks, close enough to reflect the isolation of paranoia. > An RV would facilitate the free training we hope to provide among > other free offerings we have planned. yawn > Thanks for providing our contact information and repeating our appeal > for a donated RV. you're welcome! lololol > Bad intentions always backfire. so far, you're the only one things have 'backfired' upon - yet still you continue! too droll. >We have and likely will continue > making enemies who wish to destroy the work we do - we already know > that. Thanks for making it clear to others. bwahahahahahaha poor wuzzims that you would posit that you are viewed as an enemy is laughable! you're just a merchant peddling your product and you got busted for it - big whoop all that the above demonstrates is hubris on your part. silly twit. > God sees and knows everything - we are content letting Him to judge. ah! but god doesn't act as moderator of usenet, so get a clue.... I only read the first few lines no need to read the rest. In conclussion, we empower many victims against marriage fraud, pedophilia, incest and other forms of heinous abuse. We understandbly are going to piss some people off. Our sites approach is not to solicite funds. You can read why on the site as opposed to hearing it second hand from people who intend harm. Really the bottom line is this, you can either offer something with a suggested donation price or you can list a price and offer it to anyone who asks for free. This is not about commercial or not commercial. But let' say for aminute that it is. Our approach has merit - we offer the programs and everything on our site for free. There is no benefit of the doubt. Perhaps we are more commercial rather than pretending to take donations and then using 80% of donations to empower and enrich ourselves like so many non-profits today. this is not our way for many reasons. Bottom line, stack our intention and offering up against the slander and lies - the malcious out right libelous and defamatory posts - WHICH IS MORE HEINOUS? All will agree it is the attack not the action of offering a course that can be requested for free. Substandard courses are offered at ten times the price. We must always look at intention. Whose intention is good, whose intention is bad. Anyone carefully reviewing our site or knowing us will understand who we are and what we are doing. There will always be people who seek to corupt our efforts. It goes with exposing the truth. This is the bigget problem with the Internet. No one will sue or police these slanderous, backbitting people. Geographically it is difficult, most of them have no money even if you dd win. But there is a God and judgement is absolute. I hope you people think before continuing such action. Most will not listen - we know that. Those that have a heart and want help - most welcome. That's all I have to say about that. On a concluding positive note - here is some more free information from Broken Earth. Most forms of arthritis will benefit or be cured from the following treatment. Go to a local sheep farmer and ask if you can have the four sheep's feet. Skin, remove the hoof and clean, then place in a slow cooker in several cups of water. Fully cook the feet for eight or more hours. Remove the bones and take the jelly and place it in the fridge. Take a tablespoon of the jelly several tmes a day. This remedy replaces an ingrediant in the body that once used up can not be replaced by any other way than this method. Repeat for forty days. You should see noticeable improvement in your condition - often a total cure. No donations please and no slander! spammer want you to kill 'lambchop' - evil man you! lolololololol > On a concluding positive note - here is some more free information > from Broken Earth. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > No donations please and no slander! Let me guess, you are on disability, you have no friends because of your ugly disposition and you now, thanks to the Internet, have an endless supply of people you can taunt - and then what. What a miserable wasted life. I honestly feel sorry for you. What a fanatic! There is no difference between a voluntary suggested donation and a sale price with an option to take it for free. That is what you fail to see. I will however take this post down and all those who could otherwise benefit will not because an idiot like you. I can not see et such an example remain for others to copy. Get a life. I hope you find peace somewhere, somehow. gosh spammer, you've written several times that you were out of here, yet you keep posting...just another version of 'spammers lie' isn't it? > Let me guess, guessing is your normal modis operandi isn't it? so much easier than, say, researching whether commercial posts are acceptable. let's see if you've managed to be any more accurate this time: >you are on disability, bzzzzzzt - incorrect oh mighty svengali. not now, not ever. >you have no friends bzzzzzzt - two for two, karnac in training has a long way to go >because of > your ugly disposition gosh! holding up a mirror to a spammer and quoting exact passages from your pages really has you upset... you really have no idea how much humor you have been providing do you? >and you now, thanks to the Internet, have the means to check on the bona fides of strangers who wander thru touting their products and methods? please note that unlike another of your incorrect assertions, it was not a difficult or lengthy process. >have an > endless supply of people you can taunt indeed...it is a sad fact of today's world that folk like yourself squeeze under the door and wiggle around for a while like the cockroach. though in fairness, i should point out that is is 'you' who initiated taunts towards those who disagreed with - that you received it in return is of your own doing. >- and then what. do try to keep up, the vote was taken and was overwhelming 'not what'... >What a > miserable wasted life. and yet you continue to post...poor thing you...such masochistic tendencies on your part. >I honestly feel sorry for you. well, that is not going to change anyone's mind about you. >What a fanatic! ah! you finally noticed the mirror everyone has been holding up for you to look in - no matter which way you try to turn there it is! you are, indeed, acting like a fanatic. > There is no difference between a voluntary suggested donation and a > sale price with an option to take it for free. bubba, you have placed yourself squarely on the same team as every other madison avenue huckster out there. of course there is the distinct diff. - when truly for no charge it is simply there for the taking, no records or tracking, and no questions. aside from the implied sub-text of your script, requiring one to ask for a freebie also provides you with the option of emotional pressure, and/or placing other, new, requirements in the way... folks here are able to read, absorb, and understand the semantics of 'how' you write your pages, and 'how' you phrase the donation pitch....- that's why i included parts of it in my first response... now, since you have returned to it, let's not overlook the practical aspect of how you present it: >The closer your contribution is to something of real substance, such as gold, silver, or even a sheep, the >more spiritual weight that contribution carries. really now? and it just so happens that these are commodities that won't be tracked by the bank or the tax man...but be warned - hurt lambchop and the sheree lewis fan club will picket you! >Paper money, while acceptable, is less favorable. lololololololololololololololol - pesky paper... >Checks and credit cards are negative in that your contribution is no longer inconspicuous. gosh...too true, and you would have to account for it to the gov then wouldn't you? >Real charity is not tax deductible." and so much more convenient for you that way isn't it? of course your missive continued with a series of guilt trip wordings...do you really think we haven't seen similar before? >That is what you fail > to see. ah! had we failed to see the truth behind your words you wouldn't be so upset would you now? > I will however take this post down and all those who could otherwise > benefit will not because an idiot like you. is this going to be another of those unkept promises you've made over the past few days? >I can not see et such an > example remain for others to copy. yet you will find that you have no choice...your silliness is archived for posterity... >Get a life. we have one, in which you are a mere minor distraction. > I hope you find peace somewhere, somehow. well you may contribute to it by making yourself absent...lololol > Let me guess, you are on disability, you have no friends because of > your ugly disposition and you now, thanks to the Internet, have an > endless supply of people you can taunt - and then what. What a > miserable wasted life. Gosh sakes alive! Now he's talking to himself in a mirror. This is a game with you, some sort of sport to make you feel useful, superior. OK You win I loose. You are much better than me, your life is dedicated to helping people more than ours. You are perfect in every way. Your are the example we should all follow. I wish I were you or even close to being you. We are all wrong everything we said is a complete deception desigened to con people and enrich ourselves. I am a spammer of the worst kind, a cheat a liar a real snake oil sale person. Happy! Are we finished now? Does it feel so good? Feel accomplished, vctorious? I bow to your superior intellect and clear higher spiritual awareness. Have a lovely life. Enjoy that hatred thing. > This is a game with you, some sort of sport to make you feel useful, > superior. OK It's a game, between my square dances, backgammon, Chinese checkers, cribbage, doctors' appointments, bluegrass club meetings, church services, meals, tending to 3 cats, cooking for the wife, PT following THR surgery....what else have I forgotten? > You win I loose. You are much better than me, your life is dedicated > to helping people more than ours. You are perfect in every way. My wife thinks so, as do my 4 sons and 13 grandkids. > Your are the example we should all follow. I wish I were you or even close > to being you. Satan is closer to me than you'll ever be. And he doesn't make grammarical mistake after mistake after mistake like you just did. Doesn't project a well polished business image, wouldn't you say? > We are all wrong everything we said is a complete deception desigened to > con people and enrich ourselves. I am a spammer of the worst kind, a cheat > a liar a real snake oil sale person. I wonder if your D.A. would pursue that confession. Sure makes his job easier. I'm sure the FDA would also be interested. ... Tomorrow Cupper's gonna see if he can have sex with something. Cupper wants to kill ewes and rams in this spew: > Most forms of arthritis will benefit or be cured from the following > treatment. Nothing different there than the Knox gelatin "cure" I first heard in the 1970's. Shocks some vegans when they learn that gelatin, Jell-O, and ice cream contain animal products. <g> hey chief you just knew he was going to throw in the 'cure' word didn't you! lolol not to mention that poor wuzzims doesn't have a clue as to proper sanitary conditions for storage and such... hey! spammer! i grew up in the country, as did several other folk here...i'll match my granna's folk remedies against yours anyday! lololololololol and please note that this late entry into the thread won't save you from the spammer label since the overwhelming majority of your scribblings are off topic to this group. > Cupper wants to kill ewes and rams in this spew: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Shocks some vegans when they learn that gelatin, Jell-O, and ice cream > contain animal products. <g> mommyyyyyyy the bad men are quoting my own writings and information back at me and it's not niiiiiiiiceeeeeeeee.... > I only read the first few lines no need to read the rest. exactly how we felt about your posts > In conclussion, promise? >we empower many victims against marriage fraud, off-topic for this group > pedophilia, > off-topic for this group >incest off-topic for this group >and other forms of heinous abuse. like your spam? >We understandbly objection - no understanding on your part in evidence... > are going to piss some people off. why i do believe you have finally written an accurate statement... > Our sites approach is not to solicite funds. false and mendacious given the psychological approach you employ, all the earmarks ofan marketing agent. >You can read why on the > site as opposed to hearing it second hand from people who intend harm. but spammy, you're objectiong tomy having gone anread it...lololol shame i understand the technique isn't it? > Really the bottom line is this, that you are thickheaded and obsitnate? >you can either offer something with a > suggested donation price or you can list a price and offer it to > anyone who asks for free. This is not about commercial or not > commercial. ya gotta love the hairsplitting here folks, well done spammer! but it won't wash >But let' say for aminute that it is. i believe that has already occurred... >Our approach has > merit - you would of course think so - but you fail to grasp that we don't have to accept your premise... >we offer the programs and everything on our site for free. yawn > There is no benefit of the doubt. Perhaps we are more commercial > rather than pretending lololololololololol ture, you have been more than a bit of a 'pretender' >to take donations and then using 80% of > donations to empower and enrich ourselves like so many non-profits > today. lolololololololol go ahead, dig yourself in deeper spammer >this is not our way for many reasons. that you haven't the talent for it? > Bottom line, you are obnoxious? >stack our intention and offering up against the slander > and lies - your words, your postings and pages, lies huh? >the malcious out right libelous and defamatory posts - gosh but the truth sure has you flumoxed doesn't it? > WHICH IS MORE HEINOUS? the vote is in: you >All will agree it is the attack not the action so, your psam is excused? too bad you dind't get to vote on that point kid > of offering a course that can be requested for free. Substandard > courses are offered at ten times the price. not germane, you are the object of scrutiny > We must always look at intention. Whose intention is good, whose > intention is bad. would that you had bothered prior to trying your ploy here. > Anyone carefully reviewing our site or knowing us will understand who > we are and what we are doing. indeed! and still you object silly thing you! > There will always be people who seek to corupt our efforts. then i suggest you go live on an island away from the rest of mankind. >It goes > with exposing the truth. which you so vociferously object to when it happens to you and yours. > This is the bigget problem with the Internet. that you are known? lol >No one will sue or > police these slanderous, backbitting people. 'specially when all that has occurred is that factual information of your own publishing has been reviewed >Geographically it is > difficult, most of them have no money even if you dd win. so you'd only go after big bucks - i'd call that a nuisance suit myself... >But there is > a God and judgement is absolute. as you will undoubtably find out when your time comes...with only yourself to hold responsible. > I hope you people think before continuing such action. Most will not > listen - we know that. poor wuzzims > Those that have a heart and want help - most welcome. > > That's all I have to say about that. still waiting to see if you really, really, mean it...lololol you big tease you. Cupper revealed his limited business acumen and lack of English grammar knowledge with this: > Our sites approach > God sees and knows everything - we are content letting Him to judge. This is an arthritis newsgroup....... Is any of this about that or did you come here to just run your mouth about other stuff. Harv > > God sees and knows everything - we are content letting Him to judge. > > This is an arthritis newsgroup....... Is any of this about that or did you > come here to just run your mouth about other stuff. harvey, i do believe the answer to that last part is YES...lol > Harv Cupper spewed this rubbish: > Bad intentions always backfire. That's why we always report spammers to their ISP, and when it involves health to the FDA. Cupper spewed more garbage: > I find it strange that people would take what seems to amount to hours > of research and reading to discredit this treatment and our post. It > adds up to malicious intent and down right defamatory action. I wonder > what your true motives really are. You are the only person who has shown malicious intent by advertising in a group whose charter prohibits it. And your replies can be labeled only as inflammatory. I think you misjudge us and I stand on what I believe to be a good intention - helping people find alternative remedies that are cheap, effective and help people avoid the medical mafia with the overpriced medications and expensive treatments that may work in one respect but cause so much damage in many different ways. If you see how we live, if you really take the time to view our site, you will see we are not commercial in any way. At present we offer one e-book on the entire site for sale and it can be had for free. You people are so full of hatred and anger - you want to crusify everyone without really understanding the intent. I ask again, what is really your intent. To keep people from knowing about alternative methods. Read the free information we offer on the healing remedies site - try to see some good in people. Do think maybe your arthritis is part of how you perceive life - sinical - full of hatred? I really feel sorry for you folks and hope you find some relief for your condition and happiness in your lives. Peace You honestly believe that this is not promoting a commercial product - it's your post - please explain. Bone Drug Cuts Deaths, Stops New Fractures in Elderly Patients With Hip Fractures, Study Says Monday, September 17, 2007 19:51 PDT ATLANTA, Georgia -- For the first time, an osteoporosis drug has reduced deaths and prevented new fractures in elderly patients with broken hips, according to new research. Some experts called the drop in deaths "striking" but said other drugs could have a similar effect. It's alright with you because it is something within your limits - a form of treatment you have been lead to believe works by enourmous PR money. If you want a crusade why not stop promoting commercial products that cost so much money. I think you are a trained EMT and you have been indoctrinated into the fratenity of selling and promoting pharmaceutical poison. Do you get a kick back like doctors do for promoting this stuff. Again, this is over one e-book that can be had for free as everything can be had for free. Admit that you have gone way overboard. But no - this is about your ego. It started ugly right off the bat. Why so ugly. Has it ever crossed your mind that some people may not really understand the rules or that some treatments - products or training programs tht have fees associated with them are still News as the above that you provided. Your arguments are narrow and very unkind. I think you need to find a job with a little less pressure. The sheep feet works much better - it is natural - it is effectively free. Where do you think the pharmaceutical companies got the idea from. Do you think they paid the person who told them about sheeps feet. The pills are possibly synthetic and even if not natural therapies are best when they are natural. Garlic cures blood pressure in most people. Here is the catch, the genetically modified garbage you buy in WalMart has lost almost all of its medicinal properties. The "scientists" who study garlic as a cure know this an intentionally use the genetically modified garlic so they get the results they want. Tell me, why do you not spend more of your time lashing out at the people who have taken the enormously effective treatment of sheeps feet - packaged it and sell it - when it can be had for free. You really need to focus they uncontrolable anger in the right place. Spammer, spammer, spammer - you see only what you want to see You are on some kind of crusade. Look at the big picture - you are way off base. This has become a game with you - let's see who can destroy the spammer first - even if it really is not spam. Cutting and pasting half of what is said and not showing the many places on the site that indicate everything can be had for free is an attempt to win an argument - not right a wrong. It's all ego. It's all vice. Who is the LIAR - start being honest with yourself. Spend some time on things that bring goodness to the world. We have thought long and hard how to offer a free site to help people. We will never become a 501(c)3 and we are against soliciting funds, although if someone is really in need I would not eliminate the possibility of making an appeal directly on someone elses behlaf. The RV is the only thing we have mentioned asking for and that was solely to save on the expense of trying to get to where people need our help most with as little expense as possible. We have helped people who are sucidal, people get out of marriage fraud situations, and much more with no expectation of money. When you pick up that guy in the car that had an accident because his blood pressure medicine caused him to have a heart attack - how much does the ambulance get for a single call. What deal has your company made with hospitals to bring them the insured people? How much do you get paid from "helping" people. I'll put what we are doing and how we are doing it up against any other method out there. Your hatred blinds you - perhaps you think you are doing right, but you are a cog in a system that is so corruptand so broken and once more you know this and do nothing. So you come on sites like this and vent your frustration on people who are actually trying to help others. Spammer, spammer ad nausium. Look at yourself first - take a really good look. What are you doing to fix things? Then maybe after you fix your pathetic life you can suggest changes that will help us improve what we are doing to help others. You really need to get a perspective on yourself and life. Did we break the rules? Honestly I was not aware of it and I feel what we are doing should be know to as many people as possible. Do you have anything positive to contribute? Can you suggest ways to diseminate the information we offer in a better way. No, of course not. This is not about goodness, it is ego, who can be the chief Spam Crusader. This is no game. If anyone has turned these forums into a self-serving mockery it is you and those like you. All negative nothing positive. BrokenEarth - because of people like you. no, no, spammer - tis not what he or any of us have said. a) this is an article of another's work b) he has not association with either the author or the principals of the study c) he has no fiduciary ties to either d) while this particular article is western medicine, as many are discussed that originate from other disciplines. you simply don't accept our operational group modus that you, a principal of the organization, may not come in a tout your wares. period no matter how you phrase it, you benefit from any who you entice by your posts. you ask: >Did we break the rules? [noting the plural usage when in fact it is singular with 'you' as the agent] the answer is yes, and so you were told by harvey in the very beginning. all else from that point has been you arguing that you shouldn't be held to the same standard as the rest, and the deserved response you receive in return. than you don't like? - not our problem. the only 'ego' in evidence is your own. ready to go away yet? > You honestly believe that this is not promoting a commercial product - > it's your post - please explain. [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] > > BrokenEarth - because of people like you. you simply aren't willing to read what has been written > I think you misjudge us no one here has misjudged you - you posted spam and off topic spam to boot. that is simply a fact. >and I stand on what I believe to be a good > intention - you were given the benefit of the doubt as to your intention when harvey gave you warning. you then made the deliberate choice to argue about it, and compounded things by writing denigrating comments like: >The dead blood cells seem to have gone to your brain. at that point you put yourself firmly in the middle of the ring to be examined for who and what you are. ONLY THEN were the balance of the posts and comments made IN RESPONSE to your attitude. go and educate yourself, check the date AND TIME STAMPS of all the posts and what is factually clear is that 'you' initiated the abusive posts..... >helping people find alternative remedies that are cheap, irrelevant as to your spamming, even if what you propose had factual studies to back it up. how's about the bit where you write that the timing of the cupping procedure that you promote can't be determined ahead of time...you base it on the phases of the moon... "For optimal effect and safety it should be done in the second half of the lunar calendar month on an odd day and only during moderate climate." "Just as the moon affects the tide of the ocean, it affects the human body. Therefore, cupping should be performed on odd days of the lunar calendar when the forces of the moons pull assist in removing the dead blood cells. " " It is impossible to predict with exact accuracy when the optimal days for cupping will occur. Using scientific calculation you can predict within one day what the solar calendar day will be for the corresponding odd lunar calendar day." now the above simply points to your admixture of some small amount of science with a whole lot of ancient mumbo jumbo. every culture has, at some point in early history had a method for blood letitng - and today's science also has found some conditions that benefit from it. that is a far cry from the myth that you are promoting. but let's also proceed to another one of your [off-topic to this group but insightful ] programs: "A Simple Cure fro Cancer" let us look at just one criteria you promote: " You must find organically grown onions, preferably grown in the same soil where you live and spend the majority of your time. The common reddish brown variety is best." organic, same soil, reddish brown....shoot, this allows you such leeway as to be meaningless in todays society. not to mention that by law, you shouldn't be using the word 'cure'. > effective and help people avoid the medical mafia with the overpriced > medications and expensive treatments that may work in one respect but > cause so much damage in many different ways. ah! well, how about this one of yours: " Treatment for Persistent Open Wounds" "Cockroaches Find several cockroaches, quickly kill them, then roast them over the fire till they are crispy. Put them in a mortar and crush them into a fine powder. Apply the powder to the wound (sprinkle a small amount) once in the morning and once in the evening. After three days, you will begin to see that the wound is healing itself. " 'course you recommend this without any caveats for differing medical conditions, immune suppressed conditions, and so on...there is also: " Treatment for Jaundice Everything in Creation has a Purpose for Being Created. The only safe effective cure for jaundice, free from any side effects are black beetles. Yes, black beetles! Gather several black beetles, quickly kill them, then slow cook them in a clean pan. Do not overcook and make them dry. Take the cooked black beetles and crush them into a paste. Now take a teaspoon full in the morning and a teaspoon full in the evening. Repeat for several days." and while the naive are following your recommendation above, any one of a dozen diseases will kill them that much more quickly... > If you see how we live, what makes you think we haven't? remember, you already complained about how much time was spent investigating you...lololol >if you really take the time to view our site, done at the beginning. > you will see we are not commercial in any way. already refuted, and disagreed with ad nauseum. >At present we offer one > e-book on the entire site for sale and it can be had for free. said ebook is actually about many of your programs, as such, it should be considered nothing more that someone paying you to be exposed to the gamut of your enterprise. > You people are so full of hatred and anger - projection on your part - we actually have been having a bit of fun with you - your silliness and attempts to justify your actions is laughable. editorial changes: >you want to crusify change 'crusify' to 'hold responsible' > everyone without really understanding the intent. change 'everyone' to 'you' change 'really understanding the intent' to 'letting me get a way with my spam program' > I ask again, what is really your intent. once again: to require you and others like you to follow the rules of this group. >To keep people from knowing > about alternative methods. to assist others to really know who and what folk like you are all about. >Read the free information we offer on the > healing remedies site - try to see some good in people. we did and watched you self-destruct with your taunts and vilification of those who disagreed with you. >Do think maybe you problem is that we are capable of independent thought. > your arthritis is part of how you perceive life - sinical - full of > hatred? lolololololololololololololololololol yet, it is noted that it is you and yours that are having the problems - not just here is a small newsgroup, but back where you actually live...indeed, you have long and serious disagreement with others don't you? - in fact, you are actually on the outside looking in. > I really feel sorry for you folks and hope you find some relief for > your condition and happiness in your lives. may you find a wider viewpoint and come to understand how it is that you have strayed. > Peace > I really feel sorry for you folks and hope you find some relief > for your condition and happiness in your lives. It's you we feel sorry for, believing all the crap you promote. REPORTED ABUSE The post contains a phone number that is no longer associated wit our organization. This person in his attempts to defame us and do harm has also harmed a third party who he names and gives their phone number. It also contains false and misleading statements attributed to us. The poster closes this post with a malicious request to "spam our opperation" (Actually read "spam for his opperation") Our site is all free. The educational e-books we offer is an attempt not to have to solicite funds and they also are offered free upon request. If this is in violation I would ask it to be removed. I prefer our methods to getting someone's e-mail and then hitting them with repeated appeals for contriutions. I find our charge for e-books with the option to request them for free - much more honorable. response to silly attempt at rebuttal from spammy gosh folks, here we go again~! what i suggest spammer, is that you understand just who is the abuser: YOu are a spammer - plain and simple, posting in a newsgroup whose charter prohibits messages such as you continue to try to insert. so, let me parse your latest ill-conceived post: > REPORTED ABUSE > > The post contains a phone number that is no longer associated wit our > organization. gosh - is that so? then i strongly suggest you remove the web pages wherein it is contained - you, or someone in your organization posted it, so it is up to you to take care of any perceived 'problem' now associated with it being there. >This person in his attempts to defame us and do harm has so, posting factual information about you and the org is defamatory? lololol since i only posted what 'you' published out there, how is that possible? simple, factual, information, supplied by you and yours...reposting it is defamatory...lololol if that is harmful to you, then i suppose you have only yourself to hold responsible. do you often go out harming yourself? you should try to stop... > also harmed a third party who he names and gives their phone number. see above - there is nothing harmful about reporting what your organization published. > It also contains false and misleading statements attributed to us. lololololololololololololol - that is just too danged funny spammer - care to back that up? let me see, i posted exact words from your screed - and attributed them correctly with quote marks "" and now you don't like how that makes you look? if now consider those words to be 'false and misleading', then why did you and yours write them? they are, after all, your pages, not mine... > The poster closes this post with a malicious request to "spam our > opperation" (Actually read "spam for his opperation") ahem? you seem to be having a hizzy over your lack of comprehension skills in reading a post - let me refresh your memory by including the entire two lines of my first response to you: >Purchase the full eBook educational course below. ONLY US $9.95 >and of course then you'll need to buy all the proper supplies etc... >Cupper wrote: >spam for his operation do try to keep up - what this 'is' noob, is that i snipped the rest of your polemic, >Two-thirds of the world uses cupping. Scientific evidence has proven >that the blood cells removed from cupping are all dead blood cells - >no live blood cells as if extracted from the vein. This alone shoul be >evidence enough...etc.etc.etc. and called what 'you' wrote "spam for his operation" you were just regurgitating your first spam and trying to justify it...i called it what it is - spam. get it now? [don't answer, because i really don't care if you do] but remember, i do thank you for the laugh. > Our site is all free. irrelevant even if it were true. you have numerous and pointed references trying to garner [guilt] monies. >The educational e-books we offer is an attempt > not to have to solicite funds and they also are offered free upon > request. uh-huh, suuuure, ok, and, not the point. > If this is in violation I would ask it to be removed. as you should, having failed to to exercise due diligence in the first place. >I prefer our > methods to getting someone's e-mail and then hitting them with > repeated appeals for contriutions. lololololololololololololol gosh why am i not surprised to read this folks? >I find our charge for e-books with > the option to request them for free - much more honorable. you write of 'honor' yet you come here and denigrate the reader with phrases like: >The dead blood cells seem to have gone to your brain. >PS I like Medicine Men - old school natural healing as opposed to the >medical mafia. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >If not accepting, so what, it's your body and your medical bills. you really are a hoot youngster! truly you are! now why don't you try going somewhere where you won't be laughed at? Cupper still spewing his venom with: > REPORTED ABUSE TROLL - GET YOUR a.s OUT OF THE NEWSGROUP!!!! Thank you for your note. While we're sympathetic to your request, we're not able to help in this instance. Google is a provider of information, not a mediator. We make no claims about the content of the many posts in our archive. We suggest addressing your concern directly to the author of the post in question. We are not equipped to assess the truth or falsity of statements posted to our site by third parties. Instead, such determinations must be made by a court of law or other government entity. Accordingly, it is our policy, consistent with United States federal law (Section 230(c) of the Communications Decency Act), not to remove postings that are alleged to be defamatory. If you choose to pursue legal action against this author, we are prepared to abide by any orders involving the postings in question. Perhaps the guy who you maliciously named and posted his phone number would like to know his legal recourse. As for me, I have wasted far to much of my time with you already. Like I said, sufficient is God to Judge. Our site is clearly non-commercial as everything can be requested for free. Do and say whatever you like. We will continue to try and help people as you continue to try and destroy people. and so another one rides away into the sunset > Thank you for your note. While we're sympathetic to your request, > we're [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > free. Do and say whatever you like. We will continue to try and help > people as you continue to try and destroy people. Cupper still w.nking with this misinformation: > Our site is clearly non-commercial as everything can > be requested for free. L I A R From your earlier post: > The e-book training program does however cost $9.95 "Cupper" <info@brokenearth.org> wrote in message > Our site is clearly non-commercial as everything can be requested for > free. Do and say whatever you like. We will continue to try and help > people as you continue to try and destroy people. Ok,,, Cupper from brokenearth.org,,,, Every post of yours is off topic for this newsgroup. Every post you have made can be individually reported to the list of internet connections you use or your company uses with its use of the internet. You will not only find yourself answering complaints made to put a stop to your abuse of this newsgroup in hopes of saving your internet servers. You might also find yourself answering the question from brokenearth,,,, why did you not shut up when it became clear books or materials could not be sold here.... Now,,,, If I see another post from you in this newsgroup and it is not about the problems a person has with arthritis,,,, I have told you what is going to happen and you can blame yourself for not being able to shut your mouth and move on. I will donate about an hour of my time to get your service pulled. Here is a part of our charter and what it does for this newsgroup. Harv "CHARTER The proposed group would be intended for discussions about different aspects of arthritis and related autoimmune disorders, such as lupus and scleroderma, mainly from the patient's point of view. Medical discussions are supposed to be informational only, not intended for a substitute of consulting a properly trained medical practitioner. Anyone with an interest in arthritis is free to post, including but not limited to patients, their friends and family members, doctors, and other medical professionals dealing with different forms of arthritis. The following are examples of intended topics: - symptoms and causes of different forms of arthritis - treatments, both conventional and alternative - arthritis-related practical problems and ways to overcome them - social issues relevant to arthritis patients - emotional support - different resources available to people with arthritis Scientific discussions that are likely to interest arthritis patients in general are welcome on misc.health.arthritis, even if cross-posted to sci.med.immunology. Commercial advertisements may NOT be posted to the proposed group." That was actually somewhat informative and productive - why did you not start with that insted of threats and malicious slander? Once again, everything on our site is FREE, FREE for the asking. FREE as in no money. If you wish to supprot our work you may pay oney for the one e-book on our site or you can ask for it for FREE - that makes it a volunteer donation. Different than what you are used to, but notheless, a donation. I have made that crystal clear many times. When I have offerd a cure for arthritis, something of interest to everyone, again something free and useful, you still slandered and made threats. Ridiculed what was said, not just you chief, and you said that there are pills for that. It is you who are making a mockery of this forum, it is you who are obsessing over something rather trival that could have been handled very easily - with good manners and intention. Sure, after attacked, i came back with some similar bad manners, for that I am sorry. But I really hope in the future you do not make such a sport of this and try to leave your emotions at the door. You want to cause me harm. Go ahead, if you get your jollies from such foolishness, be my guest. I just hope you do not do it to others who could easily be swayed with kindness and benefit from your experience. Not these harsh attacks - again this has become a competition with you guys. Give it some thought. > "Cupper" <i...@brokenearth.org> wrote in message > > Our site is clearly non-commercial as everything can be requested for [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Commercial advertisements may NOT be posted to the proposed group." Cupper <info@brokenearth.org> stuck his foot in his mouth with: > When I have offerd a cure for arthritis, something of interest to > everyone, again something free and useful, Thank you. More data for the FDA, claiming to have a "cure" for arthritis. It'll probably interest your state authorities also, practicing medicine without a license. ... Cupper is as stupid as a photocopier. gosh but you drift further from the truth with each post [ not unexpectedly for sure] > That was actually somewhat informative and productive - why did you > not start with that he did, you got warned that spam isn't alowed. more importantly thoulgh, it was and IS your responsibility to check the rules, faq and/or charter of a group before you commence positng as you did. You were lazy and presumptuous enough that you simply neglected to do what was needed. >insted of threats and malicious slander? you are lying...he didn't do any such thing - he issued the standard warning - YOu got testy and wrote several nasty comments - ONLY THEN did i and others begin to take a serious look at you and respond accordingly. i wrote before, check the date/time stamps and remind yourself just began the flames - > Once again, everything on our site is FREE, FREE for the asking. rebutted ad nauseum >FREE > as in no money. horse feathers >If you wish to supprot our work we do not >you may pay oney for > the one e-book on our site or you can ask for it for FREE - gosh but you are stuck repeating yourself over and over - bit blind of lyou >that makes > it a volunteer donation. you can't have it both ways bub, your philosophy makes it crystal clear that the ONLY proper way to participate in your program is by tithe...that isn't free under any definition >Different than what you are used to, your ego again - we've seen all the various approaches many times over the years - yours isn't new, you're just one of many who've tried it. >but > notheless, a donation. by any name, it is a monatary relationship >I have made that crystal clear many times. indeed you've written many times and been rebuffed as often - silly twit > When I have offerd a cure for arthritis, long after being called out for the off-topic and inappropriate orignal posts you tried to redeem yourself with an old chestnut folk remedy well know to everyone here - and you have the gall to call it a 'cure' - more silliness. >something of interest to none > everyone, again something free and useful, untrue - as useful as your earlier untrue claims. >you still slandered and posting your own words is what triggered this silly slander change...poor wuzzims > made threats. promise, not threat >Ridiculed what was said, you blustered, you got tweaked - cause and effect >not just you chief, oh cuppy bubba...you're replying to harvey, not chief...once again you fail to keep up >and you > said that there are pills for that. well, you don't need a purgative, you've accomplished verbal diarrhea all on your own > It is you who are making a mockery of this forum, do you think anyone cares what a thinks? >it is you who are taking care of forcing spammers to face the music? > obsessing over something rather trival while no one here is obsessed with you [you are a mild diversion at best], it is true that you are considered to be tivial. >that could have been handled with disinfectant? > very easily and you have proven to be very easy... >- with good manners and intention. you were given the manners and intention you exhibited >Sure, after attacked, being warned - not attacked - but you continue to lie about don't you? >i > came back with some similar bad manners, the record shows you initiated it. >for that I am sorry. your continued misrepresentation of the linear facts proves otherwise >But I > really hope in the future you do not make such a sport of this dream on spammy >and try > to leave your emotions at the door. what galls you is that we don't care about your supposed reasons - we base things on what you do. > You want to cause me harm. get over yourself - silly thing >Go ahead, one day you'll taunt the wrong person - folks here just laugh at you >if you get your jollies from such > foolishness, be my guest. your invitation was unnecessary >I just hope you do not do it to others who > could easily be swayed with kindness and benefit from your experience. we have no problem discernilng the difference between naifs, slpammers, and trolls...you are not the former. > Not these harsh attacks - puppy, if you think this was harsh you haven't a clue... >again this has become a competition with you > guys. only to you - to us, you don't deserve the attention a true compition would warrent. > Give it some thought. that we did is what has become your problem...lolololol > > "Cupper" <i...@brokenearth.org> wrote in message > > > Our site is clearly non-commercial as everything can be requested for [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > > > Commercial advertisements may NOT be posted to the proposed group." That was actually somewhat informative and productive - why did you not start with that insted of threats and malicious slander? << "Commercial advertisements may NOT be posted to the proposed group" Everything new is fraught with derision by those who cannot seem to understand even a little bit about .. science .. You deal with stupid people .. you have what seems to be .. outrageous .. actions .. THAT is to be expected. Remember that one .. write that one down .. ;) You have run into a few of the most .. hardy .. of the detractors .. and what seems to have been surmised of THEM .. is they have gone nuts somewhere along the line either due to too many drugs and / or .. pain induced .. either way .. expect actions .. how to put this .. hmmmm .. out of the ordinary .. ? They have perfected their .. arsenals .. and that can again only be .. **expected** .. You have to be .. protected .. FROM .. them and that is only by being .. prepared .. for this .. If you have commercial interest on your site .. or make ANY kind of money on your site .. you ARE violating charters and therefore you ARE .. open for attack. If you cannot make a living WITHOUT .. this e-book .. well you are going to have to do some awful lot of convincing to make people believe you AREN'T .. commercial .. If it is as .. important .. as you believe it .. is .. then you may have to change your e-book to a simple download click and or switch it to a .. video .. like some have .. ? and offer it for FREE .. who gives a sht if the guys who ARE practicing it AND making money get it for free .. ? They are ALREADY the ones .. breaching the walls .. so to speak and any HELP you can OFFER these commercial bastards / brothers .. would most likely make a .. **beneficial** .. difference .. and THAT .. is .. what you are .. about .. isn't it .. ? Maybe even make a compilation of what you consider important .. and then link to a video .. and any money is simply a donation .. BUT .. anything there is downloadable for FREE to .. anyone .. for nothing .. otherwise you ARE .. commercial. Period. I glanced at your site .. a bit .. and so cannot really comment on your site .. but .. **commercial** is the key .. word. Get a .. job .. or stay out of certain .. groups .. ? All of the above to be taken in the slight humor .. intended .. They are funding .. though .. for the PROVING of hijama .. and being that you ARE in the South .. you might want to look into .. "Hijama Treatment of Acute Sickle Cell Crisis" .. a very devastating disease and your work would most likely be VERY much appreciated .. not like it seems .. here .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > "Cupper" <i...@brokenearth.org> wrote in message > > > Our site is clearly non-commercial as everything can be requested for [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > You deal with stupid people .. you have what seems to be .. > outrageous .. actions .. Yeah, you DO keep showing up with your stupid tirades. But we've come to expect that from stupid people like you. > Get a .. job .. or stay out of certain .. groups .. ? We certainly wish you'd get a job (maybe a girlfriend if you could find one) to occupy your time and keep you away from the keyboard. Then maybe we'd see less and less of your rantings and ravings. ... If knowledge is dangerous, we have nothing to fear from numbnuts ironjustice. Isn't it strange how ironjustice and cupper do not see the charter does not allow subjects not about arthritis even when shown the charter. Some people need to be shown and more than me are willing to do that. Harv >> You deal with stupid people .. you have what seems to be .. >> outrageous .. actions .. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > ... If knowledge is dangerous, we have nothing to fear from numbnuts > ironjustice. >> On Sep 30, 10:24 pm, "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...@swbell.net> wrote: Isn't it strange how ironjustice and cupper do not see the charter does not allow subjects not about arthritis even when shown the charter. << The .. cupper .. IS .. on charter .. He works with a treatment USED FOR .. arthritis .. YOU don't like it .. sooooo .. you pull the "commercial .. commercial .. look look look he's commercial" .. and NOW you attempt to make it look like you DIDN'T .. pull .. the commercial .. card .. ? ANYTHING the cupper says about his work ON this group .. is in subject .. WHEN he pulls his 'commercial' .. bit .. and now that I've looked at his site a bit .. more .. one really has to look hard to find .. commercial .. soooo .. any piece of flesh he rips off ANYONE in this group .. deserves .. it .. Especially those prone to .. counselling to commit .. crimes .. eh .. Harv .. At least his .. work .. doesn't appear to be .. criminal .. does it .. Harv .. whereas YOUR .. counsel .. IS .. isn't it .. Harv .. And as to ME being on charter .. I would tend to believe I .. would know much better than YOURSELF whether or not a post I make to a .. **medical** / health related newsgroup IS .. related TO that .. specific .. group .. as opposed to YOUR opinion as to whether it belongs or not .. And THAT .. belief is based on .. **merit** .. not past abilities to lug a .. speaker or do .. acid .. Soo .. leave the cupper .. be .. because he IS on charter .. or .. tell the truth .. "it ain't so much you're commercial .. it is more that I am an a.shole" .. Heh .. heh .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > The .. cupper .. IS .. on charter .. Not his isn't. > ANYTHING the cupper says about his work ON this group .. is in > subject .. Not it isn't. > And as to ME being on charter .. I would tend to believe > I .. am the world's greatest spammer and off-topic poster For once the truth from numbnuts. > And THAT .. belief is based on .. **merit** .. not past abilities Your only ability is to incite. > Soo .. leave the cupper .. be .. because he IS on charter .. or .. > tell the truth .. "it ain't so much you're commercial .. it is more > that I am an a.shole" .. You certainly hit the nail on the head when you described yourself in that last sentence. ... Vasectomy: What numbnuts' father didn't have in time. Both he and you are off topic of this newsgroup but you know that and want to run your mouth. By the way,,, Screw you and the horse you rode in on,,,, as if anyone gives a dam what you think. Harv >>> On Sep 30, 10:24 pm, "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...@swbell.net> wrote: > Isn't it strange how ironjustice and cupper do not see the charter [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk sigh > >> On Sep 30, 10:24 pm, "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...@swbell.net> wrote: > Isn't it strange how ironjustice and cupper do not see the charter > does not > allow subjects not about arthritis even when shown the charter. << > > The .. cupper .. IS .. on charter .. no, and you're not helping his cause any - he's going to be rejected no matter what you write. > He works with a treatment USED FOR .. arthritis .. actually he doesn't - not to mention that he throws around the 'cure' word with no factual basis or credential > YOU don't like it .. sooooo .. you pull the "commercial .. > commercial .. look look look he's commercial" .. and NOW you attempt > to make it look like you DIDN'T .. pull .. the commercial .. card .. ? no he didn't change - the man is commercial and that is simply a fact. > ANYTHING the cupper says about his work ON this group .. is in > subject .. not for you to decide for others...get used to it > WHEN he pulls his 'commercial' .. bit .. and now that I've looked at > his site a bit .. more .. one really has to look hard to find .. not hard to find at all, but you know that already and whether is is hard to find or not, it's there which is the only issue. > commercial .. soooo .. any piece of flesh he rips off ANYONE in this > group .. deserves .. it .. but that won't happen except in your imagination > Especially those prone to .. counselling to commit .. crimes .. eh .. > Harv .. lololololololololololol - correction, your 'wild' imagination! > At least his .. work .. doesn't appear to be .. criminal .. does it .. such silliness for you to inject! > Harv .. whereas YOUR .. counsel .. IS .. isn't it .. Harv .. ahem...no, it's not...so silly of you > And as to ME being on charter .. I would tend to believe I .. would be all over the map? > know much better than YOURSELF whether or not a post I make to a .. is but a cut and paste job? > **medical** / health related newsgroup IS .. related TO that .. > specific .. group .. as opposed to YOUR opinion as to whether it > belongs or not .. easy for you to say, harder to actually do though... > And THAT .. belief is based on .. **merit** .. not past abilities to > lug a .. speaker or do .. acid .. ????????? gosh but the above is ridiculous, but only what we have come to expect from you > Soo .. a note to follow fa? >leave the cupper .. be .. let's contemplate this for just a moment....ok, thought about it...no. >because he IS on charter .. or .. any continuation will be met with the exact same response - whether you like it or not. > tell the truth .. "it ain't so much you're commercial .. it is more > that I am an a.shole" .. well, yes you are acting like one, but so what? why should we care? > Heh .. heh .. indeed... > Who loves ya. no one here > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! in your opinion > Man Is A Herbivore! with canine teeth > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING revenge of the zombies? |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2008 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.