Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / February 2006
compression fracture
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Kate - 02 Feb 2006 03:07 GMT Anyone have the kyphoplasty procedure? I have 2 fractures in my thoracic spine, get the MRI Friday to see if I can have this procedure. Any info would be helpful. Kate
RoseB - 02 Feb 2006 03:21 GMT >Anyone have the kyphoplasty procedure? I have 2 fractures in my >thoracic spine, get the MRI Friday to see if I can have this procedure. >Any info would be helpful. Kate Oh no Kate (kropos) I am sorry to hear it. I don;t know anything about it, I just wanted you to know I was thinking about you and had read your post.
I did the thing with your name so that people would be able to distinguish you from the other Kate who is going through STUFF with her arm.
It seems like our Kates are having problems this winter. Rose @}>->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB
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d'huit - 02 Feb 2006 06:22 GMT (((((((((((((((Kate))))))))))))))) man, those fractures sound painful! i sure hope it's not as bad as it sounds. i wish i had info to share, kid. is that the procedure where they inject a kind of cement? please let us know how the mri goes.
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Anyone have the kyphoplasty procedure? I have 2 fractures in my thoracic spine, get the MRI Friday to see if I can have this procedure. Any info would be helpful. Kate
DianeW - 02 Feb 2006 12:54 GMT Kate - Let me say I can honestly feel your pain! I am recovering from two compression fractures in my spine - T11 and T12 right now and had 4 of them 2 and a half years ago. I've never been in so much pain in my life. I've shrunk 4.5 inches as well. Have you measured your height? Where are they? How are you holding out? Are you having trouble sleeping in a bed? I found a recliner to be the only place I could sleep.
To answer your question -I have not had the kyphoplasty. My family doc wanted me to have it this time, but I was so discouraged from having it last time and that combined with a lot of other things going on put me off having it this time. I hear if it's successful, your pain is gone immediately. I had my records reviewed at Mayo Clinic and they told me that if I could recover without it, it was preferable because of my age (50 at the time) The neurosurgeon there told me that they do not have longevity studies yet on the cement that they use as the procedure has been (at that time) only been done for about 12 years and they are were afraid to find out in 20 or more years that it would degrade and leak out and cause paralysis. Mostly he told me the procedure was done on people in there 70-80's and they weren't too worried about longevity at that point. He told me if the pain was getting better and I could live with it, that it was better not to have it. This time my family doc is very gung ho on my having it done. He said he's never heard anything about the cement and even spoke personally to the interventional radiologist who does it here about it and he'd never heard that either. I still didn't have it done. I'm a worrier.
Of course, I have so many other reasons not to have surgery - I take coumadin and that would complecate the surgery. When I was last in the hospital I had a hemotoma in my knee from complications of trying to get my PT/INR right. I can't afford one in my spinal column.
The pain is tolorable and I know it will get better over time. The worst of it has past. The loss in height drives me crazy but they told me there was no guarentee that the height would return completely with the procedure. It's hell buying clothes now and I can't reach anything on the top shelves anymore. I have to have all my closets re-aligned because at 5' 7.5' I didn't have any trouble with them and now I'm cursing all the time and using a reacher because at 5'3" I can't reach anything!
For me, it's been a choice not to have it. Apparently it is better done while the fractures are considered "acute" But Mayo clinic said they have done them as many as 4-6 months out.
Let me know what you decide. Cyberhugs....gentle ones....DianeW
Squirrely - 02 Feb 2006 16:50 GMT Oh Kate, feeling your pain. I know that area from what my chiro said is the least bothered area. I feel for you and hope it heals quickly with whatever has to be done to help you with it. I can not imagine the pain you must be in because of it.
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> Anyone have the kyphoplasty procedure? I have 2 fractures in my > thoracic spine, get the MRI Friday to see if I can have this procedure. > Any info would be helpful. Kate DianeW - 02 Feb 2006 17:30 GMT Squirrely Jo - I don't exactly know what your chiro meant by least bothered, but when I had my fractures there over Christmas, the pain was so severe that I didn't sleep for 4 days even maxed out on my pain meds! Fortunatly the severe pain didn't last longer than two weeks and I was finally able to get the right combo of drugs so I could sleep. I don't know how it is for Kate, but that was how it was for me. Cyberhugs, DianeW
Squirrely - 03 Feb 2006 05:31 GMT Diane,
I read your other post to Kate too. I guess I totally fogged out your fractures to the thoracic. I was somehow thinking your fractures were in the cervical or lumbar area.
My chiro said that most disk problems and fractures happened in the cervical and lumbar areas. I was not by any chance minimizing your pain or anything or saying it couldn't happen. I am really interested in this area as I have so much problems with the thoracic area and the rib cage area running from there. I have started swelling, or maybe I should say developing a hump in that area. It is slight, but when Jim is rubbing my back with that wooden thingy, I can feel him catch on it all the time. I thought it was pushing out more and more, but didn't realize how much till about a month ago when he was rubbing my whole back.
I have had really severe pain in that area several times too. I call it my breather, because when it gets really bad, I don't feel like I can breath. It hurts to take big breath in, to expand that area.
I sure all of you that suffer with this get some help with it. It sounds truly horrifying. I feel for you all that deal with this.
That was alot of good info you included in your post to Kate. I learned alot from your post and what was going on with you.
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> Squirrely Jo - I don't exactly know what your chiro meant by least > bothered, but when I had my fractures there over Christmas, the pain [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > don't know how it is for Kate, but that was how it was for me. > Cyberhugs, DianeW DianeW - 03 Feb 2006 07:06 GMT Oh Squirrely Jo - Not to worry! I didn't think you were minimizing my pain. Only that the chiro might be! LOL That I did have fractures in the lumbar area a few years ago and those did hurt worse than the Thoracic ones did. I'm just tired of the pain. Just plain tired. I kept hitting the wrong keys@ OH there I go again. I'll try again tomorrowl NIte. DianeW
Squirrely - 03 Feb 2006 15:58 GMT I do feel for you big time. The one time I was really bad, I wore my lumbar brace and my son still had to crawl up in bed behind me and hold against my back so that I could get up out of bed to go to the bathroom. I couldn't move without him holding my back to get up out of bed. I was ok, well as ok as you can be when standing and walking in alot of pain. But the pain was so bad I couldn't get out of bed without help.
So when someone is talking about fractures, I cringe. I can't even imagine that kind of pain. I had to stay in bed a month with the one I was telling about above.
Don't you hate how your fingers have a mind of their own. I get so frustrated when I have to keep going back and changing things. ;-)
You take care sweetie and know I am always thinking of you. Same goes for Kate.
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> Oh Squirrely Jo - Not to worry! I didn't think you were minimizing my > pain. Only that the chiro might be! LOL That I did have fractures in > the lumbar area a few years ago and those did hurt worse than the > Thoracic ones did. I'm just tired of the pain. Just plain tired. I > kept hitting the wrong keys@ OH there I go again. I'll try again > tomorrowl NIte. DianeW DianeW - 03 Feb 2006 20:08 GMT Thank you! I actually don't sleep in a bed anymore -- not since I discovered sleeping in a recliner chair which is my recomendation for anyone with spinal fractures. You pop right out of that chair when I pull the control. Much easier than trying to sleep flat. We actually bought a new recliner for the family room and put the old one in the master for me to sleep on. Still do after almost two years. I get better sleep on it than I EVER did in a bed. I actually can sleep for 6-8 hours without waking up. Ever since I got sick sleeping thru the night was only a memory. Now it's a regular event again. DianeW
Nann Bell - 04 Feb 2006 03:58 GMT > Thank you! I actually don't sleep in a bed anymore -- not since I > discovered sleeping in a recliner chair which is my recomendation for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 6-8 hours without waking up. Ever since I got sick sleeping thru the > night was only a memory. Now it's a regular event again. DianeW ya know, i've passed on that recliner recommendation to assorted folks i know out of asa with back or rib problems. just had a thought reading your note though - have you tried one of those recliners that lifts you halfway up to standing? the house my mom lived in while hers was being rebuilt had one of those and everyone fell in love with it. in fact, after my mom moved back home, the owners of the house (friends of the family) gave the recliner to her dad as it had become so popular during my mom's residence.
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DianeW - 04 Feb 2006 04:40 GMT I tried it out at the store. It is very cool but I'm going to rely on my thigh muscles as long as they are working! Got to have some muscles! But thanks for thinking of me. DianeW
spodosaurus - 04 Feb 2006 06:01 GMT > Thank you! I actually don't sleep in a bed anymore -- not since I > discovered sleeping in a recliner chair which is my recomendation for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 6-8 hours without waking up. Ever since I got sick sleeping thru the > night was only a memory. Now it's a regular event again. DianeW We thought about doing this, but they don't make double recliner chairs (at least none available locally) and I can't sleep unless I'm next to my wife. My three spinal fractures seem to be healing now (after a year and 5 months on Actonel) but I think I fractured another metatarsal yesterday. Either that, or I'm about to have a flare of whatever this as yet unnamed autoimmune arthritis is that started attacking me during the last 8 months... I think I'd rather have another spinal fracture than whatever it is that's attacking my thoracic spine and causing its curvature to increase (the doc thinks it's AS, but I'm HLA-B27 negative and there's not much that can be done for me even with a definitive diagnosis).
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d'huit - 04 Feb 2006 07:32 GMT DianeW wrote:
> Thank you! I actually don't sleep in a bed anymore -- not since I > discovered sleeping in a recliner chair which is my recomendation for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 6-8 hours without waking up. Ever since I got sick sleeping thru the > night was only a memory. Now it's a regular event again. DianeW We thought about doing this, but they don't make double recliner chairs (at least none available locally) and I can't sleep unless I'm next to my wife.
they actually make split-queen and. split-king sized beds (with separate/individual sleeper controls), or whole queen. whole king sized beds that have one control unit---these types allow one to sleep in a recliner position. there are also sofas/couches that have side by side recliners built into them--Lane, Lazyboy et al . . .. lots of companies make all of these items. scan the web for them and use their store locator functions to find shopping outlets nearer to you. maybe one of these would help you rest better, ari?
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My three spinal fractures seem to be healing now (after a year and 5 months on Actonel) but I think I fractured another metatarsal yesterday. Either that, or I'm about to have a flare of whatever this as yet unnamed autoimmune arthritis is that started attacking me during the last 8 months... I think I'd rather have another spinal fracture than whatever it is that's attacking my thoracic spine and causing its curvature to increase (the doc thinks it's AS, but I'm HLA-B27 negative and there's not much that can be done for me even with a definitive diagnosis).
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DianeW - 04 Feb 2006 17:25 GMT The recliner works for me because sadly, I can't sleep even in the same room wth my husband. Not only does he snore like a freight train - you can hear him thru the wall - he also flails and is a big guy. One black eye was enough. And that wasn't even as bad as the arm across the chest that stops your breathing. We decided early on that the only way to save this marrage was separate bedrooms. :)
I wonder how Kate is doing? Has anyone heard from her? maybe she had the kyphplasty? I'd be so eager to hear how it worked out if she did. Cyberhugs -- DianeW
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So sorry to hear about the compression fractures you are suffering with. Sounds pretty miserable!!!
Am wondering if kyphoplasty is what KJ had done? Anyone remember???
Sending healing prayers to you Kate!!!
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spodosaurus - 05 Feb 2006 07:33 GMT > The recliner works for me because sadly, I can't sleep even in the same > room wth my husband. Not only does he snore like a freight train - you > can hear him thru the wall - he also flails and is a big guy. One black > eye was enough. Sounds like how my wife sleeps *hides before she sees this*
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DianeW - 05 Feb 2006 18:59 GMT Tee Hee....
spodosaurus - 05 Feb 2006 19:06 GMT > Tee Hee.... I guess she can't be that bad...I haven't lost any teeth yet, and the CPAP mask protects my nose...
Kate - 09 Feb 2006 04:01 GMT I am hanging in there. I had the MRI and the fractures have been there awhile cuz he said he can't do anyting for me. i also have some disc bulging in my lower back which is why it hurts. So I start Boniva for my bones and phyiscal therapy for strengthening . Still those "old" fractures hurt like new ones and sitting at my computer all day at work did not help one bit. So I took a pain pill which I rarely do and I'm going to bed. i feel better laying down than sitting up. Thanks for all your good thoughts Kate
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