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Rosemarie Shiver - DEA Informer 2 of 93

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fred james - 13 Jan 2006 18:57 GMT
This is a reply to "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> who probably
wont like what I have to say.:

>     Yer a fine one to complain about anyone being whiny. Yer whining yet
>again about yer name and yer livelihood being outed....and blabbering all
>over Usenet about yer illegal pill pushing being reported. Heck yeah I turn
>ya in to the DEA. Sue me.
>    If there's a HUGE whiny blubbering baby, it's you yet and still, Kenny
>Juba.
>   Wanna tell everyone again that I'm OCD? It's time for you to do a rerun
>of that canard to try to justify yer silly arse whining. Suck it up or quit
>yer illicit pill pushung, wuss. Can you say relentless? The others may have
>decided it's not worth it but I haven't quit and there's nothing in the
>world you can do to stop me. Except one thing:
>   Click START. Choose 'Shut down computer.' Leave and don't return. That's
>the wisest option. No more 'criminal stalking' of you on Usenet if you do.
>Could already be too late on the other things, tho. <BG>
>Real CP'er Hugs from Rosie
Paul T. Holland - 13 Jan 2006 20:26 GMT
gosh! the proxy posting nym returns... now everyone is going to start pointing
fingers and saying 'not me!!!'

yawn

> This is a reply to "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> who probably
> wont like what I have to say.:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> >Could already be too late on the other things, tho. <BG>
> >Real CP'er Hugs from Rosie
Rack Jite - 15 Jan 2006 21:00 GMT
This is a reply to "Paul T. Holland" <pholland@bellatlantic.net> who probably
wont like what I have to say.:

>gosh! the proxy posting nym returns... now everyone is going to start pointing
>fingers and saying 'not me!!!'
>yawn

Call me Fred if you wish. Dont care! :) Unlike YOU, Fred is not squealing and
informing and posting others home addresses and businesses. He is just posting
what Rosie is so proud of saying. Whats the problem? Oh yeah, the crossposting.
What is that these days around here, a capital offense? Like all caps or HTML?

That new thing I mentioned keeps popping up when I read your crap.
About 99% of the advice given and 99% of those on the net, do not advise to or
use real names. That leaves about 1% in the squealer informing camp you and
Rosie and Morton are in. HOLLAND MORTON AND SHIVER.  
Holland, Morton and Shiver. Sounds good... :)

And it just so happens the three of you squealers supposedly are using your real
names. Up on that mountain, screeching LOOK AT ME, THIS IS WHO I AM, AND I AM A
SQUEALER AND AN INFORMER AND A STALKER AND A EGOMANICIAL a.shole! :)
We get it pal, we hear you... Its loud and its about as clueless as it gets.


>> This is a reply to "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> who probably
>> wont like what I have to say.:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>> >Could already be too late on the other things, tho. <BG>
>> >Real CP'er Hugs from Rosie

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Newsgroup Spambuster - 15 Jan 2006 21:58 GMT
responding to rackjite@houston.rr.com
"Rack Jite" who probably won't like what I have to say:

>We get it pal, we hear you... Its loud and
>its about as clueless as it gets.

Talk about clueless!   They don't come any more clueless than you and
your snivelling, whiny, lying, spamming troll drool that you sputter
here and else where!

IF Rosie and Paul are turning people in or reporting them, then it
clearly is because they are doing something illegal and deserve it!!!

You see, ASCP is SUPPOSED to be a support group, but there is literally
0 support going on over there!   That group does nothing but fight
amongst each other all the time, and when the people doing wrong can't
get anyone to side with them then they force their little quibbles
amongst several other groups trying to get support.   Seems as if you
all would have learned by now, that it just doesn't work that way!!!

You see, your biggest mistake is that you try to force your lies, spam,
whines, and illegal activities on the wrong people.

First of all, those of us in the fibromyalgia group, the arthritis
group, the stop smoking group, etc all know Rosie and Paul far too well
and we all know that they have been a tremendous source of help and
support to many, many people.   Far too many to count.   We know that
they are both very upstanding people who have very compassionate hearts,
and wouldn't be causing problems for someone unless those someones are
clearly doing something illegal and more than likely boasting about it
in a public forum!!!   You and your snivelling little playmates try to
force your whiny little lies and spam and spats on the other support
groups at least 3-4 times a year and every single time you gain no
supporters and Rosie and Paul's friends just stand behind them even more
firmer than before.   You have proven to us time and time again that you
and your little "click" of trouble causing spamming trolls are not worth
the paper your names are written on!

Perhaps you all would do well to take some lessons from the very support
groups that you consistantly flood with your lying, spamming, drivel.
You see, the people in the fibromyalgia group, the arthritis group, and
the quit smoking group, deal with real chronic pain day in and day out,
hour after hour.  Many of us have dealt with far more pain and tragedy
in our lives than you could even imagine, and yet we are able to support
one another, pray for one another, and encourage one another quite well,
thank you very much!   That is what a true support group is all about
and one that you and your so called buddies might take some lessons
from!

So, if you want to call someone clueless, perhaps the best thing for you
and your little puppets, is to take a good long hard look in the mirror
at yourselves and think twice before casting stones at others!!!

Me thinks you doth protest too much and therefore clearly must have
something to hide!!!

Please try growing up a bit and realize that you are not in grade school
anymore.  Keep your fights in your OWN group and quit bothering everyone
else.

The constant, annoying, crossposting and flooding of multiple news
groups with your whiny lies, spam, fighting, drivel is not wanted and is
not welcome.  Fight your own battles in ASCP!!!  

You, and Fred, and Juba, and chris morton, and loose cannon, and
conscience of ascp, and the rest of you, go back to ASCP and fight
amongst yourselves if you see the need to, you will NEVER gain any
support from any of us in the other groups as we have reached a level of
maturity that allows us to support each other even when in pain or even
when we disagree with each other about certain things!

Donna G
Newsgroup Spambuster - 16 Jan 2006 02:23 GMT
Chris Morton - 16 Jan 2006 14:15 GMT
>Call me Fred if you wish.

Or if they don't like that, they can try:

Rack Jite
Muy Groso
Stratosfear
Curmudgeon
Ecliptic
Outman

or your REAL name, David Dahlman (of Seabrook, Texas).

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Juba - 16 Jan 2006 20:48 GMT
> This is a reply to "Paul T. Holland" <pholland@bellatlantic.net> who
> probably wont like what I have to say.:
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> AND A EGOMANICIAL a.shole! :) We get it pal, we hear you... Its loud
> and its about as clueless as it gets.

That is exactly what they do and all three of them have been at it for
many years.

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Chris Morton - 16 Jan 2006 22:05 GMT
>That is exactly what they do and all three of them have been at it for
>many years.

Makes you made enough to hit a woman, doesn't it?

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Paul T. Holland - 16 Jan 2006 23:22 GMT
lol - and how would you characterize your tenure?

your rules youngster

paul

> That is exactly what they do and all three of them have been at it for
> many years.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
> http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
Paul T. Holland - 16 Jan 2006 23:21 GMT
lol

> This is a reply to "Paul T. Holland" <pholland@bellatlantic.net> who probably
> wont like what I have to say.:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Call me Fred if you wish. Dont care! :)

perhaps you don't - but remember, i have always scoffed a the endless speculation
about hwo a troll may be - seems pretty useless until and unless it can be shown to
be factually true...

> Unlike YOU, Fred is not squealing and
> informing and posting others home addresses and businesses.

yawn. s/he/it is, however a proxy posting idjit.

> He is just posting
> what Rosie is so proud of saying.

yup - so, who are your preaching to? not i, i haven't had an issue of what has been
posted in numerical order - it's just  re-post...i find that a perfectly acceptable
thing to do...let's the reader see for themselves, and decide for themselves...now,
kenny does have a problem with it - look at how often he complains when i re-post
his missives...lol

> Whats the problem?

it there one?

> Oh yeah, the crossposting.

does seem to be excessive - but since 'fred' appears to be trying to troll, motive
is not in question.

> What is that these days around here, a capital offense?

gimme a "T", gimme a "R".......

> Like all caps or HTML?

yawn...never been my issue. nor spelling, grammer, etc...such a waste of energy

> That new thing I mentioned keeps popping up when I read your crap.

?????

> About 99% of the advice given and 99% of those on the net, do not advise to or
> use real names.

so? are 99% self-proclaimed wannabe trolls who try to 'shame' their way into
control?

> That leaves about 1% in the squealer informing camp you and
> Rosie and Morton are in.

if you are unable to differentiate between folk then that will have to be your
problem. i know you like to paint broad brush strokes, but here you go too abstract.
imo

> HOLLAND MORTON AND SHIVER.
> Holland, Morton and Shiver. Sounds good... :)

if you think so...

> And it just so happens the three of you squealers supposedly are using your real
> names.

i don't speak for others, so in a singualr mode - yes

> Up on that mountain,

isn't that an  old folk song?

> screeching LOOK AT ME, THIS IS WHO I AM, AND I AM A
> SQUEALER AND AN INFORMER AND A STALKER AND A EGOMANICIAL a.shole! :)

really? you get all that? my - in the eyes of lthe beholder...says more about you
and your mindset,  than about me...

> We get it pal, we hear you...

actually rj,  imo, you hear what you want to...which is an entirely different thing
altogether.

> Its loud and its about as clueless as it gets.

each to their own.

paul
Harvey R. Stone - 17 Jan 2006 04:07 GMT
> lol

Paul,,,, as a favor to me and others,,,, take ASA out of your replies.
There people have a grudge that goes way back and we do not.
Harv
Paul T. Holland - 18 Jan 2006 01:51 GMT
yer right harv - missed that one - apologies

> > lol
>
> Paul,,,, as a favor to me and others,,,, take ASA out of your replies.
> There people have a grudge that goes way back and we do not.
> Harv
Cabbi - 19 Jan 2006 04:43 GMT
Hey! It's not me!!!
Cabbi
> gosh! the proxy posting nym returns... now everyone is going to start
> pointing
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>> >Could already be too late on the other things, tho. <BG>
>> >Real CP'er Hugs from Rosie
Chris Morton - 14 Jan 2006 13:42 GMT
From: "fred james" <fredjames@gmail.com>
Newsgroup: alt.support.chronic-pain, alt.drugs.hard, alt.support.arthritis,
alt.med.fibromyalgia, alt.support.stop-smoking
Subject: Rosemarie Shiver - DEA Informer 2 of 93
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This is a reply to "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> who probably
wont like what I have to say.:

>     Yer a fine one to complain about anyone being whiny. Yer whining yet
>again about yer name and yer livelihood being outed....and blabbering all
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Could already be too late on the other things, tho. <BG>
>Real CP'er Hugs from Rosie

???

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me@privacy.net - 14 Jan 2006 20:56 GMT
>This is a reply to "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> who probably
>wont like what I have to say.:

There's only one thing to say to all this trolling bullshit!
http://osteele.com/words/aargh
Rack Jite - 15 Jan 2006 15:26 GMT
This is a reply to "fred james" <fredjames@gmail.com> who probably wont like
what I have to say.:

>This is a reply to "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> who probably
>wont like what I have to say.:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>>Could already be too late on the other things, tho. <BG>
>>Real CP'er Hugs from Rosie

Ya know Freddy, it would be appreciated if you captured these gems from someone
other than me and my replies. What will people think!???!!
And how many you got in the queue? 93 or 94?

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Chris Morton - 16 Jan 2006 13:42 GMT
>This is a reply to "fred james" <fredjames@gmail.com> who probably wont like
>what I have to say.:
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>other than me and my replies. What will people think!???!!
>And how many you got in the queue? 93 or 94?

Dave Dahlman talking to himself.  Who saw THAT coming...

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Ruada - 20 Jan 2006 09:18 GMT
Yo Dutch, just who and what headers and such are you complaining about this
idiot crossposting too?

From what I can see he's the only one crossposting to places messages do not
belong but you keep posting the x-posting notice without specifying what you
are objecting too  --both the chronic-pain and the stop-smoking groups are
appropriate groups for this thread to be responded to in.  Sometimes limited
x-posting is the correct thing to do.
Juba - 20 Jan 2006 19:20 GMT
> Yo Dutch, just who and what headers and such are you complaining
> about this idiot crossposting too?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> responded to in.  Sometimes limited x-posting is the correct thing to
> do.

That's right Rudie. This message should be crossposted to every group
Rosie frequents and also to alt.drugs.hard so that everyone knows
there's a DEA informer in their midst.

And here's another Rosie Shiver classic that everyone should see:

"Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> wrote in message
news:41dhqaF1e11n2U1@individual.net
> BTW, next time you need hosp. care for, perhaps, appendicitis or
> gall stones or a heart attack I'll spearhead a collection of
> forwarding e-mails copying yer commentary about hospitals and
> pharmaceutical companies only being for profits rather than for some
> humanitarian purposes and for healing people humanely.

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Harvey R. Stone - 21 Jan 2006 04:31 GMT
> That's right Rudie. This message should be crossposted to every group
> Rosie frequents and also to alt.drugs.hard so that everyone knows there's
> a DEA informer in their midst.

It would seem to me that a person should worry about a dealer turning a
buck on people that post in your newsgroup.   People that come there to find
someone that understands their problems and wants to help them live with
their problems.      Not to see how much money can be made from a person
seeking help......
Juba,,,,, you need to rethink your world and your part in it.         :-)
or not.....
Harv
Sunshine&Lollipops - 21 Jan 2006 06:59 GMT
>> That's right Rudie. This message should be crossposted to every group
>> Rosie frequents and also to alt.drugs.hard so that everyone knows
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> or not.....
> Harv

1. Harvey I have dick head (Juba) blocked so I can't see his post.

2.Anyone ever had one of them days where the pain is coming at you from all
angles and it makes you really bitchy?

3. If Juba were next to me right now I'd do things to him that would make a
Vietnam vet puke. (I'm just in that mood from the pain)
I was thinking ECT but he's already a watermelon.

Sunshine N Lollipops
Juba - 22 Jan 2006 23:06 GMT
>> That's right Rudie. This message should be crossposted to every group
>> Rosie frequents and also to alt.drugs.hard so that everyone knows
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> :-) or not.....
> Harv

I'm not a dealer Harv. I'm a webmaster.

I have numerous web sites and many of them carry advertising for legal
online pharmacies. I never said anything about any of my commercial
sites in the chronic pain group until after Rosie Shiver and the other
Kooks started trying to smear me by lying about them.

If I were doing as you say, I'd have links to my commercial sites in my
sig because I have every right to do that. I don't.

In fact, Shiver and the other Kooks who are stalking me have brought a
lot of traffic to my sites and put more money in my pocket because of
their lies. I'm not promoting my commercial sites. I don't have to and I
wouldn't precisely because I don't think it's appropriate in a pain
group, but they are doing it for me.  When Shiver and the other Kooks
falsely accuse me of selling blackmarket drugs on my web sites they
inspire some people to go looking for them. People can eventually find
my commercial sites by following one link to another to another, but I'm
not making it easy for anyone.

Of course the lies will continue, because that's the way Rosie and her
Kook friends try to harass people. I usually ignore most everything they
say, so I'd appreciate it you wouldn't assume that any assertion they
make about me is true just because it goes unchallenged.

You can look for yourself. Or not. But if you're going to talk about me
like this you really should look for yourself and see what I'm actually
doing, rather than take someone else's word for it.
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Harvey R. Stone - 23 Jan 2006 01:06 GMT
> You can look for yourself. Or not. But if you're going to talk about me
> like this you really should look for yourself and see what I'm actually
> doing, rather than take someone else's word for it.

Oh,   I see said the blind man.    You are just your everyday, run of the
mill vindictive spammer that likes to make childish little smashes at your
enemy in newsgroups that you do not even take part in.   You and people like
you are not new to ASA.   You probably spend a little money to hide behind
your server so you can play your games.......    Not going to say
anymore,,,, you are not worth the time and effort.    Rosy is my kind of gal
and has been a solid poster here for lots of years while you can kiss my
a.s.

Harv
Juba - 23 Jan 2006 19:52 GMT
>> You can look for yourself. Or not. But if you're going to talk about
>> me like this you really should look for yourself and see what I'm
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Harv

A typical response from a Rosie Shiver sycophant; ignoring her abuses,
repeating her lies about others despite ample evidence that she is
lying, and proclaiming that anything she does is fine with you.
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