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Diane - 13 Jan 2006 08:41 GMT
i walked a half mile tonight with my dogs. now it's 3:40 and i've been
up and down, unable to sleep, my ankle killing me. i'm driving myself
crazy playing sudoku.

grumble grumble

diane
d'huit - 13 Jan 2006 09:51 GMT
 i am.  and (((((((((((((grumble grumble diane))))))))))))).  not fun when
pain keeps us awake.  was thinking about trying bed again.   but then, here
i am.<smile>

i got bored playing poker with play money online, for the past hour (after
i took my pain pill and while i was waiting for it to kick in, which it
hasn't quite yet).  i'm too lucky at that game.  so, i deliberately
wild-betted away my 8000-odd on a bad hand, to let somebody else win it,
just to make myself leave the website.  bet i made his night.LOL  i had this
fantasy of him sitting there, believing i was the dumbest player in the
history of the game and he, the smartest.  kinda fun to do that for
somebody, and heck, it was just play money.<g>  of course, some players act
like it's real money.  that's kinda funny too.

hope you're resting now, diane.  sweet and painfree dreams -- happy
featherball!<smile>

kate

i walked a half mile tonight with my dogs. now it's 3:40 and i've been
up and down, unable to sleep, my ankle killing me. i'm driving myself
crazy playing sudoku.

grumble grumble

diane
Gwen Love - 14 Jan 2006 00:57 GMT
Kate, where do you play poker with play money?
Gwen

>  i am.  and (((((((((((((grumble grumble diane))))))))))))).  not fun when
> pain keeps us awake.  was thinking about trying bed again.   but then,
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> diane
d'huit - 14 Jan 2006 01:30 GMT
on www.pokerstars.com

kate

Kate, where do you play poker with play money?
Gwen

>  i am.  and (((((((((((((grumble grumble diane))))))))))))).  not fun when
> pain keeps us awake.  was thinking about trying bed again.   but then,
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> diane
Nann Bell - 14 Jan 2006 17:10 GMT
> on www.pokerstars.com
>
> kate

do you like it there?  i've tried to get mike on it, but he insists he wants
to play with people he can see.  

normally that's ok as we've agreed on a budget for his poker, but i got
rather upset when he woke me this morning to say he was off to play.  nearest
place to play is ~140 miles away so he'd be leaving me for a goood 13 hours
or more with only my non-dominant hand working.  he decided to stay closer to
home after listening to me a bit.    ;)

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d'huit - 14 Jan 2006 19:41 GMT
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:30:24 -0500, d'huit wrote
(in message <xMmdnRQXOfGkyVXeRVn-tA@comcast.com>):

> on www.pokerstars.com
>
> kate

do you like it there?  i've tried to get mike on it, but he insists he wants
to play with people he can see.

normally that's ok as we've agreed on a budget for his poker, but i got
rather upset when he woke me this morning to say he was off to play.
nearest
place to play is ~140 miles away so he'd be leaving me for a goood 13 hours
or more with only my non-dominant hand working.  he decided to stay closer
to
home after listening to me a bit.    ;)

(((((((hugs)))))) that seems to be the result of being the clearly
recognizable independent, self-sufficient women that we are.  we adapt so
well, that others don't necessarily think about the things we cannot do,
even immediately after surgery.   hope you are feeling much better today.
sweetie.

actually, tell mike, that it's better to play the cards than the people.
not having one's inclinations distracted, by theatrics, makes one a better
player.  it's a very good site and one can play either at play money or real
money tabless there.  and there are tournaments one can enter; some leading
to the real high stakes, world class multi-million dollar championships (i'm
not that competitive).  players can even chat with each other during the
game.

for me, it's all really about sating my temporary need to compete in
something.<smile>  or filling in a block of time, without overworking  my
usable, though afflicted, hand.

kate

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Nann Bell - 16 Jan 2006 19:59 GMT
lol, yeah, i told mike he's too used to me being fairly self-sufficient.  for
a while i felt guilty about making him stay closer to home, even though i
didn't really need that much, but i talked myself out of the guilt.  ;)  he's
my security blanket and he'll just have to live with that!  lol

after watching some of the world poker tour on tv sat. he started playing on
partypoker.net which was advertised a lot on the tv show.  he's been having
fun i think, though he still looks forward to playing at soaring eagle when
he can get there.  he comes from a card playing family - his vision of heaven
includes pinochle with the family.
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> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:30:24 -0500, d'huit wrote
> (in message <xMmdnRQXOfGkyVXeRVn-tA@comcast.com>):
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Jo Firey - 16 Jan 2006 22:37 GMT
> lol, yeah, i told mike he's too used to me being fairly self-sufficient.
> for
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> heaven
> includes pinochle with the family.

LOL

I know the feeling.  I still occasionally have to say to Charlie "What part
of I'm deaf don't you understand?"

He forgets.  Can't remember why I can't answer the phone, call an
electrician, call DirecTV cause the box in the living room doesn't work etc.

He is really truly convinced some where inside that I could really hear if I
really wanted to.

We were getting better till I got the implant, and its like being back to
stage one.  Just because I can now carry on a conversation with it on,
doesn't mean I can hear anything if its off.

He's a love though.  Will do anything for me.  Sometimes.

Jo
Nann Bell - 17 Jan 2006 14:50 GMT
lol, it was strange yesterday - i had to get mike to call and reschedule my
post-op appt. for a more convenient time for him - it's 80 miles away soo i
need him to drive me, but i kept wanting to explain why he was calling
instead of me!  

and when the nurse called from the amb. surgery center to see how the weekend
went, she seemed rather taken aback by my reply of "oh, fine."  and they were
surprised friday that we didn't feel a need for mike to be with me every
minute until i went in - yes, i was going under general, but it was quite a
minor, routine op and mike was hungry for lunch... ........

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>> lol, yeah, i told mike he's too used to me being fairly self-sufficient.
>> for
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> Jo
d'huit - 17 Jan 2006 18:49 GMT
lol, yeah, i told mike he's too used to me being fairly self-sufficient.
for
a while i felt guilty about making him stay closer to home, even though i
didn't really need that much, but i talked myself out of the guilt.  ;)
he's
my security blanket and he'll just have to live with that!  lol

****y'know, i've had soooo many surgeries, since i was 23, that i,
personally, tend to minimize the potentiality for post-op dangers (even in
relatively minor operations), days later.  i have to force myself to
remember--- it was ten days after my first car wreck surgery that i suddenly
had an outrageous fever spike, that even my nurse was astonnished by and
couldn't believe the thermometer (she rechecked it 3 times with different
electronic thermometers and then, with the old fashioned kind).  it was
three days later, after a "very minor" surgery, that a blood clot broke
loose from the wound site and stopped my grandmother's heart, in the 1970s.

****so, you are intuitively very wise and spot-on in wanting and needing
mike to be close at hand, for a security blanket.  post-op doesn't mean that
we've crossed into some invisble safety zone.  it just means post-op.  and
post-op requires watchfulness.

after watching some of the world poker tour on tv sat. he started playing on
partypoker.net which was advertised a lot on the tv show.  he's been having
fun i think, though he still looks forward to playing at soaring eagle when
he can get there.  he comes from a card playing family - his vision of
heaven
includes pinochle with the family.

****<smile>  and at partypoker. net, he can join in the tourneys, if he has
the inclination to go for the gold.  i love pinochle!  butch and his sister
taught me that game and lots of variations--- i married a man from a card
plying family, too, as well as, coming from a card playing family myself.

kate
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:41:51 -0500, d'huit wrote
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>> on www.pokerstars.com
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Gwen Love - 17 Jan 2006 21:18 GMT
Before Grayson and I had children, we lived in the house with a couple who
became very good friends; they played pinochle.  We learned and would sit up
nearly all night playing pinochle, and two had to be at work the next
morning!
Haven't had anyone to play with in so long I doubt if I could play now.  But
it was fun!
Gwen

> lol, yeah, i told mike he's too used to me being fairly self-sufficient.
> for
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MikesBrain - 13 Jan 2006 10:19 GMT
2006-01-13, Responding to Diane...
> i walked a half mile tonight with my dogs. now it's 3:40 and i've been
> up and down, unable to sleep, my ankle killing me. i'm driving myself
> crazy playing sudoku.
>
> grumble grumble

Now ain't that a co-incidence!

I've just had a really bad night that started about
mid-evening. I'm sitting here at about 10am with a throbbing
neck and hands that seem to have forgotten how to spell.

And this is in the UK, at the top end of the Pennine range.

Sounds like a wide-spread weather thing to me.

Catty seems ok though, so I guess it'll just be for today.

Mike@N.UK
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Donald Whitely - 13 Jan 2006 12:40 GMT
Hi,

My Tibetan Terrier came up and gave me usual lick on the back of the
head at 4:36AM and then cuddled next to my feet.

So here I am still up  checking messages and newsgroup at 6:38 AM.
About to go back to bed.  SIL posted at 4:38 AM.

Don Whitely

> i walked a half mile tonight with my dogs. now it's 3:40 and i've been
> up and down, unable to sleep, my ankle killing me. i'm driving myself
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> diane
Nann Bell - 13 Jan 2006 13:50 GMT
> i walked a half mile tonight with my dogs. now it's 3:40 and i've been
> up and down, unable to sleep, my ankle killing me. i'm driving myself
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> diane

(((((((((((diane)))))))))))

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Diane - 13 Jan 2006 17:23 GMT
nann, sweet of you to reply on your surgery day!

took some more tylenol and a xanax and finally knocked myself out. woke
up at 11:30 am. lost a morning because of a gentle 20 minute walk. i
think it's time to go get a shot in the ol' ankle.

thanks for the company,

diane
Nann Bell - 14 Jan 2006 02:42 GMT
> nann, sweet of you to reply on your surgery day!

heh, we didn't have to be there until noon - 80 miles away so we left at 9:45
as it's been insanely warm here and we didn' have to worry about icy roads.  
instead we hit HEAVY fog at the high ground mid-state.  a litle too much fun.

> took some more tylenol and a xanax and finally knocked myself out. woke
> up at 11:30 am. lost a morning because of a gentle 20 minute walk. i
> think it's time to go get a shot in the ol' ankle.

well, thank goodness you got some rest!

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jb - 13 Jan 2006 20:16 GMT
|i walked a half mile tonight with my dogs. now it's 3:40 and i've been
| up and down, unable to sleep, my ankle killing me. i'm driving myself
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| diane
hope you are feeling better
| how do u play sudoku
i cant figure it out
janice
Diane - 13 Jan 2006 21:27 GMT
janice, re: sudoku.

i don't know that i've figured it out either. i keep thinking there's a
trick i'm missing because i am soooooo slow at it. in general, you have
to get 1-9 in each of the 9 squares as well as in each horizontal and
vertical line without repeating any of the numbers within the squares
or the lines. i just sit and stare at it until i can see a place for a
number, then keep on working at it. online, i'm still struggling with
the "easy" ones, trying to get my time down to the average time. i DID
do one of the hard ones in my newspaper, but it took over an hour! i
tell myself it's good for my fog brain.

anyone know any tricks to sudoku-solving?

diane
Jo Firey - 14 Jan 2006 00:18 GMT
> janice, re: sudoku.
>
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>
> diane

Just what you have said, and looking at each block and deciding what it
can't be based on the "3 rules" and then filling it in if I can eliminate
all but one number.  I usually start with whatever number is already there
the most and trying to get that number in all nine squares, etc.  Then
filling in the squares that have the most numbers or rows or lines.  Then
start all over.  They play with the dog.  Then look at it again.

Part of the trick is remembering it really doesn't have anything at all to
do with math or numbers at all.  It could be any nine symbols.  And just
logic.  ie "it can't be any of the numbers already in the square or row or
line, so what is left?

Jo
Pam Cook - 14 Jan 2006 23:14 GMT
> janice, re: sudoku.
>
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> diane
> hi
  yeah, love it...just take the top three squares fist and check for 1s  if
there are 2 of them then there must be a 1 in the square of nine without a 1
maybe thre is only one blank square in that row...u can fill it in...or if
there are more empty squares then try to illiminate them by lookin to see if
there are any 1s in the lines goin up and down...do this through to nine and
then move on to the middle row...then the bottom row...then work on the
three sqare to your left..then the middle three   and so on...as u put in
more numbers u open up more chances to check...then u have to go to
individual lines and squares.....   checkin for missing numbers...sounds
complicated but you soon get the hang of it and can pick out the relevant
numbers easily....any one know if u can play this on computer?
HTH
Pam
Diane - 15 Jan 2006 03:35 GMT
thanks pam. i think i understand. lol.
yes, someone on this loop told me about the online site. websudoku.com

have fun!

diane
Diane - 15 Jan 2006 03:35 GMT
thanks pam. i think i understand. lol.
yes, someone on this loop told me about the online site. websudoku.com

have fun!

diane
Jo Firey - 13 Jan 2006 21:33 GMT
>i walked a half mile tonight with my dogs. now it's 3:40 and i've been
> up and down, unable to sleep, my ankle killing me. i'm driving myself
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>
> diane

Go back to bubbles.  You can play that practically in your sleep.  Sudoku
just gets more aggravating the more you play it.

Charlie bought me a little electronic sudoku game at Christmas plus it is in
our paper daily.  I play a lot cause that is something I can do and still
attempt to supervise the puppy.  I get up when it's good and light out, open
the back door a little ways, let her out of her crate, give her food and
water and make coffee.  (toys are already everywhere,  inside and outside.)
And try to drink my coffee and play sudoku for an hour.  Then she will take
a nap in her crate and I can grab some more sleep and then its Charlie's
turn.

My back is killing me.  Probably from bending over to pick up and throw
various dog toys.  Charlie dragged me into the doctor yesterday and I got a
shot that seems to be helping, and some encouragement to actually take more
of my pain pills.

Hope your ankle settles down soon.

Jo
jb - 16 Jan 2006 03:55 GMT
i have lost bubbles
can you foward to my email??
thanks
janice

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| > up and down, unable to sleep, my ankle killing me. i'm driving myself
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| Jo
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 17 Jan 2006 18:41 GMT
{{{{{Diane}}}}}

DeeTee

>i have lost bubbles
> can you foward to my email??
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> |
> | Jo
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 14 Jan 2006 03:25 GMT
I was like that last night. Finally gave in, took an ultram and was soon
asleep. Today the feet hurt, but not like last night!

{{{{{{{{Diane}}}}}}}}}

DeeTee

>i walked a half mile tonight with my dogs. now it's 3:40 and i've been
> up and down, unable to sleep, my ankle killing me. i'm driving myself
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>
> diane
 
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