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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 12 Jan 2006 03:53 GMT
Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
disapproved. However, since my brother-in-law was nearly dead when they
initially disapproved him, we weren't surprised. It said basically that
since I had been doing secretarial work for nearly 25 years, I could still
do that. One statement that blew me away was: "You are able to stand and
walk about 6 hours out of an 8 hour day."  HOW did they come up with THAT???
Anyway, I plan to appeal while I look around for a part-time job to
supplement our meager income. We paid the final today for our flight and
cruise so that's solid.

Anyone bringing the cheese?

DeeTee
Leslie - 12 Jan 2006 04:45 GMT
Sorry you got that bad news.  It's a shame they are so narrow minded
and can't understand what they see in your medical records.  You might
want to spend the money for a Functional Capacity Exam.  Mine cost $430
five years ago for about 2+ hrs. of testing, but my insurance co. paid
for it since my doc ordered it.  They will test you on various machines
that *measure* your ROM, ability to stand, sit, lift, walk, etc.  It's
pretty concrete evidence that even a fool can understand.  (One note-
don't take your meds before the test.  You want to be at your very
worst for the testing.)  Do give it your best, feeble effort.  The
examiners will note whether you are truly trying or not.  Mine was done
at a large physical therapy treatment center where they had all the
equipment.  I was approved in 3 weeks after my first application for SS
disability- I credit the FCE and the well written report I received as
well as extensive medical records.

Good luck.

L.
Carole - 12 Jan 2006 06:12 GMT
Everyone told me if I got disapproved to get a lawyer and fight it.
Luckily with my heart condition, the test results got me approved with
no problem. But you might want to consider a lawyer, DeeTee. I'm sorry
this happened to you. HUGS!

Carole

> Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
> disapproved. However, since my brother-in-law was nearly dead when they
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> DeeTee
Thumper - 12 Jan 2006 12:12 GMT
>Everyone told me if I got disapproved to get a lawyer and fight it.
>Luckily with my heart condition, the test results got me approved with
>no problem. But you might want to consider a lawyer, DeeTee. I'm sorry
>this happened to you. HUGS!

Better yet look into a SS advocate.  They're a lot cheaper than a
lawyer and just as effective in my opinion.
Thumper
>Carole
>
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>> DeeTee
Norman - 12 Jan 2006 07:05 GMT
I'm really sorry you are having to go through this.

One suggestion I make whenever someone has trouble with the government or with
government agencies is to talk to senators, congressmen, etc. They've got to be
good for something, and they usually like to do things which will get them good
publicity (esp. if it doesn't cost them any money). They may also "know
somebody important."

If you do need a doctor, maybe one of your doctors know of one who has been
successful for someone else.

Good Luck.

> Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
> disapproved. However, since my brother-in-law was nearly dead when they
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> DeeTee
MaryLou - 12 Jan 2006 08:05 GMT
>Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
>disapproved. However, since my brother-in-law was nearly dead when they
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>supplement our meager income. We paid the final today for our flight and
>cruise so that's solid.

I was denied, filed for reconsideration and denied again.  
Not only was it frustrating and stressful, i felt like i was being accused of
lying or something.  They told me i *could* do certain things i *can't*, like
sitting/standing for hours at a time, bending over, and frequently lifting 10
pounds, occasionally 20.  I have pain when i lift *5* pounds, and a useless
numb hand that drops things.

I got an attorney, and had my ALJ hearing in December.  Still waiting to find
out the outcome by mail, probably in a couple weeks.  I haven't worked since
Oct 2004.  It's very frustrating and i sympathize.  For me, what with  the
physical therapy, diagnosing and new diagnosing, multiple medication trials,
x-rays and MRI's and psych visits and dr. visits and just being in a lot of
pain and the indignity that comes with not being able to do a lot of things,
last thing i needed was hassling with all this paperwork and phone calls and
denials and stuff!

Word of caution, be careful about how getting the part-time work in the
meantime will affect your claim.  It might be interpreted as not being
disabled.  I'm very fortunate in that my income wasn't absolutely necessary
in our household!  An attorney is a good idea, one who you won't have to pay
unless you are approved.  Good luck!
Nann Bell - 12 Jan 2006 13:47 GMT
> Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
> disapproved. However, since my brother-in-law was nearly dead when they
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> DeeTee

well, being denied the first time out is almost routine unless you have
superbly written reports.  Mike periodically asks why I've never filed and I
have to re-explain the problems with having had a string of docs in different
towns, some of them incompetent, over the past few years.

I'm in the group that says go ahead and hire a disability lawyer - ask around
for recommendations.  Of course I may be prejudiced as one of Mike's uncles
is an SSDI lawyer (and a retired SS judge), but I know the lengths he will go
to for his clients and the way he knows how to work the system.  Also, an
SSDI lawyer can fill you in on the advisability of getting a part-time job
while trying to get SSDI.

Keep working at it!

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Paul G. - 12 Jan 2006 17:12 GMT
That is very frustrating, but keep at it. I'm Canadian and on our
federal disibility pension.
I had to apply and re-apply 3 times. Finally my doctor worded the
application correctly
and they started my benefits.
The great thing was that payments were all retroactive from the date on
the first application.

The wording that the Canadian Pension board want to see from the doctor
is: Prolonged
and Severe. Those two seem to be the criteria by which they accept the
application.

Tell your doctor to include Severe and Prolonged a half dozen times on
the application
if needs be.

All the best.

Paul G.
Carole - 12 Jan 2006 18:58 GMT
I know you need the money but the part time job may be a real problem.
When I applied, I was asked over and over again "When is the last day
you worked?". As someone else suggested, ask a lawyer (or an advocate)
about that.  I am not allowed to work, so with me it wasn't a problem,
but I was getting short term disability from my job so at least I had
some money coming in. The other option (depending on who you know) is to
find a job 'off the radar' as it were :-)

Hugs,
Carole
debbie m - 12 Jan 2006 20:41 GMT
Dee Tee,

It's not unusual to be denied the first time.  I got a Soc. Sec. Lawyer
after the first denial.  It didn't cost me anything up front.  They get
part of your backpay but it was worth it to me.

It took three times and going before a judge before I was accepted, but
it was well worth it to hang in there.

Ask a lawyer about working part time.  It might effect the outcome.

debbie m.
Rosemarie Shiver - 12 Jan 2006 22:00 GMT
{{{{DT & Bob}}}}

Hugs from Rosie

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> Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
> disapproved. However, since my brother-in-law was nearly dead when they
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> DeeTee
d'huit - 13 Jan 2006 10:01 GMT
do you prefer smoked edam or gouda?  bummer, kid.
((((((((((((((deetee)))))))))))  well, at least the cruise will be great!

kate

Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
disapproved. However, since my brother-in-law was nearly dead when they
initially disapproved him, we weren't surprised. It said basically that
since I had been doing secretarial work for nearly 25 years, I could still
do that. One statement that blew me away was: "You are able to stand and
walk about 6 hours out of an 8 hour day."  HOW did they come up with THAT???
Anyway, I plan to appeal while I look around for a part-time job to
supplement our meager income. We paid the final today for our flight and
cruise so that's solid.

Anyone bringing the cheese?

DeeTee
Thumper - 13 Jan 2006 11:56 GMT
>do you prefer smoked edam or gouda?  bummer, kid.
>((((((((((((((deetee)))))))))))  well, at least the cruise will be great!
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>
>DeeTee

You need an advocate.  I don't know what lawyers charge where you are
but around here they take 100% of retroactive SS payments which
average a year's worth.  My co-worker got a SS Advocate  to do the
same thing as a lawyer and they only took 3 or 4 months worth.
Thumper
Cindy - 13 Jan 2006 15:59 GMT
My LTD insurance company set up Allsup to do mine.
They filled out all the paperwork and stuff for me.
You can find them online at www.allsup.com
They charge you just as the law allows. 25% or 5400.00
That is if they win your case. We did Mikes with an attorney. I have to say
Allsup was much easier. The attorneys did nothing to help us with the
paperwork.
And as you know there is alot with them asking the same questions over and
over...
Not trying to spam here...Just giving you the facts as they applied to
me...If you have any questions, you can email me at cindyl 57   @
sbcglobal.net
They started mine from the very beginning and I was denied 2, and was
suppose to go to hearing...They got it done without a hearing...Started July
03...Was approved March 05...Got my backpay...April 05 and my check started
in May...
Hope this helps..
Hugs Cindy
> Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
> disapproved. However, since my brother-in-law was nearly dead when they
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> DeeTee
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 14 Jan 2006 03:22 GMT
I actually have Allsup bookmarked already, just in case. :-D  There are lots
of options.  I am not gonna look for a job because my husband and I can
squeak by on just his retirements for now.  I plan on using either Allsup or
Binder & Binder.  Right now I just needed a break from it all. I'll start
again next week.

Thank you to ALL who answered and for all the encouragement. We expected
this initial outcome so it wasn't a blow to us. I'll keep you informed.

DeeTee

> My LTD insurance company set up Allsup to do mine.
> They filled out all the paperwork and stuff for me.
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>> DeeTee
Cindy - 15 Jan 2006 15:31 GMT
My brother inlaw used Binder and Binder...I know that every case is
different...But it took them a long time...
And when he went to hearing...They told him it didn't look good...But he
WON!!!So who knows...
Cindy
>I actually have Allsup bookmarked already, just in case. :-D  There are
>lots of options.  I am not gonna look for a job because my husband and I
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>>> DeeTee
Newsgroup Spambuster - 15 Jan 2006 22:18 GMT
DeeTee,

Sorry to hear that your disability was turned down the first time
through, but have faith!!!   Like many have already said, it is not
uncommon to be turned down multiple times, and getting a lawyer to help
out may be very beneficial to you.  Take the time you need to rest up a
bit and then jump back in and go for it!!!   Will be praying that the
second time around is the one for you!!!

Donna G
jb - 13 Jan 2006 20:19 GMT
so sorry
better luck when you retry. thinking of you
janice

| Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
| disapproved. However, since my brother-in-law was nearly dead when they
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| DeeTee
Squirrely - 16 Jan 2006 06:10 GMT
Dee Tee,

I wish you the best outcome with the next filing. I sure hope things go well
for you.

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> Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
> disapproved. However, since my brother-in-law was nearly dead when they
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> DeeTee
Di - 16 Jan 2006 13:41 GMT
> Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
> disapproved. .................
>
> Anyone bringing the cheese?
>
> DeeTee

Awwww, DeeTee, that sucks.  What kind of cheese should I bring? <sigh>
(Fact is, I wish I could bring some cheese, so I could give you a real
hug.)

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Thumper - 16 Jan 2006 22:49 GMT
>> Heavy sigh. Pity party at my house. My disability claim has been
>> disapproved. .................
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My friend's wife was just approved for disability at around $500 a
month.  It is taxable income and out of what is left she must go on
medicare even though they have their own health plan.  Another $80 per
month.  There won't be much left.
Thumper
Carole - 17 Jan 2006 01:31 GMT
> My friend's wife was just approved for disability at around $500 a
> month.  It is taxable income and out of what is left she must go on
> medicare even though they have their own health plan.  Another $80 per
> month.  There won't be much left.
> Thumper

How is she getting medicare? I have to wait 2 years to get medicare, so
I'm paying for insurance through COBRA from my last job. I wish I could
get medicare as it's a LOT cheaper.

Carole
Thumper - 17 Jan 2006 23:13 GMT
>> My friend's wife was just approved for disability at around $500 a
>> month.  It is taxable income and out of what is left she must go on
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>Carole

I thought everyone had to wait 2 years for medicare after being
approved for SSD but he swears they told him she HAS to go on medicare
now.
Thumper
Carole - 18 Jan 2006 07:21 GMT
> I thought everyone had to wait 2 years for medicare after being
> approved for SSD but he swears they told him she HAS to go on medicare
> now.
> Thumper

Everyone I know was told two years. I even wrote to my Congressperson
about it as it seems ridiculous to declare someone disabled and then say
they have to wait two years to get medical coverage.  He might want to
call again as I sometimes find that not all employees are up on things
and I think in this case he was given misinformation.  This is what is
on the Social Security website about it:

Before age 65, you are eligible for Medicare hospital insurance if you:

*    get Social Security disability benefits and have amyotrophic lateral
sclerosis (Lou Gehrig's) disease; or
*    have been a Social Security disability beneficiary for 24 months; or
*    have worked long enough in a federal, state, or local government job
and you meet the requirements of the Social Security disability program.

If you receive a disability annuity from the Railroad Retirement Board,
you will be eligible for hospital insurance after a waiting period.
(Contact your railroad retirement office for details.)

Carole
Jo Firey - 18 Jan 2006 07:52 GMT
>> I thought everyone had to wait 2 years for medicare after being
>> approved for SSD but he swears they told him she HAS to go on medicare
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>
> Carole

That is how I understand to too.

Though you did get your disability approved fairly quickly.  Thank God.

Many of us, by the time we are finally approved and covered back to the
original date of disability have nearly met the 24 month requirement.

Jo
Thumper - 18 Jan 2006 21:18 GMT
>> I thought everyone had to wait 2 years for medicare after being
>> approved for SSD but he swears they told him she HAS to go on medicare
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>
>Carole

That's the way I read it also but he insists that they first sent him
a letter saying that they would take the first 2 month's payments out
of the retroactive check, then got a bill as it's taking a while to
get the money flowing.

He went to an SSD advocate instead of a lawyer and it only took a few
months after they were originally turned down.  The hardest part was
trying to get all the doctors to give ALL the info.  It didn't seem as
though there was much incentive fort he doctors to go to the trouble
of documenting everything that went on.  I know he had to fight with
the doctors to go back further and put EVERY procedure she had down.

I told him to triple check about Medicare.  He is actually kind of
happy because she loses his company health care if he dies.  
Thumper
 
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