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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / January 2006

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stupid question abt AS

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RK - 31 Dec 2005 19:47 GMT
I was reading one of those articles spodosaurus posted.. well it was talking
abt
spinal stenosis being an effect of AS.  Well heres the funny thing, back
when I was
25 and had my auto accident that herniated L4-5 and found L3-4 was
bulging -- I
had severe stenosis at L4-5 -- matter fact my neurosurgeon said he'd never
seen it
that bad in a person so young.  It's usually from many years of "trauma" to
the back,
how he explained it happens..

Another thing that I read was... the knees are often effected.  Not sure if
mine are or
not, just know often I have a hell of a time climbing stairs, their hot to
touch after
a normal days activities (lol I made a funny!) but I do recall back when I
was a teen
and early 20's that my knees ached and were hot like that also.. saw a few
sports docs
and they all blew it off as "growing pains".

Now, could my knees and stenosis have been caused by AS and just not caught?

And you know if I ask a doctor that, they'll say, "absolutely not!" -- yeah
just dont want me to sue your a.s for screwing up the rest of my life..
being 38 and a body of
a 98yr old.

anyhow, just wondering was all.
Charrlygrl1 - 01 Jan 2006 19:06 GMT
Omg, I just posted a long answer, and google made it disappear.
There is a chart at Spondylitis.org that shows knee involvement at only
20%.
It shows wrist involvement at only 5%, and mine actually started in my
wrists, so I don't know how much I trust the chart. Also, it could be
that AS in women is known to generally attack the peripheral joints
more than the back where in men, it is mostly focused in the back.
I think there is a definite chance that your stenosis could've been
related to the AS. Since the hallmark of AS is changes to the SI
joints, and since changes in the SI joints aren't apparent on xrays
years or sometimes even decades depending on the severity of the AS, it
is entirely possible that it wasn't noticed at that time.
A lot of people on AS boards talk about stenosis in different areas of
the spine.
As far as knees, I have the same problem with stairs. I also have the
same issues with my joints being hot. However, I rarely experience any
swelling and my sed rate is almost always low. (70% of ASrs have low
sed rates).
So who know if it was related? Probably was in my humble opinion after
talking to other Asers about their experiences.
Not that that is much of an answer, but there it is,
Char
RK - 01 Jan 2006 20:12 GMT
| Omg, I just posted a long answer, and google made it disappear.
| There is a chart at Spondylitis.org that shows knee involvement at only
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| Not that that is much of an answer, but there it is,
| Char

Thanks Char..

pretty much what I thought.  I don't know what my SED rate is., don't know
if it was even checked, my RA Factor was, A27, C-Reactive Protein and one
other I think.

why I asked here, doctors tend not to want to "admit" anything when you ask
them.. "well is this a result?" probably because if they did, since it's
been going
on for long... they'd get a smack upside the head for not figuring it out
sooner.

I haven't had my knees xrayed, but I have my wrists and theres almost a 75%
cartiledge loss in my right hand in just under a year! No wonder it hurts so
damn
much... also the bone going from thumb to wrist has a knot on it and usually
hurts
like hell to touch it, (I know, lol dont touch it) my left wrist has a
smaller knot, but
it doesn't hurt. -- LOL and my knees are so dang boney! Then again, hubby
says I
have chicken legs because theres zero fat on them, all muscle.

Well I have that appt at the other RD tuesday, I'll discuss it with her
then.  Hopefully
we can get this ball rolling...

Thanks again... knew another ASer wld know :-)

Reisa
Charrlygrl1 - 03 Jan 2006 16:01 GMT
Reisa,
I have trouble with the thumb to the wrist as well.! I haven't really
seen too many Asers talk about it, though.
I have had cortisone shots (three so far )in both of my wrists and last
time I also had a shot in my left thumb. Does the area of your thumb
pad hurt you? Do you have trouble picking up or grasping things?
This past few days, the shots have finally worn off, because my left
wrist/hand hurt so much. I've had to go back to wearing my brace.
I hope that all goes well with your Rd appointment,
Char
 
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