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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / December 2005Arthritis is caused by LAZINESS !!!
Move you fat butts and your athritis will go away !!!! Well that saved a fortune in research! Wow, Kelly > Move you fat butts and your athritis will go away !!!! "Gerard Mindstep" <piano_nerds@yahoo.fr> Arthritis is caused by LAZINESS !!! <1135390396.668549.175750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> >Move you fat butts and your athritis will go away !!!! We obviously need more chlorine in the gene pool. What a dipsh*t. -- Lyn (filethirteen@shaw.ca) remember..."ASA" in subject line http://members.shaw.ca/Lynuplate/ Ok... I think I'll do that... I'm so overweight it's pitiful. I'm 6'3 and weigh 124 pounds. I'm really huge, right guys??? *smile*  SignatureYanosz who hates being thin > "Gerard Mindstep" <piano_nerds@yahoo.fr> Arthritis is caused by > LAZINESS !!! <1135390396.668549.175750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://members.shaw.ca/Lynuplate/ >Move you fat butts and your athritis will go away !!!! you move YOU fat butt! (what a dork!) Arthritis does not go away as it is irreversible There are 2 broad types of arthritis 1. Osteoarthritis. 2 Systemic/Rheumatoid arthritis You should consult with your physician to find out of you just have degenerative arthitis. In this case balance between exercise and rest can help improve your function. However if you have systemic arthritis you should not exs too much instead consult with your doctor to know how inflammation can be controlled and only then start exercises under guidance of a physical therapist. If you want further resources go to www.arthritis.org hope this helps. http://www.velostone.com aircast physical therapy products. Comedy is not a future career for you. Keep touching yourself and see the growth that can occur! You are quite possibly quite right > Move you fat butts and your athritis will go away !!!! "Stuart" <member@smeigh.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message > You are quite possibly quite right I agree since exercise scares the hell out of me. >Move you fat butts and your athritis will go away !!!! And a very Merry Christmas to you too! --- Joan "Gerard Mindstep" <piano_nerds@yahoo.fr> wrote in message > Move you fat butts and your athritis will go away !!!! My butt is not fat, it's comfortably inflated sir. And I move my butt everytime I switch chairs. Nuff said! >Move you fat butts and your athritis will go away !!!! Read more, post less, dumeass. While your at it**Shut the F.uck Up** and go away. Now, get off your Mom's computer. Sorry, I don't have any butt (at least that's what my wife says). Also, I can't sit for too long without pain - or stand, or lie down ... Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Move you fat butts and your athritis will go away !!!! Thanks for telling me what caused Arthur to come live with me. Here I always thought it was the 40 hrs I put in as a book-keeper, vault teller, receiving & shipping and supervisor. Maybe it is the hours I put in each week training my Doberman and my Australian Shepherd. Or, could it be the Obedience classes I teach twice a week. I know.........it must be hanging out at my house every now and then, cleaning, cooking, laundry and all that boring stuff. You are such a bloody jerk! Lyn Yeah, Lyn, or in my case, maybe it was working as an executive secretary for 30 years, most of which was stress-filled; or perhaps it was raising 3 kids......hmmm...raises all kinds of speculation ;-) Nanny > Thanks for telling me what caused Arthur to come live with me. Here I > always thought it was the 40 hrs I put in as a book-keeper, vault teller, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Lyn Not very funny Bud, for the People that suffer with Arthritis... Blunder Head > Move you fat butts and your athritis will go away !!!! The sad thing about this thread is that people believe this and all of us have heard all this. I can't tell you how many people have told me that all I have to do is lose weight and all my pain will go away. Never mind that I have RA, was very fit before all this, the weight is from prednisone and very severe RA etc. Rose has lost 70 pounds (which is incredible ) is active and unfortunately her RA has not gone away yet. Don't we wish Rose - wouldn't that be a Merry Christmas??? Throw away that enbrel! Kelly Rose has lost 70 pounds (which is incredible ) is >active and unfortunately her RA has not gone away yet. Don't we wish Rose - >wouldn't that be a Merry Christmas??? Throw away that enbrel! > >Kelly I had RA even when I weighed 95 pounds, in fact it was worse then than when i was heavier. Mr docs used to tell me that it was a good sign when RA patients started to gain because it generally meant they were feeling better. Now that was in the"olden"days before the good meds and even when pred was used sparingly. The get off your a.s story wouldnt cut it with the juvies who get RA some of whom are even less than two years old. I have known a few juvies over the years, having been one myself. Some of the real juvies don't ever reach a typical height because their growth is diminished due to the RA. Tell a two year old to get off her fat a.s!!! And for that matter, what about the wear and tear aspect of OA? Some degenerative forms or arthur are caused from use when joints are misalligned or when joints are strained or unjured. Clearly the poster did not do his homework. Rose @}>->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB Please remove "Ima" to reply. > And for that matter, what about the wear and tear aspect of OA? Some > degenerative forms or arthur are caused from use when joints are > misalligned or when joints are strained or unjured. In this vein, I've read really scary stories about the extent of OA in professional athletes, notably hockey and football players. Players will be almost casual about saying that they'll retire when the pain gets too bad, or that they know they'll have to have multiple joint replacements once they're no longer playing. Of course, what they have that we don't have is access to better medical care and PT... SignatureAF "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team." --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball This is exactly why we need one another! The only ones who can comprehend and emphasize are those who also suffer from devastating illnesses and chronic pain! Nanny > The sad thing about this thread is that people believe this and all of us > have heard all this. I can't tell you how many people have told me that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Kelly Fat, thin, active, senditary (sp?), young, old.....Arthritis and Fibro doesn't differentiate! Perhaps the original poster has a chronic disease as well: narrow mind! SignatureNanny I am Woman; I am Invincible; I am tired! > The sad thing about this thread is that people believe this and all of us > have heard all this. I can't tell you how many people have told me that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Kelly >The sad thing about this thread is that people believe this and all of us >have heard all this. I can't tell you how many people have told me that all [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Kelly Even my wife, who should know better, tells me that if I lost weight I would take care of most of my aches and pains. I wasn't that fit before RA but even though I try very hard I can't lose weight with the prednisone and lack of exercise. I try to exercise but the pain and stiffness is hard to overcome. Lately my tail bone is very painful and stiff and walking has become more of a waddle. The treadmill is murder. Thumper I sympathize Thumper. That is what I meant by this thread. I too scoffed at the guy but unfortunately it shows the ignorance. Like Rose said kids get RA - babies and teenagers. Weight has nothing to do with it. neither does red meat, wine, **on, etc. I am not saying people don't have problems with nightshades, have problems with sulfites or that weight doesn't affect how we feel. Goodness knows if I could lose some more weight it would be easier on my joints. But it would not make my RA disappear or allow me to get off meds. I am in excellent physical shape for my disability - my pt is always telling me how impressed she is. I work hard at it doing all those lousy boring range of motion and strengthening exercises each morning for the last 10 years. Does it help - yes it does. The stiffness is a little less and the range of motion improvement does help my pain level. It doesn't take it away though. It just is one more tool. If I could wish for one useless wish for the new Year I would wish for education. I educate one person at a time but unfortunately it takes so much energy and I don't always get through to people - people who should know better. Someone like this guy doesn't make me mad anymore but sad. Unfortunately we seem to also have to fight the medical personell as well. The pt in the hospital told me I didn't have RA because I had no hand or foot damage - my regular pt said the damage is fairly obvious to someone intelligent to know what to look for. But also I wear splints regularly to counteract the damage and have taken dmards since day 1 even though they haven't always worked. I ice, exercise etc. He also said I shouldn't be on these dangerous meds especially the prednisone. Duh - and what should I do? He suggested a "doctor" friend who is an irodologist and accupuncturist etc. I happen to know the guy - he regularly fleeces the ms patients with his cures. My sister in law asked if cutting out wine with sulfites helps. Yes sulfites swell her wrists. I didn't even drink for 7 of the 10 years I had RA and my RA was at its worst during that time. She has a master's degree in nursing. Anyhow off my box - just venting. I will go back to educating one person at a time. I just wish it wasn't necessary. People like this guy give us more than our RA to battle and it is just so unfair. Kelly >>The sad thing about this thread is that people believe this and all of us >>have heard all this. I can't tell you how many people have told me that [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > murder. > Thumper Oh my!! Well, when I was first diagnosed with JRA at the age of 11 I weighed about 85 pounds. I am now overweight and need to lose some pounds, but I walk three miles (almost) every day. I am the supervisor of an after-school program with 90 kids from kindergarten to 5th grade, so I am VERY active. I was an avid golfer but had to give it up. My shoulders got so bad I just can't swing a club anymore but believe me, I keep trying. The original poster is just an idiot!! Kelly and Thumper and all: It is so sad when so-called medical professionals don't understand that RA is a systemic auto-immune disease and we are not doing anything to cause it. A couple years ago I went to an ear doctor because of tinnitus and hearing loss and he gave me a 30 minute lecture about lack of exercise was making me stiff and I only "thought" I had RA. Guess the three Rheumy's who have treated me for thirty years are wrong! I came out of there in tears when I really wanted to punch the little weasels lights out. Ann > Kelly and Thumper and all: It is so sad when so-called medical > professionals don't understand that RA is a systemic auto-immune disease [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Ann Hi Ann,,, It is normal for a person to feel that way when you think a person is going to understand and they do not and say things to hurt our feelings. Just make a promise to yourself to tell the person the mistake they are making even if it gets heated. You may help the next person that bumps into this person with the same problem you have. The only thing a person can do is forgive the persons ignorance if they can not be stood up to or we carry hard feelings for years and years. The statement in the subject line is a typical childish thing to say or is said by trolls to make people angry and they set back and laugh as the sparks fly. So it goes. Harv >> Kelly and Thumper and all: It is so sad when so-called medical >> professionals don't understand that RA is a systemic auto-immune disease [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >sparks fly. So it goes. >Harv My wife is 17 years younger than me, runs 5 miles every morning and hates medications as she is very susceptible to even Tylonal PM. She recently met a guy my age who has RA also and according to him he was feeling so bad with his first RD that he stopped taking Meds, went to another RD and started over. Apparently he is getting along very nicely on Methotrexate and Folic Acid so my wife keeps harping on me about taking too many meds. She thinks I should give the up. I try to tell her that I am glad for the fellow that he is feeling so well but I passed that stage of meds 8 years ago. She just doesn't understand how different we all are. I'm getting through to her though. Thumper > My wife is 17 years younger than me, runs 5 miles every morning and > hates medications as she is very susceptible to even Tylonal PM. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > though. > Thumper Very true and not only that,,,,, at different times in our life what it takes to control inflam.arth. changes. At one time I took 6 different medications trying to control my RA. In the trials and testing for Enbrel, thousands and thousands of people were kept tabs on to see what worked best. I have been taking Enbrel for over three years and its been started and stopped several times for different reasons. My point is that now,,,, a one shot a week prescription for Enbrel lasts me 3 weeks. Quite different than several years ago when it took six different prescriptions. To be honest about it all 6 of the prescriptions added together for cost would not be as much as Remicade or Enbrel cost and Enbrel costs about a third less than Remicade. All of the above information means that I have a good working relationship with my RD to find out what works best for me,,,, today. People that do not have inflam.arth. do not understand what our life is like ( wives included) can be in the same class as the person that thinks it is caused by LAziness. So it goes and will go in the future. Harv >> My wife is 17 years younger than me, runs 5 miles every morning and >> hates medications as she is very susceptible to even Tylonal PM. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >caused by LAziness. So it goes and will go in the future. >Harv Humira weekly doesn't seem to be doing the trick for me so we'll see what my RD says. RA is strange however. Just when you think you know how your body is handling a certain medication the disease stops attacking one part of your body and goes after another. Thumper > RA is strange however. Just when you think you know how your body is > handling a certain medication the disease stops attacking one part of > your body and goes after another. > Thumper I know that our disease attacks things we have a hard time keeping track off. I am talking about our veins and arteries. Anywhere in your body that there is cartilage can be attacked also. Eyes, ears, voice box, ribs,,,,, ect, ect.... It is all about getting control of what is taking place or nearly getting full control. I wish you a good new year where answers are found and maybe you can do a couple of those miles with the wife. None of this is her fault ya know. Happy New Year Harv IF! your theory was true, which its not, most of us in this group would be jumping for joy as you have found the cure. NOT!!!! But the sad news is you will always be a narrow minded jerk who has no idea! and lets hope that you never get any kind of arthritis, you know what they say "don't throw stones at glass house's you will get cut". Get arthritis and try it. DC The above is a response to the first posting ! |
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