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OTP: tummy troubles, cross your fingers!

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Nann Bell - 30 Nov 2005 16:27 GMT
(whine warning)

I've been dealing with a rebellious stomach for one day shy of 3 weeks now.  
Lots of gas and bloating, mostly stomach, but intestinal as well.  
Unfortunately, I stayed on my DMARDs for the first week because it kept
behaving as if it were improving.  I've learned not to trust that feeling, it
rarely lasts more than 3/4 of a day.

I've also been having fever spikes, though low enough to be in the virus
range.  The weird thing is, the fever will come down on its own, if I can
stand he aches for long enough, I'll feel better for much of the next day,
then the cycle starts up again.  Naturally, I have all the general feeling
lousy and hurting all over that goes with viruses, but my joints haven't
improved any - in fact ones that weren't hurting much have been screaming!  I
truly, truly am not having fun.

Called my doc Monday and of course they are really booked up this time of
year.  The nurse did manage to get me scheduled for Friday without having to
make me an emergency, which I really don't think I am right now.  Last night
my fever spiked up the highest yet - 100.6 - then came back down to normal  
on its own over the next 2 hours.  Feel better energy-wise this morning, but
stomach definitely still not happy.  I fear last night's spike was not the
end of this.

I'm not accustomed to being this clueless about what's going on and it
doesn't help any that the nurse was mystified when I told her how its all
been behaving.  I did start tracking my symptoms and temperature yesterday to
show the doctor on Friday in case it helps any.

I really need to get over this.  Mike's ordination, the final one to the
priesthood, is 2 weeks from Saturday.  I CANNOT be sick for that!  Mike goes
to the same PCP as I, so I plan to tell him that on Friday!  

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Joan Carter - 30 Nov 2005 19:15 GMT
>I really need to get over this.  Mike's ordination, the final one to the
>priesthood, is 2 weeks from Saturday.  I CANNOT be sick for that!  Mike goes
>to the same PCP as I, so I plan to tell him that on Friday!  

You do that, Nann. I can sympathize with you re the gut stuff, but can't imagine
what the fever is due to. Lots of good vibes coming your way.
---
Joan
Diane - 30 Nov 2005 20:21 GMT
ugh, nann. i wish you didn't have to wait until friday to see the doc.
it's so hard living with the unknown. you sound like me: "oh, it's
getting better. i'll just wait a little longer before i make an
appointment. . . "  i have no idea what your symptoms may mean, but i
hope the doc can get you fixed up good as new (well, as good as you can
get) by the ordination.

hugs,

diane
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 01 Dec 2005 01:04 GMT
{{{{{Nann}}}}}  Sounds like the IBS flare up I had, but I didn't get a
fever.

DeeTee

> (whine warning)
>
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> goes
> to the same PCP as I, so I plan to tell him that on Friday!
Nann Bell - 01 Dec 2005 14:56 GMT
> {{{{{Nann}}}}}  Sounds like the IBS flare up I had, but I didn't get a
> fever.

argh!  the first week, before the fevers started, I told my brother that if
this wasn't a virus, IBS seemed the most likely cause.  I also decided I
don't want anything more chronic unless it can be completely & easily
controlled!

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Adelle - 01 Dec 2005 18:30 GMT
Sorry you feel so lousy, Nann.

I was researching IBS the other day. Several sites said that fever is not
associated from IBS. And also, that the presence of a fever is one way to
differentiate IBS from Colitis. Not a happy thing to think about - sorry.

Hoping this is just viral and blows over soon.

Oh! have you had anything to eat/drink that may have included well water (or
been in a river or something) in the weeks before this started. Parasites
are so hard to find, even when you test for them. My friend's daughter had
similar symptoms for a long time. Finally, a ped. GI suggested they try a
course of antibiotics before they started invasive testing - and it went
away from the abx. They are assuming it was giardia (spelling?), even though
they had gone through stool testing (several times).

Adelle

> {{{{{Nann}}}}}  Sounds like the IBS flare up I had, but I didn't get a
> fever.
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>> goes
>> to the same PCP as I, so I plan to tell him that on Friday!
Nann Bell - 02 Dec 2005 05:28 GMT
> Sorry you feel so lousy, Nann.
>
> I was researching IBS the other day. Several sites said that fever is not
> associated from IBS. And also, that the presence of a fever is one way to
> differentiate IBS from Colitis. Not a happy thing to think about - sorry.

well, as luck would have it, I don't have the classic colitis symptoms.  
Aside from gas, the intestines are working most normally.  whew!

> Hoping this is just viral and blows over soon.

me too!

> Oh! have you had anything to eat/drink that may have included well water (or
> been in a river or something) in the weeks before this started.

argh, hard to tell around here.  The town's water supply gets minimal
treatment.  They must do something to it, but they certainly do not
chlorinate it and we still have to run it through a water softener to avoid
getting major crud in everything the water goes through.  Bummer when we also
have hot water baseboard heat!

Fortunately, we've been favorably impressed with our PCP here.  Man, I hope
he can help tomorrow.  This evening is the first time that my fever didn't
start going back down on its own after a couple of hours.  Hopefully that
means my immune system is kicking in more......

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Squirrely - 01 Dec 2005 03:17 GMT
Nann,

Sweetie, it sounds like you have that virus that has been going around. On
my one fms chat group all of us have  had it. It last for weeks and weeks. I
got rid of it for about two weeks just to get the respiratory part back and
also the tummy is kind of weird again.

I had it for 8 weeks. I think it is probably the same one Duckie had. I
thought I was never going to get rid of it.

I sure hope you start feeling better with it soon. My heart goes out to you.
I really do know how it is.

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> (whine warning)
>
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> goes
> to the same PCP as I, so I plan to tell him that on Friday!
Nann Bell - 01 Dec 2005 14:56 GMT
> Nann,
>
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> I sure hope you start feeling better with it soon. My heart goes out to you.
> I really do know how it is.

Oh, I don't like the sound of that, especially as I woke from my nap
yesterday with the right side of my throat feeling rather swollen.  It was
worse this morning, though the pseudoephedrine I took seems to be helping
some - swallowing doesn't hurt as much.  It doesn't seem to be going around
here though as my PCP's nurse hadn't heard of anything like it and they are
in a large, busy, popular practice.  Well, if it is the virus, maybe he can
help me feel better while it plays out.

At least the fever spikes have been a bit less traumatic this week, though
they've become daily or twice-daily events.  Mike now knows what my fever is
doing by how I'm dressed (as in t-shirt, barefoot and hair up in a 69 degree
house!).   My body doesn't seem to be fighting this hard enough though with
fevers only periodically.

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Squirrely - 06 Dec 2005 23:24 GMT
I hope you are doing better by now. I hope it has let up with you and gone
away. I feel for you.
I hear that about being dressed like that. I still have the hot feeling even
though I got over that one and started it all over again.

You take care. Thinking of you.

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Squirrely Jo

> Oh, I don't like the sound of that, especially as I woke from my nap
> yesterday with the right side of my throat feeling rather swollen.  It was
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> with
> fevers only periodically.
Cindy - 01 Dec 2005 16:49 GMT
Nann, I hope you find out what is going on with you....Praying that it is
not much and easily healed...
Hugs Cindy
> (whine warning)
>
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> goes
> to the same PCP as I, so I plan to tell him that on Friday!
Charrlygrl1 - 01 Dec 2005 20:36 GMT
I don't have any advice for you, only hopes and a prayer that you will
feel better soon,
Charlene
Diane - 02 Dec 2005 14:43 GMT
good luck with your doc appt today, nann. i hope he/she has some
answers. you must be very frustrated.

diane
Nann Bell - 03 Dec 2005 00:05 GMT
> good luck with your doc appt today, nann. i hope he/she has some
> answers. you must be very frustrated.
>
> diane

thanks for the wishes!  He didn't help as much as I would have liked, but I'm
glad I went.  He's leaning towards a virus that my immune system isn't
jumping on as fast as it should for all the reasons we're all too accustomed
to here.  For now I'm to stay off Enbrel and mtx and avoid Tylenol in my pain
cocktail as much as humanly possible so my immune system is free to cook the
bug with fever.  He did ask lots of questions and I think appropriately ruled
out a lot of possibilities.  And he said they've been seeing lots of
different viruses lately - just one or a few cases of each, but quite an
assortment.

Also drew some blood to double-check other things, inc. my albumin which was
low 2 weeks ago when I had my routine mtx labs done.  He suggested hitting
the yogurt to help out my gut and switched that to probiotic pills from GNC
after I explained about my milk allergy.  I stopped and bought (and
started!!) some on the way home.  I like the fact that he recommended
something that some docs consider "alternative".

Poor doc.  He's commented before on how I relate and understand things
differently than most of his patients.  A couple of times I wanted to tell
him I knew why he was telling me something, but was afraid I'd upend his
usual flow and throw him off!  LOL  (I heard part of his conversation with
the previous patient (older & hard-of-hearing) through the wall.  Fellow was
vague about why he takes Zocor!)

Mike's mentor is staying with us for the weekend because they are doing a
wedding tomorrow as well as the Sunday service.  I bought food at the deli
for them to eat, they'll get their own breakfasts.  I'm resting all day
tomorrow!

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Diane - 03 Dec 2005 00:41 GMT
sorry you didn't get any specific answers, but it sounds like he does
listen and at least he had some suggestions. i like your plan to rest
all day tomorrow. (what is albumin anyway??)
hope the probiotic pills help and the nasty bug goes away soon.

diane
Nann Bell - 04 Dec 2005 01:14 GMT
> sorry you didn't get any specific answers, but it sounds like he does
> listen and at least he had some suggestions. i like your plan to rest
> all day tomorrow. (what is albumin anyway??)

albumin is one of those tests that can reflect liver problems which is why
it's in the mtx tests.  I believe it's a protein in the body, but don't quote
me on that!
>  hope the probiotic pills help and the nasty bug goes away soon.

they do help, I am very happy to say.  I'm taking much less simethicone.  
Fever in the evening is still hitting 100F+.  At least I feel a bit more
human and functional with the probiotics helping witht he gas and bloating.  
I'm heard so much talk here about them normalizing your gut when you're on
antibiotics, but I didn't think of them at all for something like this.  I
may stay on them considering all the meds I subject my gut to.  Wish I could
eat yogurt - if only my milk allergy had been given to somone who doesn't
like it to begin with!  ;)

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Gwen Love - 03 Dec 2005 01:12 GMT
Nann, praying for good weather and a wonderful weekend for both of you.
Gwen

>> good luck with your doc appt today, nann. i hope he/she has some
>> answers. you must be very frustrated.
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> for them to eat, they'll get their own breakfasts.  I'm resting all day
> tomorrow!
Squirrely - 07 Dec 2005 00:23 GMT
I am glad he is helping with some of it Nann, it is hard to go without help
to get over it.

I am glad the probiotic pills are helping your tummy and such out.

Hope the weekend went well.

Firechief was asking about Mike the other night he called me.

You take care and know I do feel for you. Hope you are doing much better if
not great today.

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> thanks for the wishes!  He didn't help as much as I would have liked, but
> I'm
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> for them to eat, they'll get their own breakfasts.  I'm resting all day
> tomorrow!
 
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