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Kelly - 29 Nov 2005 04:10 GMT
Well it is another pity party from Kelly so feel free to delete.  If someone
ever figures out what has happened or wants to solve this one I would be
grateful.

Thursday I went to my gp for a flu shot instead to find out he had heard
from the rd and I was to try to get in for a solu medrol 3 day 1 gram a day
drip into the hospital.  It was ideally suppose to be inpatient but we made
a deal and got outpatient so they would even do it.Sunday I had to wait 5
hours in emergency until a bed came up but I didn't care.  The drips have
helped a bit I guess (don't know what I should have expected.)  A bit less
pain, my toes will go flat when I want them.  The bladder is now overactive
and I have to run when I know I have to go.  The bowel is starting to work
better too.  So all that is good.  The foot is still wild but guess that
could still work itself out. The leg is still shaky. The worst is the side
effects.

I noticed today that my eyesight is not very clear so will have to bring
that up tomorrow when I go see my gp.  I am also quite shaky and feeling
really rough but expected that after the shock of the medrol drip.  My blood
pressure was fine the whole time but I am now wondering if my blood sugar
isn't a bit off.  Will get them to check that tomorrow.  I don't have an
actual appointment but my husband does so will go in with him.  I hate not
being free to drive.  That is the worst sometimes I think.  Well not
really - the unknown is the worst.  I don't know where I stand with this.
It is not RA and not MS and no one seems to know what to expect.  I suspect
again I am talking months.  It is almost 7 weeks now and really I am still
sick.  I can't hide that truth.  It is also 7 weeks with no arthritis med
except the 10 mg of prednisone (although the 1 g a day of solu medrol was
sure nice to the joints - what joints????)

Anyhow that is my whine.  I am not looking forward to Christmas especially
since it is almost impossible to get out alone to do shopping etc.  Think I
will get some of it done on the net and get Pat to shop for some more of it.
The wrapping etc - well might not even do it.  That might be a solution.
The house is filthy and the dog keeps tracking stuff in and out and we had
started doing some painting and renovating and packing boxes and well that
is still everywhere.  It is Pat's fairly busy time right now so he is doing
all he can driving me to appointments, looking after things his parents need
(elderly, no car, living in a house, need help with finances etc.) Just feel
I shouldn't put anything more on top of him.  Of course it is cold today too
and going to snow tomorrow so that will be another challenge to start the
day off with.  Glad my appointments aren't until noon (Victoria BC is not
used to snow - this sets the drivers wild).

Anyhow no more bitching.  It is 8 o'clock and I can probably go have a bath
and crawl back into bed.  Spent most of yesterday and today there and the
way I feel I probably should do everyone a favour and spend the next month
there too.

By the way Rose - the book was great.  I do like her writing.  I have order
Jenifer Chiaverini's new book from Barnes and Noble online today so look
forward to that too.  It is a series I reread over and over.  They are quilt
related but well written.  I reread the Courage Tree yesterday - was a nice
break.  I concentrate better on light reading right now - I have Anna Karina
but know that is not in the picture right now.  My mother in law lent me War
and Peace (her favorite book) but can't keep my concentration on that.

Off to bed.  Thanks for listening.  Just a bunch of whines but damn I am
still scared and in the dark on this.  I think I need to be concentrating on
looking at MS symptoms and treatments but just don't know .  This is just
not a common thing to happen and no one but me is in charge right now it
feels like.

Kelly
Diane - 29 Nov 2005 04:22 GMT
kelly, you're entitled to several long whines every day if you like. i
think of you every day and wonder how you're doing. 7 weeks. unreal.

it's so hard when you don't want to be a burden on anyone else. do you
have friends or a church community that could organize to help you out?

do you feel like your docs are giving you the best treatment? i keep
wondering if you should be at mayo or someplace like that. i can only
imagine how scary this must be.

have you read my latest book (the bay at midnight)? if not, send me
your address separately and i'll mail it to you.

hugs,

diane
Kelly - 29 Nov 2005 05:26 GMT
It really is hard Diane and I am not normally a whiner.  I am pretty
independent in my own way.  I have lots of friends and they are doing lots
for me thank goodness.  The hardest thing is that really there isn't much to
ask them for. I have a couple of functional hours of the day and don't
always know when that is.  Luckily my husband has been great through all
this and my family as well.  The friends come to quilt every week although I
have to quit that for a bit so I don't catch anything from them (lack of flu
shot, and the medrol leaving me with a suspect immune system).

I think the doctor's are doing the best they can.  I am in Canada so no
medical would cover me in the states believe me.  I should know more of what
my rd says on Wednesday.  The neurologist just seemed to think it would
eventually go away as far as I can tell but then he also knew nothing about
enbrel.  I have a great relationship with my rd and he just bugged everyone
at the conference so hopefully he has some answers.

I haven't read your latest book (it is on my Christmas list for my kids to
give to me).  I will not spoil it though since I asked them for it.  I have
read all the rest Diane and they  are excellent reads.

The online support helps so much - sometimes this feels so alone but I know
that all of you will understand.  The hardest sometimes is to tell people
that I still would have taken enbrel for the last 3 years.  What were the
chances of this - I figure less than 2 %.  Bigger chance of getting hit by a
car and it gave me a degree of comfort.  I suspect though that my rd will
want this to be gone before he starts me on something else (guessing kineret
although we will have to find special funding as the provincial powers that
be have not approved this for payment - only humira, remicade and enbrel -
all tnf receptors.)

Thanks Diane,  Just the understanding helps.  I am scared but also mainly
whiny tonight.

Kelly

> kelly, you're entitled to several long whines every day if you like. i
> think of you every day and wonder how you're doing. 7 weeks. unreal.
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> diane
Kelly Cobb - 29 Nov 2005 05:08 GMT
((((Kelly))))

You are easily the quietest whiner I have every heard (read). I would be
driving everybody nuts with the complaining and wanting to get better NOW!

I think of you daily and check in to see your updates, all the while hoping
and praying for you to wake up one day soon, with all this crap behind you.

Please be patient with yourself and the progress you are making. 7 weeks
seems like a long time, but your body is worth the wait.

Hugs,
Kelly C.

> Well it is another pity party from Kelly so feel free to delete.  If someone
> ever figures out what has happened or wants to solve this one I would be
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> Kelly
Kelly - 29 Nov 2005 05:29 GMT
Thanks kelly,
coming from you and Rachel that means a lot.  I have followed your trials
with the meds and know how hard it has been.

I think I just hoped the solu medrol would be a permanent solution and I
would wake up and be better.  What a dreamer - didn't even give a thought to
the drop I knew would happen with that amount of medrol.  But you know if we
didn't dream none of us would survive this disease would we?

I am off to bed - had my bath and sat through "Scrooge" and the commercials.
Almost enough to put me to sleep (although think a demerol might help as
well tonight.)

Thanks Kelly.  It is always nice to know I have such friends as all of you
behind me.

Kelly
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 29 Nov 2005 14:00 GMT
> Well it is another pity party from Kelly so feel free to delete.  If someone
> ever figures out what has happened or wants to solve this one I would be
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> Kelly

Kelly,

You are more than entitled to whine whenever the "need" the strikes
(and I'm hoping the strike is very, very soft).  I whine here, what
seems like, all the time.  In fact, I wonder sometimes if I *ever*
write when it isn't a whine (if that's the case, sorry everybody).

Sending softest "e"-hugs to you, and hoping that everything works out
for the best.  Prayers and offerings you and your family.

Smokie Darling (Annie)
RoseB - 29 Nov 2005 14:21 GMT
I am so sorry to hear that things have not improved that much (yet). I
am hopeful that each day will bring you closer to a full recovery, and
htat the time needed will not be too long.

I do check in also to see if you have posted an update. Never feel
that you are whining. I think that others on the group feel as I di,
we want to hear about how you are doing adn what progress has been
made.

I am glad that you liked hte book. If there is ever anything I can do,
please holler, and I am sure that I can do it.

Have you considered the S*ars catalogue for your Christmas shopping?
It is a benefit for those of us who can not get out and do all the
store shopping that we would like. Also London drugs has a website and
you may be able to do some on-line shopping that way.

I hope that the snowfall you get will be light. Snow is great for
kids, but for those of us with mobility issues, it can be a real
hassle.

Take care.
Rose
    Rose   @}>->--
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Gwen Love - 30 Nov 2005 00:19 GMT
Rose, S*ars doesn't put out a catalog any more, do they?
Gwen

>I am so sorry to hear that things have not improved that much (yet). I
> am hopeful that each day will bring you closer to a full recovery, and
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RoseB - 30 Nov 2005 01:24 GMT
>Rose, S*ars doesn't put out a catalog any more, do they?
>Gwen

In Canada they do. She can also access it online at www.sears.ca

    Rose   @}>->--
    Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB

    Please remove "Ima" to reply.
Cindy - 29 Nov 2005 14:31 GMT
Kelly, Hugs and prayers...Also My counselor said that if you spend 5 minutes
or less telling us how bad you feel today...That is not whining....So See
you are still not whining, just letting us know how you feel....
Lots of hugs
Cindy
> Well it is another pity party from Kelly so feel free to delete.  If
> someone ever figures out what has happened or wants to solve this one I
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> Kelly
Alix M. Hall - 29 Nov 2005 15:02 GMT
whine away--or think of it as therapy to a bunch of people who care about
you--{{{{{{{Kelly}}}}}

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Alix

"We are all pencils in the hand of God."  ~Mother Teresa

Charrlygrl1 - 29 Nov 2005 16:48 GMT
Kelly,
I haven't been here as long as most of the others, so I don't know you
that well.
But I have been reading and keeping up since this MS thing (whatever it
is) hit.
I don't think you have been whining at all.
In fact, If I were you, I would probably be a gibbering, drooling idiot
in the psycho ward by now.
I think you are one strong lady.
Hang in there,
Char
Pope Pie (Sy Lehrman) - 29 Nov 2005 21:35 GMT
> Kelly,
> I haven't been here as long as most of the others, so I don't know you
> that well.
> But I have been reading and keeping up since this MS thing (whatever it
> is) hit.
> I don't think you have been whining at all.

A little whining now and then is fine.  This is a nice positive group that  
will make reasonable responses and give you a good word  and the  
complaints are reasonable.  I used to read a migraine news group before  
the headaches cleared up and in that group people actually post suicide  
notes.  This is a much better group to deal with.  Anyway, I may want to  
complain from time to time.  I may even have this stuff clear up too.  
Well, it could happen.

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Harvey R. Stone - 30 Nov 2005 19:11 GMT
This is a much better group to deal with.  Anyway, I may want to
> complain from time to time.  I may even have this stuff clear up too.
> Well, it could happen.

We want to hear about that too.  It gives other people hope  and it    Can
happen and does.
Harv
Skip - 30 Nov 2005 04:10 GMT
Kelly, you are doing great!  I wish I could whine as coherently!

skip

> Well it is another pity party from Kelly so feel free to delete.  If
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> Kelly
Kelly - 30 Nov 2005 05:16 GMT
Thanks everyone.  I accomplished a few things today.  I have hired a
friend's university daughter for 2 hours a week to do whatever I don't want
to ask anyone else to do.  That could be anything from picking something up
off the floor (and believe me sometimes that is an issue), to walking my 1
1/2 year old dog who needs more attention that I am getting him, to washing
my floor.  you idea of the church friends did that Diane.  Then I went to
the doctor after researching again.  He says the eyesight, shakiness, etc
should pass and gave me a new prescriptions.  Since I had come off the med
that was suppose to ease the spasticity it occured to me we should have
replaced that.  Did some research this morning and he agreed it would be
worth while (As you can tell I am leading this one.  When I get my medical
degree I will let you know.)  We agreed to try baclofen hoping it will not
leave me stoned and in tears like the clonazepam ( it was a tranquilizer and
on me more like a tranquilizer for horses - knocked me flat on my rear in
tears constantly at the lowest dose)  Hopefully I will get more information
tomorrow from my rd.  I also finally got a flu shot which was concerning me
as there are reports of flu.

I am still weepy today - I think it is the clonazepam as I tried again to
take it because I was in pain.  I am not doing that again - it is in my pile
to go to the pharmacist for disposal.

Anyhow I am a bit better today - even managed to get my hair washed properly
and kept a shoe on my foot for 1/2 hour which is a miracle in itself.  My
foot really protests at any sensation like that but since it snowed last
night a bit and I had to go to the doctor - well socks and sandles didn't
seem the thing.

Oh and my husband took me to lunch and the drug store - the highlight of my
day.  Boy life is boring when the drugstore is exciting (bought some
chocolate and depends - life is sweet.

Thanks everyone,
Kelly
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vickie b. - 30 Nov 2005 13:22 GMT
Dear Kelly,

Well I don't know about the drugstore but the chocolate makes it a red
letter day!

Three years ago now right after Christmas, I gave my three kids and
husband a card.  I requested that each write the top three things that
they like to do at Christmas.  (There are no sacred cows)  I was
surprised at the things that they picked.  I've used that as a guide to
remove a lot of fluff from Christmas.  The parties that they didn't
enjoy well we don't do those.  Christmas tree became  a nuts and bolts
affair only-you know tree and lights, no ornaments!  I do just the most
important and I have found it to be liberating!  (But this is my first
year to have a child come in from college! and I excited!)

Take care,

(((((Kelly)))))  (((((Pat)))))  spouses are wonderful!

Vickie B.
Diane - 30 Nov 2005 20:26 GMT
kelly, i hope the baclofen helps, and i doubt it will make you stoned.
my sister and i both take it, she for MS spasms and me for esophageal
spasms. it doesn't make either of us tired, although i know that's a
potential side effect. glad you hired someone to help! very smart move.

diane
Gwen Love - 30 Nov 2005 22:00 GMT
So glad for your progress, and that is progress.  Will continue to pray it
continues -- fast!
Gwen

> Thanks everyone.  I accomplished a few things today.  I have hired a
> friend's university daughter for 2 hours a week to do whatever I don't
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Nann Bell - 30 Nov 2005 16:27 GMT
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((Kelly))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

prayers continue.

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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 01 Dec 2005 01:01 GMT
{{{{{{Kelly}}}}}}

DeeTee

> Well it is another pity party from Kelly so feel free to delete.  If
> someone ever figures out what has happened or wants to solve this one I
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Squirrely - 01 Dec 2005 01:24 GMT
Kelly,

You have every right to whine sweetie. Thank you for the update on what is
happening with you. I like that because then I know better how to pray for
you.

Sweetie, I wish I were there to give you hugs in person and be able to help
you out. But I am not so these cyber hugs will have to do. Love you. You
take care. I sure hope you get better quickly.

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> Well it is another pity party from Kelly so feel free to delete.  If
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> Kelly
 
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