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123matt - 23 Nov 2005 05:36 GMT
Hi all,
My girlfriend is 26 and has pain in her joints, mostly in the evening, if
she remains lying on the couch for any length of time. She says some tests
she had in Russia indicated she had rheumatism but I wonder. I'm hoping
some of you can let me know:
1. what causes rheumatism?
2. what relieves the joint pain? (again, she only gets the pain when
motionless after a long day)also: she doesn't have insurance so no way to
get expensive drugs.
3. is there a connection to heart disease?
Thanks so much for your help!
Matt
Mary Z - 23 Nov 2005 06:05 GMT
>1. what causes rheumatism?
>2. what relieves the joint pain? (again, she only gets the pain when
>motionless after a long day)also: she doesn't have insurance so no way to
>get expensive drugs.
>3. is there a connection to heart disease?
>Thanks so much for your help!

Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is caused by the immune system.  The  immune
system begins to attack the joints and other areas in the body.
Drugs that modify the immune system are used to treat the disease
(disease modifying Anti Rheumatic drugs or DMARDS).  Some of the drugs
we use are not very  inexpensive she should see a Dr, prefereably a
Rheumatologist.   It is much better if she catches it early the longer
it goes the more expensive the treatment and the joint damage that
will occur, the disease often becomes more difficult to treat in the
later stages. RA can affect the heart it is a serious disease.
This is an excellent website:
http://www.arthritis.co.za/

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Nicole H - 23 Nov 2005 21:25 GMT
rheumatism is not the same as RA

The term "rheumatism" is still used in colloquial speech and historical
contexts, but is no longer frequently used in medical or technical
literature; it would be fair to say that there is no longer any recognized
disorder called, simply, "rheumatism". The traditional term covers such a
range of different problems that to ascribe symptoms to "rheumatism" is not
to say very much: arthritis and rheumatism between them cover at least 200
different conditions.

A vast number of traditional herbal remedies were recommended for
"rheumatism". Modern medicine, both conventional and complementary,
recognises that the different rheumatic disorders have different causes (and
several of them have multiple causes) and require different kinds of
treatment. Most sources dealing with rheumatism tend to focus on arthritis.
However "non-articular rheumatism", also known as "regional pain syndrome"
or "soft tissue rheumatism" can cause just as much discomfort and
difficulty.

The major rheumatic disorders currently recognised include:

 a.. Osteoarthritis
 b.. Rheumatoid arthritis
 c.. Rheumatic heart disease (Rheumatic fever)
 d.. Shoulder pain
 e.. Neck pain
 f.. Back pain
 g.. Fibromyalgia
 h.. Ankylosing spondylitis
 i.. Psoriatic arthritis
 j.. Systemic lupus erythematosus
 k.. Polymyalgia rheumatica
 l.. Tenosynovitis
 m.. Capsulitis
 n.. Bursitis
 o.. Rheumatic fever.
Although these disorders probably have little in common in terms of their
epidemiology, they do share two characteristics: they cause chronic (though
often intermittent) pain, and they are difficult to treat. They are also,
collectively, very common. The very long list of supposed herbal remedies
for rheumatism no doubt reflects the intractable nature of the problems it
involves, and so, perhaps, does the fact that are no fewer than six patron
saints for sufferers from rheumatism: Saint Alphonsus Maria de Liguori,
Saint Colman, Saint James the Greater, Saint Killian, Saint Servatus, and
Saint Totnan.

Initial therapy of the major rheumatological diseases is with paracetamol
and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), members of which are
ibuprofen and diclofenac. Often, stronger analgesics are required.

>>1. what causes rheumatism?
>>2. what relieves the joint pain? (again, she only gets the pain when
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Mary Z - 23 Nov 2005 23:54 GMT
>Initial therapy of the major rheumatological diseases is with paracetamol
>and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), members of which are
>ibuprofen and diclofenac. Often, stronger analgesics are required.

Hopefully this  not treatment of forms caused by the immune system.
Sounds like the Wiki definition.  -- MZ

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Mary Z - 24 Nov 2005 03:11 GMT
>Hopefully this  not treatment of forms caused by the immune system.
>Sounds like the Wiki definition.  -- MZ

Dang!  I am sending these reponses off too fast!   translation: I hope
this is not the treatment of choice for arthritic diseases caused by
the immune system. Hopefully a patient would receive a DMARD and not
just  tylenol or an anti-inflammatory.
 
This definition sounds like the one in Wikipedia. -- MZ

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123matt - 24 Nov 2005 21:40 GMT
Thanks so much Mary, for the info and the website. I'll take a look. Not
sure why the pain only comes as she is laying in bed at night, just before
going to sleep. Nothing during the day, even if she's sitting for long
periods of time. What do you think? Thanks again, for you information and
help.
Matt
Mary Z - 25 Nov 2005 03:36 GMT
>What do you think? Thanks again, for you information and
>help.

Morning stiffness over 1 hour  is one of the classification criteria
for RA, now she might not have it but it is certainly worth checking
out. There are ther diseases such as Fibromyalgia.
You might check out this site for the diagnosis criteria:
http://www.hopkins-arthritis.som.jhmi.edu/edu/acr/guidelines.html

Her next step should be to see a Dr., preferably a Rheumatologist.
-- MZ

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123matt - 26 Nov 2005 17:11 GMT
thanks, Mary. Off to the hospital it is for her.
 
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