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"Cure" of the Day

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Walt Hanks - 22 Nov 2005 01:19 GMT
In honor of Annie's trials today, I think it's time to revive an old
tradition here - the "Cure of the Day" vent.  This is where we get to vent
about what some well-meaning idiot told us, or what some supplement pusher
tried to con us into buying.  We all laugh, realize we aren't the only ones
with family members/friends who are dumb as a post, and move on.

I'll start with a classic.  The WD40 cure.

Yes folks, a man walked up to me in the grocery store about 14 years ago and
mentioned that he had seen me using a cane and wondered if he could help.
His suggestion, which he guaranteed to work, was to buy a big bucket of
WD-40, soak my joints real good every night, then wrap them in Saran Wrap.

With that, he walked away.  Didn't even wait for my witty reply (which could
have been a long wait - I was dumbfounded).

So, what was your favorite "cure of the day?"

Walt
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 22 Nov 2005 01:39 GMT
> In honor of Annie's trials today, I think it's time to revive an old
> tradition here - the "Cure of the Day" vent.  This is where we get to vent
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>
> Walt

Pray, and if you are found worthy you will be healed, and if you aren't
healed you aren't worthy or you aren't praying hard enough, or you
aren't good enough, or you are the wrong religion, etc. (this is
actually kind of scary).  I hear that one often enough, but it is still
a surprise when someone (I've never considered particularly "religious"
since that's a subject worthy of avoidance at all costs) says it.

Had never heard the WD40 cure, heard about drinking apple cider vinegar
(with honey of course), or taking Coral Calcium (apparently other
calciums are not good enough), or going vegetarian, or going "no" carbs
(meat and dairy products primarily), or  hee-hee, haven't thought about
some of these in an age...

Thanks it makes me laugh, and I really needed it.  You are so sweet
(oops, supposed to be avoiding sweets -heeheeheeheehee)!

Smokie Darling (Annie)
Ann - 22 Nov 2005 02:04 GMT
It's not a cure suggestion, but it's funny.  A relative of mine told me
my feet and ankles would not be so swollen if I didn't drink so much
water.  
Guess she thinks all liquids go right to your feet.  I wonder where
where it goes from there?

Ann
Jo Firey - 22 Nov 2005 02:16 GMT
"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1993@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> Pray, and if you are found worthy you will be healed, and if you aren't
> healed you aren't worthy or you aren't praying hard enough, or you
> aren't good enough, or you are the wrong religion, etc. (this is
> actually kind of scary).

The real problem for those who think this way, no matter what they do they
are likely to get sick themselves.  And have to deal with guilt along with
illness or disability.  It can be a stuborn one to fight.  If you are
brought up thinking this way it is very hard to get to a point where you
find yourself worthy of anything good.

Its close and evil cousin is the notion that women in particular are
supposed to endure pain, that they deserve it because of Eve and the apple.

> or going vegetarian, or going "no" carbs
> (meat and dairy products primarily), or  hee-hee, haven't thought about
> some of these in an age...

The no carbs one worked for me.  Kind of in reverse.  About a year and a
half ago I was on a low carb diet.  It was great for taking off weight but
my arthritis acted up enough for one of my doctors to diagnose the gout
component of my problem.  I'm doing a whole lot better with an anti-gout
medicine added into the bunch.

Jo
janersagain - 22 Nov 2005 15:07 GMT
Ah, MIL always told me to sip a shot, or at least a tablespoon of apple
cider vinegar. Helps with getting rid of arthritis pain.

Plus I did find out it doesnt clean a coffee pot as well as white vinegar
does :)

janers
Kelly Cobb - 22 Nov 2005 15:13 GMT
> Ah, MIL always told me to sip a shot, or at least a tablespoon of apple
> cider vinegar. Helps with getting rid of arthritis pain.
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>
> janers

Wouldn't it be nicer to sip a shot of hard apple cider? Maybe it would work
just as well, if not better, at making you forget you have arthritis.

Kelly C.
Jo Firey - 22 Nov 2005 16:56 GMT
>> Ah, MIL always told me to sip a shot, or at least a tablespoon of apple
>> cider vinegar. Helps with getting rid of arthritis pain.
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> work
> just as well, if not better, at making you forget you have arthritis.

Or a mother in law

Jo
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 22 Nov 2005 18:09 GMT
> "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1993@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> Jo

Actually, I have found that if I just cut out the "bad" carbs (white
flour, sugar, things like that) then my inflammation did improve (for a
while).  Seems actually to still work, but when I'm stressing I want
candy (though I've noticed that dark chocolate doesn't affect me the
same way joint wise as milk chocolate).

It all started after reading a report (that I can't find now) from a
study done in NY (I think) where the doctor found that RA creates a
carbohydrate in the joint which "helps" the inflammation to get going
good.
Jo Firey - 22 Nov 2005 22:26 GMT
>> "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1993@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
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> carbohydrate in the joint which "helps" the inflammation to get going
> good.

I try to do that still.  Stay away from white bread and such.  Trouble was I
LIKE beef.  So I was eating far too much on the diet.  I do try to stick to
better carbs and lower purine protein sources.   A nice steak doesn't look
quite as tempting anymore since I know I'll have a quick and painful
reaction.

I cracked a bone in my hand in August and it only hurts now if I'm not
careful what I eat or if I miss a pill.  It's my own personal pain
barometer.

Jo
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 22 Nov 2005 23:25 GMT
> >> "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1993@yahoo.com> wrote in message

<<snipped>>

> > Actually, I have found that if I just cut out the "bad" carbs (white
> > flour, sugar, things like that) then my inflammation did improve (for a
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>
> Jo

I'm like that with dark beer (okay, black beer, I adore Guinness but
can't walk after having one).  Sorry about the break.  I've got a
broken upper arm, but that's a whole *other* story of horrors.  I'm
thinking I don't like November much (hee).

SD (Annie)
Lyn@up.late - 22 Nov 2005 06:30 GMT
>I'll start with a classic.  The WD40 cure.
>
>Yes folks, a man walked up to me in the grocery store about 14 years ago and
>mentioned that he had seen me using a cane and wondered if he could help.
>His suggestion, which he guaranteed to work, was to buy a big bucket of
>WD-40, soak my joints real good every night, then wrap them in Saran Wrap.

Believe it or not...I tried it on my hands a few years ago....didn't
help.  On the other hand it works great for neutralizing skunk spray
on leather boots. :o)

-- Lyn   (filethirteen@shaw.ca)  
     
        remember..."ASA" in subject line    

http://members.shaw.ca/Lynuplate/
Sunny52 - 22 Nov 2005 13:19 GMT
Can't say I've heard of the WD 40 cure.

A well meaning friend told me to buy some good quality vodka and a box
of white raisins.  My instructions were to empty the vodka into a large
container and add the raisins.  After a few days of soaking in the
vodka, I was to "eat a handful of raisins every day' and soon my
rheumatism would disappear.

After she left I had a good laugh!

Bonnie
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 22 Nov 2005 18:14 GMT
> Can't say I've heard of the WD 40 cure.
>
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> vodka, I was to "eat a handful of raisins every day' and soon my
> rheumatism would disappear.

Well, your rheumatism would still be around, but I bet you wouldn't
care so much (LOL)!

> After she left I had a good laugh!
>
> Bonnie
Navy1 - 22 Nov 2005 21:16 GMT
The punch line I've heard to that is "It may not make the arthritis go
away, but you won't care!"  LOL
Loujean

>Can't say I've heard of the WD 40 cure.
>
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>
>Bonnie
Mary Z - 22 Nov 2005 20:40 GMT
>So, what was your favorite "cure of the day?"

My favorite cure dujour is the idiot who claims blood letting will
cure arthritis.  His facts are always a bit rusty, it matches his
brains. -- MZ

Visit my website:
http://www.mzuschlag.com
Alix M. Hall - 23 Nov 2005 01:14 GMT
Lets see--copper~~magnets~~apple cider vinegar mixed with alfalfa~~olive oil
(guess it does the same thing on the inside that the WD40 does on the
outside)~~and the ever popular right bed~~and of course the magic healing
oil blessed by (enter name of prominent TV preacher of the moment)~~oh--and
the good ol' thinking positive thoughts.....

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Alix

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Aina Nilsen - 25 Nov 2005 17:36 GMT
> Lets see--copper~~magnets~~apple cider vinegar mixed with alfalfa~~olive oil
> (guess it does the same thing on the inside that the WD40 does on the
> outside)~~and the ever popular right bed~~and of course the magic healing
> oil blessed by (enter name of prominent TV preacher of the moment)~~oh--and
> the good ol' thinking positive thoughts.....

Here in Norway they promote greep lip mussels, ginger and lately, Noni
juice....

Aina
the lurker in Norway
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 23 Nov 2005 03:54 GMT
If I exercised every day, I would no longer have an immune disease or any
other of the diseases that are "all in my head."  Since I don't have RA, I
clearly don't really have arthritis and should not tell people that I do.
Sheesh!

DeeTee

> In honor of Annie's trials today, I think it's time to revive an old
> tradition here - the "Cure of the Day" vent.  This is where we get to vent
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>
> Walt
Nann Bell - 23 Nov 2005 05:20 GMT
My favorite still has to be the health food nut (and this one was a nut!  Did
you know that Tahitian coconut milk is superior to that of other countries?)
who was a Shiatsu massage student who tried to get me to attend a seminar at
her school led by a fella who had supposedly cured many illnesses by doing
acupuncture.............. on DOLLS!!!!!  

Now I believe acupuncture can have beneficial effects that Western medicine
simply cannot understand, but I truly believe you must do the acupuncture ON
THE PERSON!  I really don't think the doll act would do it.  The most
annoying part was that I had a fair amount of respect for her partner that
began to waver when I realized what a nut she was committing to.  And at the
time, I really needed a good laugh, but I had to choke that one back until
later when I could recount it for MIke.

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