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Janet N - 14 Nov 2005 01:46 GMT
I'm curious... do many of you develop strange allergies as you age?  It
seems I am becoming allergic to nearly everything, and some of them are very
strange.  The latest is... believe it or not... hospital bracelets.  The
last reaction was bad enough they had to pin the bracelet on my gown.  Not
sure what part of them, but I think it has to be paper, plastic or ink.

Is it just me, or do we all start to become more sensitive to everyday items
as we get older?   My list is getting longer every day.

Just being curious...

Janet N.
Norman - 14 Nov 2005 02:47 GMT
It's common (according to some of my doctors) for people's allergies to
change as they age. You lose some, you gain some, and some just keep in
there beating the crap out of you.

I've known people who never had any problems suddenly becoming allergic
in their 30's and 40's.

Many people are allergic to different types of plastic. I know people
who can only wear natural fibers; they get rashes from synthetics.

Latex is another source of problems for many people. This can cause
problems during surgery.

The only thing you can do is talk to your PCP (and possibly a
specialist) about treatment and avoidance.

> I'm curious... do many of you develop strange allergies as you age?  It
> seems I am becoming allergic to nearly everything, and some of them are very
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> Janet N.
Janet N - 14 Nov 2005 03:11 GMT
> It's common (according to some of my doctors) for people's allergies to
> change as they age. You lose some, you gain some, and some just keep in
> there beating the crap out of you.

That makes sense.  I went to an allergist about 20 years ago to narrow down
some of my triggers, and at that time he told me that you could NEVER
outgrow an allergy.  I never could quite accept that, so I hope your docs
are right and mine was wrong.

That guy retired, and after a few years another came on the scene
(apparently that specialty is in short supply).  When I went to see him,
there were people eating in the waiting room... and of course the foods they
had were my most severe allergens, so I had to walk (run) away, inject
myself and phone in a cancellation.   I wouldn't go back... is it just me,
or should an allergist's waiting room not be kept as free of potential
triggers as possible?

The third and final attempt was with a really bright guy.  He narrowed down
my worst allergies and made some solid suggestions... then tried to sell me
a bunch of overpriced purifiers and cleaners.  Bye-bye number 3.

Is it really worth trying again?  The jury's still out on that one.

Janet N.
Norman - 14 Nov 2005 06:05 GMT
Depending on your allergies, good air filtration may be a very big help
(though I'd rather a doctor explain the types and let me choose my own).

Some of the new ionic filters seem to work well, and the large ones with
the HEPA filters are also good.

It also might be a good idea to check out those special mattress under-
covers; the ones which go under the sheets and block mites, etc.

The most important thing is to learn what you're allergic to and see
what you can do to avoid the triggers. I ended up quitting my Veterans'
group because of all of the smoking at the meetings.
Bonnie Brien - 14 Nov 2005 03:31 GMT
I'm allergic to cheap metal --causes rash and have had my whole life
Jo Firey - 14 Nov 2005 08:09 GMT
> I'm curious... do many of you develop strange allergies as you age?  It
> seems I am becoming allergic to nearly everything, and some of them are
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>
> Janet N.

Well, one thing they say about allergies is that you have to be exposed to
an allergin more then once to develop a sensitivity.  Makes sense you would
develop more as you get older.

jo
vickie b. - 14 Nov 2005 13:34 GMT
I have a friend who is a nutritionist.  She says that allergies are
cylic, in about a seven year cycle.  Some occur now and later leave and
then can return.  But once there you can count on about seven years.

Just my .0002,

Vickie B.
Adelle - 14 Nov 2005 13:59 GMT
Well then, I'm 45. Shouldn't my seven years by up by now?

Sorry, I think your friend is sadly mistaken or misled by someone.

Some allergies do come and go. Both my son and I outgrew certain food
allergies; have grown into mold allergies. All the changes had to do with
major growth changes in ourselves (two years old, for son, puberty and aging
for me).

As for the seasonal/environmental stuff; had them since I was little, have
never gone away.

Adelle

>I have a friend who is a nutritionist.  She says that allergies are
> cylic, in about a seven year cycle.  Some occur now and later leave and
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> Vickie B.
Jo Firey - 14 Nov 2005 18:03 GMT
>I have a friend who is a nutritionist.  She says that allergies are
> cylic, in about a seven year cycle.  Some occur now and later leave and
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>
> Vickie B.

I wish.  I've been allergic to ragweed, dust mites, mold, grasses cat
dander, (more so DSH than Siamese - there are two separate tests) at least
since I was eight years old.  I'll be sixty next month.  Allergy shots have
been a great help.  Now the manifestation of those allergies has changed
over the years.  Once I had really good solid asthma, hayfever pretty much
went away.  Rashes and hives have only been intermittent.  There is
something at a local freshwater beach that gives me hives.  And the asthma
has been milder since the arthritis had taken hold.

I just think I have a very single minded immune system.

Jo
Nann Bell - 18 Nov 2005 02:45 GMT
I'll weigh in as another who's had the same allergies for far too long.  I
surely wish I'd left behind that milk allergy that sprang up 40 years ago!  
And pollens, molds, house dust/dust mites have all been in the picture about
as long.  In fact, sometimes I'll try to delay changing the sheets on the bed
for one reason or another and I know it's time to get on it when I start
waking up all stuffed up and sneezing!

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>> I have a friend who is a nutritionist.  She says that allergies are
>> cylic, in about a seven year cycle.  Some occur now and later leave and
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> Jo
Cindy - 14 Nov 2005 14:55 GMT
My husband...has severe asthma and non allergic Rhinitis...You know he was
tested for allergies 2 in the last 10 years...Nope he isn't allergic, but
every allergen under the sun sets him off....Mainly the most common
ones...Being dust, mold, pollen, cigarette smoke...or just about anything
else you can think of....There are no shots for him....He can only treat the
symptoms...

My son inlaw takes allergy shots every week...sometimes twice a week...And
the doctor made him do another series of test...just recently..and yes his
serum had to be remade as his allergies had changed....

Cindy
> I'm curious... do many of you develop strange allergies as you age?  It
> seems I am becoming allergic to nearly everything, and some of them are
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> Janet N.
Alix M. Hall - 15 Nov 2005 02:04 GMT
There are things I am  mildly allergic to that do not bother me unless I
have a load of OTHER allergens  and then the mild ones can trigger an
episode--but since I moved to Florida, my asthma is down to only being
triggered when I get an URI or if there is really bad smoke in a
room--so.....

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Nann Bell - 18 Nov 2005 02:45 GMT
> There are things I am  mildly allergic to that do not bother me unless I
> have a load of OTHER allergens  and then the mild ones can trigger an
> episode--but since I moved to Florida, my asthma is down to only being
> triggered when I get an URI or if there is really bad smoke in a
> room--so.....

I'm kinda the same way - all my allergies had calmed down mostly when I had
major exposure to a major allergan and it kicked everything into hyperdrive
again.  Back to the testing and another round of shots.

My allergies have definitely changed from time to time, depending on the
prevailing pollens and molds in the part of the country I'm in and what I'm
being really exposed to.  Meanwhile, my dad didn't have allergies when he was
younger, but developed them after the age of 60 or so, joining the rest of
the family!

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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 15 Nov 2005 03:45 GMT
I know I sure meet this profile.  It seems things that never bothered me
before now do.  Sure would like an answer.

DeeTee

> I'm curious... do many of you develop strange allergies as you age?  It
> seems I am becoming allergic to nearly everything, and some of them are
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> Janet N.
Janet N - 15 Nov 2005 07:27 GMT
>I know I sure meet this profile.  It seems things that never bothered me
>before now do.  Sure would like an answer.
>
> DeeTee

Me too.  I'd like to join the ranks of those who replied that they outgrew
allergies... how sweet that would be (although my fish allergy only lasted a
year and a bit).  I figure as long as my years outnumber my allergies, I
have at least that to be thankful for.  LOL.

Janet N.
MikesBrain - 15 Nov 2005 23:47 GMT
2005-11-14, Responding to Janet N...
> I'm curious... do many of you develop strange allergies as
> you age?  It seems I am becoming allergic to nearly
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> Just being curious...

Here's a thought...

The human body is a complex structure of chemical compounds,
and not something that typically responds well to the
introduction of strange new ones.

100 years ago, there were only so many chemicals in the
human living environment. Today, the list of potentially
lethal chemical compounds we not only live alongside, but
absorb into our bodies, is alarming when you do a spot of
research. This list grows almost every day too.

So...

Maybe there is a good reason for conditions like MCS etc.
and that is that the human body can only tolerate so much
abuse before something reacts, and possibly permanently.

It may be that the question about allergies is a red
herring, assuming that only certain people have a reaction
to this and/or that. Maybe the question that needs asking is
about tolerance levels?

IOW, I may have a robust tolerance of a certain chemical
compound, but someone else may have a negative (they're
never positive huh?) physiological reaction, and be
diagnosed as "allergic" when in fact they are only really
noticably more sensitive, and then maybe only to a certain
combination of chemical compounds, and so on.

Given the amount of money behind chemical compound based
companies, the medical companies etc. (sometimes the same
thing) it would hardly be surprising that the "allergy"
model would be adopted by "the industry" rather that the
"tolerance" model.

Or am I just being a tad paranoid here? ;\

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Squirrely - 17 Nov 2005 06:52 GMT
Cindy,

I feel for your hubby, I am the same way. I have the asthma and non allergic
rhinitis too. I know how he suffers from it. He is in my thoughts.

I feel for anyone that has to deal with this stuff all the time.

I lost the post I was going to answer to you. So had to do it this way.

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Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

Janet N - 17 Nov 2005 06:56 GMT
> 2005-11-14, Responding to Janet N...
>
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> to this and/or that. Maybe the question that needs asking is
> about tolerance levels?

Interesting thought.  I know I have definite allergies, but also some which
have been diagnosed as intolerances.  The majority, however, fall into the
"unknown" category... they call them allergies, but who knows?  There seems
to be a very fine line between the two.

Janet N.
MikesBrain - 17 Nov 2005 12:15 GMT
2005-11-17, Responding to Janet N...

>> 2005-11-14, Responding to Janet N...
>>
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> they call them allergies, but who knows?  There seems to
> be a very fine line between the two.

What I'm proposing is that the term "allergy" itself is
inappropriate in more cases than one might think. It may be
that "allergy" is a far less "politically sensitive" term
than "tolerance levels", as once you start discussing
tolerance levels of the body, you have to also look at
"presence" of compounds that can and do compromise the
body's functions.

For instance, there are millions of people carrying hravy
metals in their bodies, without even being aware of these
toxix substances, as they have not yet developed an
"allergy". However, these materials are still doing harm and
eventually will cause a permanent problem.

Using the "allergy" model simply sets a top-limit whereby IF
an undeniable link is DXed, then the VICTIM can be the focus
due to THEIR "allergies", rather than the investigation that
is really required, asking WHY these chemical compourds are
in our environment in the first place, or in the case of an
"allergy" to a natural compound, say a plant, WHY someone's
body is so negatively sensitive to it.

IOW, "allergy" discludes "environmental toxin investigation"

When you consider all the nasty chemicals that are deployed
in our living environments, MCS starts to make a whole lot
more sense, for everybody, not just the *significantly*
affected. :(

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Janet N - 18 Nov 2005 04:26 GMT
> Using the "allergy" model simply sets a top-limit whereby IF
> an undeniable link is DXed, then the VICTIM can be the focus
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> "allergy" to a natural compound, say a plant, WHY someone's
> body is so negatively sensitive to it.

Excellent point.  But we do tend to treat the symptoms and defer the
investigation as to the causes... human nature, I guess.

Janet N.
Squirrely - 17 Nov 2005 06:50 GMT
Raising hand here. I know the feeling Janet.

I the same way. As I get older, it seems more and more allergies are added
in.

I do not trust their allergy blood tests though. They said I was only
allergic to timothy grass. Then I would like to know why I react to
everything they tested me for. I had swollen mouth, tongue, throat from
eating seafood. They say I am not allergic to it on their blood tests. Like
yeah I will really try that one again since supposedly I am not allergic to
it. Yeah right. I think they don't have any reliable testing any more.

I feel for you. I know it is not fun.  As they say getting older isn't for
wimps and I can see why they say that as I get older.

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Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> I'm curious... do many of you develop strange allergies as you age?  It
> seems I am becoming allergic to nearly everything, and some of them are
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>
> Janet N.
Gwen Love - 18 Nov 2005 00:56 GMT
SJ. I'm inclined to agree with you.  I went to an allergist not too long
ago
and she said the only things I was slightly allergic to were mold,
roaches,
and Johnson grass.  But there were about 20 things listed that she didn't
even test me for.  And during the worst of allergy season, I can hardly
breathe.
Gwen

> Raising hand here. I know the feeling Janet.
>
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>> Janet N.
Janet N - 18 Nov 2005 04:30 GMT
> I do not trust their allergy blood tests though. They said I was only
> allergic to timothy grass. Then I would like to know why I react to
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> allergic to it. Yeah right. I think they don't have any reliable testing
> any more.

When I was first tested for allergies, the doctor made it quite clear to me
that food allergy testing was far from accurate.  It said that I was fine
with oranges, which cause an anaphylactic reaction immediately upon
exposure.  Told me also that I was allergic to chocolate, which I dispute
based solely on the fact that such an allergy would be too cruel to
contemplate :-)

Janet N.
Squirrely - 18 Nov 2005 15:52 GMT
Oh no Janet, we won't let you be allergic to choc. There should be a law
about that one. ;-)

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Squirrely Jo

> When I was first tested for allergies, the doctor made it quite clear to
> me that food allergy testing was far from accurate.  It said that I was
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>
> Janet N.
Squirrely - 18 Nov 2005 15:51 GMT
I feel for you. I know how it is. Take care ok. How are you doing?

SJ. I'm inclined to agree with you.  I went to an allergist not too long
ago
and she said the only things I was slightly allergic to were mold,
roaches,
and Johnson grass.  But there were about 20 things listed that she didn't
even test me for.  And during the worst of allergy season, I can hardly
breathe.
Gwen
 
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