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new e-bay phishing scheme - read if you sell on ebay!

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Mary Z - 05 Nov 2005 00:14 GMT
from f-secure

A new kind of eBay phishing attempt is going around. It's only going
to fool people who have something for sale on eBay, because it's
disguised as a question from another eBay member about shipping costs
for "your item".

It even includes the boilerplate from a genuine eBay message which
says "Your registered name is included to show this message originated
from eBay", although it does not in fact contain your registered eBay
screen name, for obvious reasons. The phishers only have your email
address, not your eBay screen name. (Of course, they might be the
same, or at least similar. One more reason to invent a truly unique
screen name for all the on-line services you subscribe to.)

The message contains a button to reply to the buyer and, of course,
you must sign in with your name and password to respond.

Because the message contains a number of fingerprints which are
typical for forged messages, both spam and phish, it's already
detected by our existing phishing rules.

This brings up another point, though. The majority of these
fingerprints are based on header analysis. But when we get a spam or
phishing sample, we frequently only get the body of the message (and
sometimes only something like a copy-paste of what the user actually
sees, or even just a screen shot).

In fact, a number of "modern" email clients make it very very hard
indeed to forward a message with the full original headers intact. If
you are connected to an Exchange server, it's not even possible.
(Fortunately, we hear Microsoft is finally working on this.)

An example of what takes in Outlook to send a proper sample is at
http://www.umkc.edu/is/cs/abuse/headers_outlook.htm, but see your own
ISP's abuse pages, they probably have something quite similar ... and
similary complex.

If you want to send us a proper spam or phishing sample, it would
actually be a fairly good idea to install a third-party plug-in to
help extract the full headers. We are aware of such plug-ins for
Outlook and Eudora.

Ironically, those of us who still live in the "stone age" don't have
such problems. In classical email clients such as Mutt and Gnus (and,
${dmr} bless you, Pine, if you configure it correctly) this is not a
problem at all.

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Ann - 05 Nov 2005 01:06 GMT
Mary, I'm not a seller and I've been getting these and similar emails
almost daily for the past couple of weeks.  It seems to have started
after I made a purchase on ebay.  They certainly look authentic and I
urge people to check their messages directly on "My EBAY" to make sure
they are not phish.

Ann
Nann Bell - 05 Nov 2005 16:01 GMT
> Mary, I'm not a seller and I've been getting these and similar emails
> almost daily for the past couple of weeks.  It seems to have started
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>
> Ann

It's happening to everyone.  My husband's been getting them a lot lately
along with the infamous PayPal phishes.  He's had no contact with either
group at any time, all the ebay and PayPal stuff's been through me.  He's
learned to delete everything that doesn't come from a person he knows.  (of
course, it's not too bad anyway as we have a Mac, but it's good to train
him.)

We also get endless fake earthlink messages, but we don't use our "dominant"
address for anything but earthlink contact, so stuff that comes to us is
known to be fake.

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shenmei9@aol.com - 05 Nov 2005 18:49 GMT
...and then send those messages to spoof@ebay.com  or spoof @paypal.com
for the paypal ones.  Ebay does investigate.  It isn't just ebay-never,
ever use a hyper link sent to you by email.  I got a great one the
other day that sounded so official but alas...they misspelled
SafeHabor.  Finding typos and huge grammatical errors is quite a fun
game.  Got to tell you that if I were investing that kind of time in
crime, I'd at least hire an editor.
Jo Firey - 05 Nov 2005 19:55 GMT
> ...and then send those messages to spoof@ebay.com  or spoof @paypal.com
> for the paypal ones.  Ebay does investigate.  It isn't just ebay-never,
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> game.  Got to tell you that if I were investing that kind of time in
> crime, I'd at least hire an editor.

Must be kind to the "disadvantaged".  Those poor internet hackers in
southeast Asia mangle the English language just fine, but then so do
Americans.

From a paid obituary in yesterday's paper.  Trying to sum up a man's life in
a few lines.  "Born in Sacramento, CA he was a life long native Californian"

Jo
Nann Bell - 06 Nov 2005 04:39 GMT
> Finding typos and huge grammatical errors is quite a fun
> game.  Got to tell you that if I were investing that kind of time in
> crime, I'd at least hire an editor.

I know what you mean!  We periodically get ones purporting to be from Earth
Link - not EarthLink.  It's only a little space, but it's enough to let me
know immediately that it's trash.

Heh, but assuming we do switch to the local wireless broadband ISP in '06,
we'll be playing with email addresses more to avoid spam.  It's amazing how
much Mike gets when all he does is email to certain people, but then we are
on a major ISP right now.  

BTW, how are you doing Melinda?

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DianeW - 11 Nov 2005 23:37 GMT
I just got one of these!  I'm sure glad you had posted this. It was odd
because I don't sell on ebay -- ony buy.  DianeW
 
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