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Steve - 26 Oct 2005 01:20 GMT
Hello all,

My Doc has finally opened his eyes to what I am saying (as well as what an
ortho. surgeon stated) that I suffer acute arthritis in my lower back. This
coupled with this distinct cracking and grinding of my hips and shoulders
has prompted him to order additional tests. He has swore up and down for 4
months that I have tendonitis not arthritis and Rx'd me Naproxen. Has anyone
ever heard anything so stupid? Tendonitis of the lower back. Absurd. Perhaps
I should have called the veteranarian first.

Peace and prayers to all,
Steve
Uv - 26 Oct 2005 01:30 GMT
> Hello all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Peace and prayers to all,
> Steve

No worse than my dx of "Carpal Tunnel Syndrome" in my feet, ankles, knees
and spine..

Good luck, Steve, now that you have access to a clue!
Alison DeLorme - 26 Oct 2005 01:50 GMT
I had to laugh at this... I mean, did the doc skip the day that they talked
about location of the "carpel tunnel?!" LOL   Seriously though, carpel
tunnel like symptoms do occur in other joints. Of course, they are named
after the "tunnels" that are affected. But the doc. might have been just
trying to explain it in simple terms.  I have this in my inner ankle and the
base of my thumbs. I can't remember the names but they are very similar in
symptoms and treatment to carpal tunnel.... Of course, given that these are
much more rare than capal tunnel, they typically are part of a larger
disease process. the ineptness of some doctors....

alison
Uv - 26 Oct 2005 03:19 GMT
>I had to laugh at this... I mean, did the doc skip the day that they talked
>about location of the "carpel tunnel?!" LOL   Seriously though, carpel
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> alison

Her words were "You have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from typing at your job" (I
was a stay at home mom at the time)

I asked her "What about the pain in the rest of my body? I'm in agony, my
toes and fingers are swollen and I have spasms in my back the pain is so
bad"

She said "We'll deal with your back and leg and foot pain next time I see
you, How about 2 months from now you come in?"

What I had was a sudden onset of Psoriatic Arthritis. I was incapacitated
for months.

Carpal Tunnel my big fat arse!!!

The next doctor I saw looked at me for 30 seconds and said "Psoriatic
Arthritis" and put me on MTX and Sulfasalizine and Prednisone immediately.

Don't stop looking until it makes sense!!

Know your body!
and don't take "Carpal Tunnel" or "General Malaise" for an answer!  :o)
Joan Carter - 26 Oct 2005 04:23 GMT
>She said "We'll deal with your back and leg and foot pain next time I see
>you, How about 2 months from now you come in?"

Oh, sweet! Not her pain, was it?
---
Joan
Uv - 26 Oct 2005 12:29 GMT
>>She said "We'll deal with your back and leg and foot pain next time I see
>>you, How about 2 months from now you come in?"
>
> Oh, sweet! Not her pain, was it?

didn't bother her a bit... I'm sure she slept great for those 8 weeks.

The pitiful thing was, that at the ripe old age of 32, I was sitting there
(because I couldn't stand) In the span of 3 weeks  my fingers had curled up
into claws, my back was hunched over from the swelling in between my
vertebra, my knees were bent and my hips kept locking from the pain. My feet
had swollen to the point that I could not get my shoes on, and I needed help
unbuttoning my blouse to nurse the baby that I was holding....

and to think all it was was a simple case of "carpal tunnel"

I wanted to send a carpal up HER tunnel!

You know why she focused on my hands? Because she asked me "What is
bothering you the most right now, and we'll focus on fixing that, the other
symptoms we'll have to deal with at a later date"

I said my hands bother me the most because I needed them. I couldn't diaper
the baby that I had just given birth to 3 weeks before, I couldn't dress
her, open my bra, get up to take care of her, bathing her was out of the
question. I really wanted my hands functioning soon. She took each limb as a
separate disease instead of looking at my whole body swelling up in the
joints.

poohead.

:o/
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 30 Oct 2005 15:19 GMT
I wish with all my heart that we could shake hands with people and for just
an instant allow them to truly feel our pain.  I don't wish it full time on
anyone! But I think if doctors and the ignorants could just feel it for a
few seconds, they would be far more compassionate.

DeeTee

>>>She said "We'll deal with your back and leg and foot pain next time I see
>>>you, How about 2 months from now you come in?"
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> :o/
Nann Bell - 31 Oct 2005 16:04 GMT
> I wish with all my heart that we could shake hands with people and for just
> an instant allow them to truly feel our pain.  I don't wish it full time on
> anyone! But I think if doctors and the ignorants could just feel it for a
> few seconds, they would be far more compassionate.
>
> DeeTee

ahhhhhh, yes - especailly if we can have tehm feeling the pain we have when
they insist on squeezing our fingers!

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Gwen Love - 02 Nov 2005 01:04 GMT
Nann, I've read that if you extend your hand with the palm down, you can get
away from the squeezers.
Gwen

>> I wish with all my heart that we could shake hands with people and for
>> just
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> when
> they insist on squeezing our fingers!
Nann Bell - 02 Nov 2005 16:55 GMT
> Nann, I've read that if you extend your hand with the palm down, you can get
> away from the squeezers.
> Gwen

Unfortunately, all my tricks thus far have been defeating some of the older
women around here.  Firstly, they grab your hand without you offering it!  
Then they squeeze wherever they grab.  Many of these women have done hard
physical work over the years, at least lots of farming or gardening in
addition to whatever else they did.  They have STRONG hands for squeezing!

The worst is that after I pry off their squeezing hand, WHILE I am telling
them "No!" and "Let me take YOUR hand", they'll grab it again!  Mike tells me
to just start screaming when they squeeze, but the recent incidents have been
in situations where my screams would be disturbing to many, many folks.

I do seem to be making progress with some of them.  The amazing thing is that
they do this even when I have my splints on!  I've had NO trouble with the
men around here though - they are polite enough to only take my hand if I
offer and that allows me to control how it's done.  They also seem to take
more notice of the splints.

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Jo Firey - 02 Nov 2005 17:56 GMT
>> Nann, I've read that if you extend your hand with the palm down, you can
>> get
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> offer and that allows me to control how it's done.  They also seem to take
> more notice of the splints.

Sounds like you may need to do some training sooner rather than later.  You
can't be the only one there who suffers from enthusiastic hand shaking.
Just something along the lines of "please, my hands are really sore today"

Jo
Carolj52@webtv.net - 01 Nov 2005 04:10 GMT
DeeTee,That is so true,if Drs. and ignorants could just feel the pain a
few minutes.I thought the samething when my ortho.Dr.told me he'd give
me the steroid shots for my wrists in 4 weeks if they are still
bothering me.They've only been bad since July,whats another 4 weeks.I
sure do wish he could feel it.GRRRR.....Carol
Skip - 01 Nov 2005 13:50 GMT
One day I was in a really pissy mood and my usually terrific doc was in a
hurry and didn't really address my questions all that well.  After she left
I dug my heels in and stayed right where I was.  When the nurse came in to
prep the room for the next patient I said the doc had walked out while she
was talking about my meds and I was waiting for her to come back to finish
what she was saying.

Petty, but it worked

> DeeTee,That is so true,if Drs. and ignorants could just feel the pain a
> few minutes.I thought the samething when my ortho.Dr.told me he'd give
> me the steroid shots for my wrists in 4 weeks if they are still
> bothering me.They've only been bad since July,whats another 4 weeks.I
> sure do wish he could feel it.GRRRR.....Carol
Nann Bell - 01 Nov 2005 16:24 GMT
> One day I was in a really pissy mood and my usually terrific doc was in a
> hurry and didn't really address my questions all that well.  After she left
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Petty, but it worked

heehee  some days are just like that and once in a while it feels really good
to do something just like you did!

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Alison DeLorme - 27 Oct 2005 04:41 GMT
what an idiot!!! (in regards to the doc below that is!)! I hope you fired
her butt quick!

alison

>>>Her words were "You have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from typing at your job"
>>>(I
was a stay at home mom at the time)

I asked her "What about the pain in the rest of my body? I'm in agony, my
toes and fingers are swollen and I have spasms in my back the pain is so
bad"

She said "We'll deal with your back and leg and foot pain next time I see
you, How about 2 months from now you come in?"<<<
Alison DeLorme - 26 Oct 2005 01:42 GMT
Welcome Steve! Glad you found us. It's a great place for support. As for hte
tendonitits, as strange as it sounds, it actually can be true. Tendonitis
can occur everywhere there are tendons - basically at every joint in the
body. Tendonitis is a big part of my problem, and I have an official dx of
juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (now as an adult just considered RA). I have
it in my back, chest, feet, elbow, shoulder, hands - you name it... Not
saying that there's not more going on... Typically with "odd" place
tendonitis (basically anyplace other than elbow and knee), there's an
underlying immune problem - at least one form of arthritis at work... Glad
you are finally on the right track with seeing the right dr.
(rheumatologist - right? don't settle for an orthopedist. They are good for
certain things, but a rheum needs to rule out or dx. arthritis

alison
Nanny - 26 Oct 2005 03:40 GMT
Good thing you didn't cat the vet first, Steve.  You know how hard those
"horse pills" are to swallow :-)  And, by the way, welcome to the support
Arthritis group!
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> Hello all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Peace and prayers to all,
> Steve
Nann Bell - 26 Oct 2005 04:10 GMT
Ouch!  Unfortuantely, we have heard other doctor horror stories, but we sitll
hate to hear new ones.  One member who is currently silenced because typing
is too painful, always reminds us that *someone* had to graduate at the
bottom of the class!  LOL

Don't think I'm making fun of you, please, we just have to joke about this
stuff somtimes to keep us from turning into a Raging Renegade Gimp Posse
touring the country to weed out the incompetent doctors.

I'm fortunate to have had no joint problems in my spine, but I have had a few
disc problems and some muscle and tendon probs.  Those were bad enough.  I
hope you get some competent help for your back soon.  (We do have some folks
here who are very knowledgeable about backs.  If they haven't already
answered you, they'll be along in a bit.)

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spodosaurus - 26 Oct 2005 08:37 GMT
> Hello all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Peace and prayers to all,
> Steve

Why is it absurd? There are plenty of tendons along the spine, with
insertions at every vertebrae. If you end up with chronic inflamation in
these tendons, you'll have cracking and popping and pain. What did the
"additional tests" show?

cheers,

Ari

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Charrlygrl1 - 26 Oct 2005 17:46 GMT
Hi Steve,
This is almost exactly what happened to me. I have AS (ankylosing
spondylitis, which is in the same group (reactive arthritis) as
psoriatic arthritis-they are all spondyloarthropathies, and by
definition affect the back).
Since my problems started with my wrists, I was first diagnosed with
carpal tunnel.
That being said, depending on the type of arthritis you have, tendon
probelms and problems where the tendons attach to the bone are not
unusual at all. I have had problems with my achilles tendons, where
they attach to my heel-plantar's fasciitis, I believe it's called. The
pain in the heels is really bad at times.
I hope that it can be successfully treated for you,
Charlene
dawn - 26 Oct 2005 23:28 GMT
Welcome, you will find lots of help and support with us.  I don't post
often but I read them every day.

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