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Rosemarie Shiver - 04 Oct 2005 00:27 GMT
Hiya, ASA,

    Good RD visit 2day. I'm back on the MTX but without Pred. Yay! The
Plaquenil didn't do anything at all for me. I'm also on Lodine. I didn't
know you could take Prilosec twice a day but since Lodine's hard on my
stomach  I will be taking a Lodine paired with a Prilosec twice each day.

   Finally something(s) I know can kick arse on this UTCD. He sez that I'm
one step from Lupus and I gotta get this under control NOW; even tho' it's
highly dubious that I could ever develop full blown Lupus. But the Lupus
indicator is there at the 1:320 titer when Lupus is 1:640...speckled. It's
been going on too long and is damaging my knees especially, plus neck and
spine. So yup...MTX each Saturday and my folic acid and Grape Seed Extract
and I'll send Normie out for Milk Thistle if I should need some.
Finally....I've been really miserable these past coupla months. I get to
increase my MTX little by little over the next few months as I feel is
needed. Wow...trusted to handle it. Great, right? :-)))) Being an oldie here
has made it so I really can handle it...thanks to youse all. <g>

    Doc sez I also have arthritic pain probs. due to Human Parvo B-19 and
we discussed my former Epstein-Barr exposure. Along with the DJD and DDD
that makes 3 pain indices, sez he, so I'm believed on that. He has asked me
about my FM and feels I can keep that under good control. I think I'll ask
for a Neurontin increase from my PCP based on these findings of pain
indices.

    Hi! My name is Rosie and I'm still a Gimp. <curtsey, tilt, fall over>

Hugs from Rosie

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Jo Firey - 04 Oct 2005 01:15 GMT
> Hiya, ASA,
>
>     Hi! My name is Rosie and I'm still a Gimp. <curtsey, tilt, fall over>
>
> Hugs from Rosie

You just made a fellow gimp laugh out loud.

Jo
Rosemarie Shiver - 05 Oct 2005 00:43 GMT
{{Jo}}

   An LOL a day keeps the blues at bay! <g>

Smiles and Hugs from Rosie

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> > Hiya, ASA,
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> Jo
johnie - 04 Oct 2005 01:20 GMT
> Hiya, ASA,
> My name is Rosie and I'm still a Gimp. <curtsey, tilt, fall over.

Hey Rosie, your not just any ol' gimp...
your 'Super Gimp' and don't ya forget it...

here come some big ol' "Giant Gimp Hugs" just cause i ain't seen ya in
such a
friggin long time.
johnie
Rosemarie Shiver - 05 Oct 2005 00:45 GMT
  It HAS been too friggin' long and this place needs ya and doncha fergit
IT, johnie Hon. >bg< tm johnie

Super Gimpy Hugs from Rosie

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> > Hiya, ASA,
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> friggin long time.
> johnie
Harvey R. Stone - 04 Oct 2005 03:21 GMT
Oh my Rosie,,,,  Some of what you say kind of scares me.   Lupus is
something to be feared,,,, so do what your doctor tells you to stay ahead of
that.   Your humor when facing this just floors me...  so tuff,,, my hat is
off to you.
Harv

> Hiya, ASA,
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> Hugs from Rosie
Charrlygrl1 - 04 Oct 2005 18:18 GMT
Oh my gosh, Rosie, you sure do have a lot going on!
It's amazing that you still have such a good sense of humor.
I have ankylosing spondylitis (and fibro), and no one believed me about
anything for quite a while, until finally the MRIs confirmed what I was
saying.
Plaquenil also did not work for me...neither did about 10 different
NSAIDS.
I was on MTX before I was diagnosed, but not for long enough and not at
a high enough dosage. Since then I have changed RDs twice, and my new
one has me back on it...and has slowly raised me up to 8 pills per week
(20mgs).
After 2.5 years, I can finally say that two weeks ago, the day after I
took the MTX, I felt BETTER! I was so relieved that I cried. Even
though I am on Enbrel, prednisone, azulfidine and what feels like a
million others...I haven't felt this well in a long, long time. I can
say that around Tuesday (I take the MTX on Weds night), it seems like
it starts to wear off.
I hope that the MTX does the same for you...please just remember to be
patient (which is often very hard), but worth the wait if it works,
((Gimpy Rosie))
Charlene
Rosemarie Shiver - 05 Oct 2005 00:53 GMT
Yeah, Char2,

   A friend here accused me ( teasingly) of being an alphabet hog with all
the letters I've got goin' on. They keep moving the return line on me!!!
    I was on MTX and Pred. 5 years ago...yeah I've been here a long time
<g> and the Pred. made me really sick but the MTX was good. It's good again
and I'm lucky. When they took away the Bextra I got worse and worse and then
the hurricanes here and I ain't been the Rosiest of Rosies for over a year
now. But I've got the MTX back and yup.....you describe it so very well
exactly how it feels.
    I'll be writing more on AMF too now that I've got a doc and a treatment
plan for whut I actually have.
    I'm glad your AS is kept under some semblance of control with MTX.
People write here that it's scary....but MTX always has been berry berry
good to me. But like Loujean Pred. is so nasty. :-( Mileage varied, as they
say.

Charrly Hugs from Rosie2

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> Oh my gosh, Rosie, you sure do have a lot going on!
> It's amazing that you still have such a good sense of humor.
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> ((Gimpy Rosie))
> Charlene
Squirrely - 04 Oct 2005 20:53 GMT
Thanks Harv for posting this with Rosies message at the bottom. I didn't see
it come in.

Rosie,

Sweetie, I hope the MTX does the trick for you. I know you have been in so
much pain and suffering for a long time now. You take care and I hope this
works quickly for you. Know that I am always thinking of you.

Oh by the way when we talked the other day. I am only on pred for 4 days at
a time. It is when the adrenals go into crisis from the start of addisons.
So I just finished my four day course yesterday. I hope that did the trick
this one hit me hard this time. Also lungs acting up too. So I hope I didn't
stop the pred too soon. ;-)

It was so good to hear your voice. I know Denise appreciated the call too.
;-)

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> Oh my Rosie,,,,  Some of what you say kind of scares me.   Lupus is
> something to be feared,,,, so do what your doctor tells you to stay ahead
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>> Hugs from Rosie
Rosemarie Shiver - 05 Oct 2005 01:01 GMT
Squishy,

    Yeah...I was hoping to get on MTX again and so he did. <g>  Between U
and johnie I worry about that Pred. but if ya gotta ya gotta. I really
should call when yer off it, tho' :-)

    I hope you're doing much better really soon too, m'dear!

Squirrely Hugs from Rosie

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> Thanks Harv for posting this with Rosies message at the bottom. I didn't see
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> >> Hugs from Rosie
Rosemarie Shiver - 05 Oct 2005 00:57 GMT
Well Harv,

    As they say...if you can't be smart ya gotta be tuff. The prob. was the
docs I used to have were rather more tuffer than I and less smart...to my
detriment. Now that I got an RD who really knows about tests and viruses and
isn't afraid of the big guns against Arthur and Loopy I'll be better from
here out.

    You tell so many so often that the really strong meds. are a must and
it's easier to not be as tuff now that I've got the tuff stuff drugs again.
:-)

Harv Hugs from Rosie

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> Oh my Rosie,,,,  Some of what you say kind of scares me.   Lupus is
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Navy1 - 04 Oct 2005 21:30 GMT
Watch it, Rosie, we gimps get damaged when we fall over. LOL  I'm not
on prednisone because I'm not ever supposed to take it.  I have
Cryptococcal Sinusitis in 1990 and they think it got ahold of me
because I had been taking prednisone for poison ivy and sinus
infections and my immune system was weak.  So far, I've been fortunate
in that I am taking Arthrotec 75 and it works quite well, with a
little help from Ultraset when there is breakthrough pain or aching.
I do find I tire more easily than I did before.  I went back to work
from retirement as a contractor to help them out until they could
replace the guy who replaced me.  I am a tooling design engineer and
do love the work, but I just can't keep up with the work load and the
traffic has become just horrible out where I work (used to be in the
"country").  It is a machine gun factory!  Needless to say, we have
lots of work.  I am realizing my limits - I turn 67 next week on the
13th (want to have some fun? turn 40 on Friday the 13th!!!).  With the
cartilage wearing out on my knees (had Hyalgan put in the left - works
pretty well) and so on and so on, I think it's time to hang up the old
slip stick (slide rule to the uninformed!) and enjoy retirement.  So,
I told them that November 30th was it.  They would have to sink or
swim from then on.

Loujean
PS. Sorry to take whine on your topic, Rosie, it just came out!

>Hiya, ASA,
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>Hugs from Rosie
Rosemarie Shiver - 05 Oct 2005 00:41 GMT
Heya. Loujean,

  No prob.! Ain't mine, I don't own it. :-) Besides, I'm with ya at the
chronic pain NG too so any thread I start please feel free to whine away. I
really don't much at all so you can have all the slack. <g>

  I'm with you that taking away my Bextra was awful...but it did expose
that I have all this underneath that's been going on, so in that way it's
good that the Bextra got gone.

  Machine gun factory? I'm being nice, really I am!!

   Doesn't sound to me like you're really retiring; I think you'll find
stuff to keep you active.

Hugs from Gimpy Rosie

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> Watch it, Rosie, we gimps get damaged when we fall over. LOL  I'm not
> on prednisone because I'm not ever supposed to take it.  I have
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Nanny - 05 Oct 2005 02:48 GMT
....and as Nanny is trying to pick up Rosie to set her on her feet once
again, 2 gimps are on the floor ;-)  I know about the Prilosec twice a day.
I'm taking it for GERD, and right now I'm up to 40 mg. 2/times a day.  I
don't like the sound of "Lupus", friend, although I know there are some fine
people here who are unfortunate to have it.  Take care of yourself!  Nanny
> Hiya, ASA,
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> Hugs from Rosie
Rosemarie Shiver - 05 Oct 2005 03:45 GMT
{{{Glo}}}

   Golly, I wouldn't wanna get yer fake knee outta joint...so don't DO dat,
ok? LOL

   Nah, really...highly dubious means 1 outta 100 turns into full Lupus.
This is Lupus-like. Slightly Loopy. With me things are unusual or weird, but
not often rare or unique. It's much more likely a Lottery machine will spark
and flame when I go by rather than my actually winning any Lottery game. Odd
things rather than trying to count hen's teeth. So I won't get the organ
involvement. I dunno if this is related to the EDS or not....this doc isn't
saying one way or the other and I dunno other EDS'ers who have this.

     BTW I hope that my shot post settles yer ??? Nannykins. :-)

Bizarro Hugs ;-) from Rosie
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> ....and as Nanny is trying to pick up Rosie to set her on her feet once
> again, 2 gimps are on the floor ;-)  I know about the Prilosec twice a day.
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Charrlygrl1 - 05 Oct 2005 18:37 GMT
ROFL!!!!!!
Rosie, your remark about the lottery machine sums up my entire
life!!!!!
LOL, I'm not alone!!!!!
In my case, the lottery machine would probably fall and crush me!
Char2
Rosemarie Shiver - 05 Oct 2005 19:47 GMT
Ah, Charrly!! LOL

   It IS nice to know I'm not alone, too. I dunno if you've seen.....but
we've had long threads on the FM NG about FM'ers and electrical fields being
disrupted by us. There's a LOT of us who do that. Walking disaster areas!
LOL My hubby is getting tired of me messing up hard drives....just by
sitting too close. :-( Those who don't make watches stop and blow out
streetlights really don't <and can't> get it. It's too bad you share it, but
it's good that you and I are in good company, right? Odd, yes...but unique?
Nah. LOLOL

POW & BANG Hugs from Rosie

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> ROFL!!!!!!
> Rosie, your remark about the lottery machine sums up my entire
> life!!!!!
> LOL, I'm not alone!!!!!
> In my case, the lottery machine would probably fall and crush me!
> Char2
Paul T. Holland - 09 Oct 2005 22:18 GMT
ha! you should try being on an elevator with me - can't get those danged
electrostatic buttons to work right - never quite the same - push and push and
nothing at all or just brush my hand across and set off a whole row of 'em!
also, mostly had to quite wearing battery watches - never keep good time with
one, and i've gotten a couple of expensive ones as presents - not to mention
touch screens in the stores!

now, i've held off as long as i can: who told ya that being 'loopy' was part of
your medical???

dee, dee, dum, do, do.....

> Ah, Charrly!! LOL
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> > Char2
 
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