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Diane - 30 Sep 2005 05:56 GMT
well, this is the first time i've lived any place that has lizards.
they are very slender, maybe 6 inches long, with electric blue tails.
cute!

lately, though, i've noticed droppings on my front walk. i researched
them (i'm obsessed. so far since moving to raleigh i've researched orb
weavers, bug eggs and now this. . .) and have narrowed down these
white-tipped droppings to either a lizard or a snake. the lizards look
too skinny to be producing these droppings. how do i know if they're
from a lizard or a snake?

diane, nature girl (not)
Carole - 30 Sep 2005 08:58 GMT
> well, this is the first time i've lived any place that has lizards.
> they are very slender, maybe 6 inches long, with electric blue tails.
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>
> diane, nature girl (not)

Gee Diane, between the things in your tub and now this, I can see you
writing a really good sci fi movie :))

Carole
Nann Bell - 30 Sep 2005 14:13 GMT
Are you sure those are the only lizards around?  In your neck of the woods,
I'd expect some of the cute little green lizards, too  ;)  Um, the electric
blue tail sounds a lot like a skink.  At least down in Gainesville they could
get larger than you say, but you didn't see the larger ones as much for some
reason.  Maybe you are just seeing the smaller ones.  

Gotta admit, you're the first person I've known down south who actually
researched some of the droppings on the front walk.  Most of us just live
with them, maybe occasionally wash them off - a light bleach solution from
time to time does wonder on the mold and dirt and droppings remnants.

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Harvey R. Stone - 30 Sep 2005 14:51 GMT
how do i know if they're
> from a lizard or a snake?
>
> diane, nature girl (not)

As a general rule if it has legs,,,, it is not a snake.
Harv
diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 30 Sep 2005 14:59 GMT
Anacondas and pythons have vestiges of the pelvic girdle in the form of
spurs, but I would be surprised (and I guess you would too) if it were
either one of those.

I was following your bath egg? saga, but didn't get a final answer.
Were the object in your water supply/bath insects or what ?

Peter

> how do i know if they're
> > from a lizard or a snake?
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> As a general rule if it has legs,,,, it is not a snake.
> Harv
d'huit - 30 Sep 2005 17:05 GMT
<chuckling>  maybe the droppings come from a snizzard?  at least in the
meantime, until you discover your local naturalist, an elderly person, or a
kid in the neighborhood to ask.  yeah, snizzard droppings sound about right.
don't they?

kate

> well, this is the first time i've lived any place that has lizards.
> they are very slender, maybe 6 inches long, with electric blue tails.
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>
> diane, nature girl (not)
Diane - 30 Sep 2005 17:51 GMT
kate, good to hear your sense of humor is intact. or maybe it's just
the pain meds talking?
snizzard sounds good to me. that's what i'll call them. snizzard
droppings.

and peter, it turns out the "bug eggs" were resin beads from our water
softener. our water pressure was too high, so we had that fixed.
however. . . the eggs seem to be reappearing. mystery still not quite
over, but at least i know they're not going to hatch.

diane
vickie b. - 01 Oct 2005 06:21 GMT
Dear Diane,

While I grew up in a different part of NC, I don't remember lizards!  I
do remember snakes and lots of droppings, but we were more rural.  I've
been gone for 32 years!  (Please don't do the math.  I'm not that old!)

Here we have geckos but they don't leave droppings that we find.  I
mentioned this to my nature loving daughter (now 15 1/2) she became
concerned.  She said that anything with red is bleeding inside!  (no, I
don't think this is necessarily so)

Take care,

Vickie B.
Diane - 01 Oct 2005 17:53 GMT
> Dear Diane,
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> Vickie B.
Diane - 01 Oct 2005 17:53 GMT
> Dear Diane,
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> Vickie B.
Diane - 01 Oct 2005 17:54 GMT
hmm, i think i just screwed up a message. sorry.

so vickie, how big were those snake droppings?

diane, still trying to figure it out
d'huit - 02 Oct 2005 01:39 GMT
kate, good to hear your sense of humor is intact. or maybe it's just
the pain meds talking?
snizzard sounds good to me. that's what i'll call them. snizzard
droppings.

might have been a rock n roll combo.<g>  "snizzards" has been adopted into
lexicon, cool.  now, i can say i'm a darwinistic lexeme-ist.LOL

kate

kate

and peter, it turns out the "bug eggs" were resin beads from our water
softener. our water pressure was too high, so we had that fixed.
however. . . the eggs seem to be reappearing. mystery still not quite
over, but at least i know they're not going to hatch.

diane
DianeW - 01 Oct 2005 18:17 GMT
We have lots of lizards around here in Florida and I've never noticed
the type of dropping you are mentioning. We do get droppings from the
frogs especially if we leave the porch light on overnight. DianeW
Uv - 01 Oct 2005 19:07 GMT
> well, this is the first time i've lived any place that has lizards.
> they are very slender, maybe 6 inches long, with electric blue tails.
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>
> diane, nature girl (not)

The white tip of the "scat" or dung is uric acid, the lizard's way of
removing what it would if it urinated. This way the critter doesn't lose
fluid, just the waste part of the body..

it's from a lizard.
Snakes poop looks different.

Uv (who thinks this is a shitty subject  :o)   )
Diane - 02 Oct 2005 04:33 GMT
thank you, uv! i love my little snizzards, but they sure do make a
mess. found some poop on the vertical brick wall today, so i guess a
snake couldn't have done it.

diane
diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 02 Oct 2005 12:27 GMT
Just occurred to me that birds leave droppings which usually contain a
white uric acid element. Could it be that Hitchcock is planning a
revival in your area ?

Ps Thanks for resin/egg news.

Peter
Uv - 02 Oct 2005 15:42 GMT
> thank you, uv! i love my little snizzards, but they sure do make a
> mess. found some poop on the vertical brick wall today, so i guess a
> snake couldn't have done it.
>
> diane

Just an FYI on pewp.. Snake scat tends to have hair and bones and harder
almost recognizable protein matter in it due to the nature of what snakes
eat vs. what snizzards eat. Lizards, at the size you're seeing, will eat
bugs mostly ( a good reason to keep them around, consider each poop to be 50
mosquitoes and 100 gnats that you didn't have to be bitten by!). Snakes will
eat frogs and mice and very small lizards (the kind that leave calling cards
on your walls at night), and they only digest the soft tissues, so the waste
is larger and distinctly hairy or boney..

you can all sigh a collective "EW" now..

Uv(herpetolowannabe)
Diane - 04 Oct 2005 04:58 GMT
thank you for the lesson! the pewp is not bony, hairy, or otherwise
repulsive. i'm finding my north carolina nature lessons fascinating. we
can move on to talking about the amazing orbweavers that are all over
my house exterior anytime you like.

diane
 
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