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Robert J - 14 Sep 2005 04:29 GMT
I have done carpentry for most of my younger years. The result is terrible
back pain and aching joints. My knees and elbows in particular. I take 3
advil in AM with move free every morning and sometimes take 3 advil at night.
I hace also learned that I really shouldn't pick up anything heavier than 10-
15Pounds as that ussually gets me into a lot of pain the next day. I don't
like taking so much advil but it seems to be the only way I can manage. Are
there any other remedies that might be of some help? Bob
Jo Firey - 14 Sep 2005 05:42 GMT
>I have done carpentry for most of my younger years. The result is terrible
> back pain and aching joints. My knees and elbows in particular. I take 3
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> Are
> there any other remedies that might be of some help? Bob

You really need to talk to a doctor about what is causing your pain and how
to manage it.

It isn't wise to take excessive over the counter medications.

Jo
Harvey R. Stone - 14 Sep 2005 13:18 GMT
> You really need to talk to a doctor about what is causing your pain and
> how to manage it.
>
> It isn't wise to take excessive over the counter medications.
>
> Jo

  I agree with Jo.   There are over 170 different types of arthritis that a
Rheumatologist treats.   Why not find out exactly what the problem is and
treat that.
   Like you, Advil helps me a great deal to be able to continue to do
things without too much pain.  Before I saw an arthritis specialist, my
family doctor had me taking 3 -500mg Naprosyn a day and when I still had
shoulder pain,,,, he threw up his hands and sent me to a RD.  Naprosyn is
what is in Advil.   Being a carpenter is really hard work and hard on your
body.  With the air driven tools its better than it used to be but still
more than the average man can do for his whole life without really paying
for it.    Please stop making payments and see a RD.   It may be time to do
something else.
Harv
Robert J - 16 Sep 2005 04:09 GMT
Appreciate all the time you spent trying to motivate me. What did the RD do
for you Harv? I just don't see what he can do. By the way I am not working as
a carpenter any more. Your absolutely right . I couldn't do that for the rest
of my life. Bob

>> You really need to talk to a doctor about what is causing your pain and
>> how to manage it.
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>something else.
>Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 16 Sep 2005 14:51 GMT
> Appreciate all the time you spent trying to motivate me. What did the RD
> do
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> rest
> of my life. Bob

Hi Bob,,,  I have RA and have had it since I was 38 years old.   I am
now,,,65.    I have not spent one day in a hospital for myself.   No foot,
knee, ankle, wrist procedures.   I owe all of what I can still do to my RD
but I have been taking very strong medicine to control my arthritis since I
was 45 or 20 years.   When a joint like a shoulder or knee gets out of
control with swelling and/or pain, he is there with a steroid shot or change
in how or how much I take in my medicine.   People that continue to use
joints when (with work or play) they need to be rested with medical
attention are their own worst enemy and it leads to joint operations and
loss of function.
   I had to retire 10 years two soon because I could no longer do my job as
well as it needed to be done.   That was 10 years of my four kids out on
their own and doing well.  In other words, 10 years of earning and saving or
buying for my wife and myself at over $80,000/year.    Maybe,,, just maybe
those 7 years that I simply ate Naprosyn to keep going,,,,had been spent
finding out which DMARD controls my RA the best,, I could of worked the 10
years or more.
    It is true that if you have used up your body with your job,,,, what
you have lost can not come back.  You and I are not teenagers anymore.   We
need to try to save what we have left and use it as best we can.
   A good RD can tell you what you can do or not do anymore and what you
can do to save what you have left.   If it is too late for some joints or
what have you, getting a procedure done could extend the use of the joint
without falling back on stainless steel or ceramics.
Good luck with it all and a person needs to have good insurance to deal with
the cost of today's medicines and doctor costs      but        like my
wife,,, she is worth it.
Harv
Robert J - 16 Sep 2005 04:12 GMT
Thanks for the advice. My wife has been pushing that for years but I don't
see what they can do short of surgery. Bob

>>I have done carpentry for most of my younger years. The result is terrible
>> back pain and aching joints. My knees and elbows in particular. I take 3
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>
>Jo
Mary Z - 14 Sep 2005 14:41 GMT
>I don't
>like taking so much advil but it seems to be the only way I can manage. Are
>there any other remedies that might be of some help? Bob

You might try glucosamine chondroitin.  They are conducting research
on it and it seems to be fairly effective for some people.  You might
check out this site.   He started selling Avosoy which is too bad
because before his site had testing for Glucosamine and Chondroitin
without any sales pitch.   He still has some good resources.
http://www.drtheo.com/

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http://www.mzuschlag.com
Robert J - 16 Sep 2005 04:10 GMT
Thanks for the imput Mary. I take 2 move free with MSN every morning

>>I don't
>>like taking so much advil but it seems to be the only way I can manage. Are
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>Visit my website:
>http://www.mzuschlag.com
d'huit - 19 Sep 2005 17:51 GMT
hi bob,

knowing what kind/s of arthritis you have determines the best treatment for
it.  that's what a rheumatologist will help you with.  we, this group, can
"assume" you have oa, because of the type of job you had, but that
assumption might lead to joint destruction or joint erosion for you, if you
also have other types of arthritis (which is very common) in addition to oa.

when taking over-the-counter drugs, like advil (nsaids), especially
regularly and in higher than recommended dosages, you really need to be
monitored by a doctor/rheumatologist.  this is so that you aren't
unknowingly doing yourself harm, like permanent internal organ damage, which
these over-the-counter drugs are known to cause.

kate

>I have done carpentry for most of my younger years. The result is terrible
> back pain and aching joints. My knees and elbows in particular. I take 3
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> Are
> there any other remedies that might be of some help? Bob
 
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