Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / September 2005
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Adelle - 11 Sep 2005 03:44 GMT Hi!
Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy?
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Alice Faber - 11 Sep 2005 03:54 GMT > Hi! > > Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a > particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy? Do you have any reason at all to assume it's not spam?
A fair amount of my spam is clearly related to newsgroup posting, though less so than in the past. My filters are good, so I don't see most of it, unless I'm doing a quick scan for false positives. I suppose I might miss out on something useful, but I'm willing to take that risk.
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Sep 2005 04:12 GMT > > Hi! > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team." > --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball Mine was a direct to me response from my "Rituxan and WTH" post. Had my subject line and my original post. I suppose technically it *is* spam, since it's unsolicited stuff to sell me something, but it was "pleasant" enough spam (all spammers should take lessons from him).
Smokie Darling (Annie)
Ann - 11 Sep 2005 18:22 GMT I got a direct response to my post about liver and hepatitis. Since it looked like well disguised spam, I didn't reply.
Ann
MikesBrain - 11 Sep 2005 18:57 GMT 2005-09-11, Responding to Ann...
> I got a direct response to my post about liver and > hepatitis. Since it looked like well disguised spam, I > didn't reply. "Looked like well disguised spam"
Not that well then? ;)
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nikki - 15 Sep 2005 23:13 GMT Hi Alice,
sorry for late reply, spent 6 days with sister who's living in Spain. And needed that time to be away from problems with job too, it was an energybooster!
Anyway,
I have been getting mails about a vitamin C- site
so same as you,
Nikki
>>Hi! >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > it, unless I'm doing a quick scan for false positives. I suppose I might > miss out on something useful, but I'm willing to take that risk. Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Sep 2005 04:10 GMT > Hi! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Adelle > [please remove the obvious to respond] I got one. Wrote back thanking him for his concern, but since I'm limited in the amount of vitamin C that I'm allowed to take, and since I need to suppress my immune system, rather than "bulk" it up (which is what *got* me here)...
No response. Never heard of him before. He seemed nice enough I suppose.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
MikesBrain - 11 Sep 2005 10:30 GMT 2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)...
>> Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a >> particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy? > > I got one. Wrote back thanking him for his concern, And in doing so, validated your Email address.
Expect more spam. Thats how it works.
Other tricks...
"Email this page to a friend" (Send us your friend's Email for our spam-list)
"Click here to unsubscribe" (Confirm that this address exists, for our spam-list)
...and sending HMTL mail so your M$ software "sends out" for the tiny graphics hidden in it, therefore confirming not only your Email address, but other details about your system including just what software you have, which can be used to hijack your computer and use it as a zombie.
If you have a filter system, just dump anything suspicious into it. DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM! It only encourages them. ;\
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Sep 2005 15:09 GMT > 2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)... > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > * Mike's (curious) Brain @ http://tinyurl.com/4872c > - Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) Personally, I'm not worried about it. I rarely use this email account, but I do check it daily (it isn't used because I created it just for Google and the spam that entails). Considering the spam I get just from using Google, I won't notice his, but thanks for the information.
MikesBrain - 11 Sep 2005 16:44 GMT 2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)...
>> 2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)... >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Google, I won't notice his, but thanks for the > information. Hmmm... Checking daily isn't really "rarely using" it. As the stuff you DON'T want on your system can get in via Email, especially on a system as vunerable as WinDOHs, I'd still be taking whatever precautions are practical.
P.S. I hereby request my chocolate biscuit for not taking this opportunity to suggest you upgrade to a more securable operating system.
Hang on... Oh BUGGER! I just did! There goes my biscuit! Damn! 8(
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Sep 2005 18:10 GMT > 2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)... > > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Email, especially on a system as vunerable as WinDOHs, I'd > still be taking whatever precautions are practical. Okay, what I meant was that I don't "use" it. I check the account, but I don't read the emails unless I recognize a person. The reason "he" got answered (and read in the first place) was that he used "my" subject line from this group (probably just clicked on reply to author in the options field).
> P.S. > I hereby request my chocolate biscuit for not taking this > opportunity to suggest you upgrade to a more securable > operating system. Sorry, you'd have to speak with the Spousal Unit about that. I can use the computer, but I am not allowed to download anything (after "killing" my last computer by overloading it).
Okay, it wasn't dead, but it certainly didn't like either one of us after that. I no longer download much of anything.
> Hang on... Oh BUGGER! I just did! > There goes my biscuit! Damn! 8( [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > * Mike's (curious) Brain @ http://tinyurl.com/4872c > - Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) MikesBrain - 11 Sep 2005 18:56 GMT 2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)...
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>> >> If you have a filter system, just dump anything suspicious >> >> into it. DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM! It only encourages them. ;\ [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > group (probably just clicked on reply to author in the > options field). Not reading them does not mean that the content is not already on your computer. So, filtering at the point at which they come in, rather than leaving them to be accidentally read later, or to do whatever they can to your operating system, is drifting toward closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
Remember that your computer has to "read" them to know what they are and where they should be on it. By then you could have been "bugged".
This is why I make such a big deal about using plain-text Email and News proggies. They can't react to an instruction set, or a line of something designed to trip yet another security hole in OE. Similarly, html messages don't get the chance to download their little "extras" just by being stored on your system.
If you let things in through the back door, they might just let their friends in later while you're not looking. 8( If they can't reach the door handle, they can't do this.
:)
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spodosaurus - 11 Sep 2005 10:46 GMT >>Hi! >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I got one. Wrote back thanking him for his concern, but since I'm > limited in the amount of vitamin C Me too: the dreaded mineral we dare not mention combined with vitamin C increases cardiac toxicity for me with my levels of said mineral.
> that I'm allowed to take, and since > I need to suppress my immune system, rather than "bulk" it up (which is > what *got* me here)... Keep in mind that suppression, regulation, and maintaing normal function are not all the same thing. You can keep the immune system functioning normally despite having to suppress it due to its lack of self regulation resulting in autoimmune disease. Try saying that ten times fast :-)
> No response. Never heard of him before. He seemed nice enough I > suppose. > > Smokie Darling (Annie)
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Diane - 11 Sep 2005 04:23 GMT yes, i got one. gives me the creeps, frankly. feels invasive.
diane
MikesBrain - 11 Sep 2005 10:39 GMT 2005-09-11, Responding to Diane...
> yes, i got one. gives me the creeps, frankly. feels invasive. It is. The internet is full of invasive assaults on your computer. It is full of processes busy harvesting and compiling all kinds of info about you and everyone else.
Thats why putting personally identifying details online, even just once, is a bad thing. Your computer may also be giving away all kinds of info about you that you are not aware of.
As I've said before...
- Don't give out identity info - Use plain-text Email/NG software - Use an effective firewall - Do your intial browsing with something like Lynx to avoid your IE being exploited. (or anything other than IE!) You will never know how many times you have been scanned, or just how much information others you don't know about have on you. See the recent alt.med.fibromyalgia threads where many people found out just how easy it is for a weirdo to gather up info and use it for their own "amusement".
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Kelly Cobb - 11 Sep 2005 04:40 GMT > Hi! > > Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a > particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy? Yup, in response to my post about Rachel's VEEG. How use of that vitamin (and the article link about cancer) pertains to epilepsy, I have no idea. I did not respond, but was a bit creeped out.
Kelly C.
Newsgroup Spambuster - 11 Sep 2005 05:23 GMT Yep, I got one in response to my post about ulcerative colitis. This fella must be scanning the group and picking out specific posts.
Donna G
Squirrely - 11 Sep 2005 05:58 GMT Yep, I got one too to the thread I was talking about the pred and hip stuff.
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> Hi! > > Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a > particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy? vickie b. - 11 Sep 2005 07:51 GMT I got one. and I did not enter the vitamin thread. Just deleted it though!
Vickie B.
Nann Bell - 11 Sep 2005 23:13 GMT > Hi! > > Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a > particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy? Don't know! If I don't recognize the sender and the subject line doesn't blatantly tell me this is a legit email, I delate it without opening it. Best way to deal with spammers in my mind.
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DianeW - 12 Sep 2005 04:57 GMT Yes - I did in response to a particular recent post. I just blocked him and hopefully won't get anymore. DianeW
Mary Z - 12 Sep 2005 15:37 GMT >Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a >particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy? I received one as well. With the new google you can't see the full e-mail address unless you send a e-mail to the person, so he might be collecting addresses. --- MZ
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Adelle - 12 Sep 2005 16:03 GMT Thanks everyone. He's making a prodigious effort, given that many of us alter our addresses.
Adelle
Paul T. Holland - 12 Sep 2005 19:21 GMT if you can [or anyone else that has gotten one], send me a copy of the email with 'full' headers and i'll check it - and him - out for you.
paul
> Hi! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Adelle > [please remove the obvious to respond] Duckie - 12 Sep 2005 22:37 GMT Me and I hit report as spam. Hope he gets his. Duckie
> Hi! > > Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a > particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy?
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