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Adelle - 11 Sep 2005 03:44 GMT
Hi!

Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a
particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy?

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Adelle
[please remove the obvious to respond]

Alice Faber - 11 Sep 2005 03:54 GMT
> Hi!
>
> Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a
> particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy?

Do you have any reason at all to assume it's not spam?

A fair amount of my spam is clearly related to newsgroup posting, though
less so than in the past. My filters are good, so I don't see most of
it, unless I'm doing a quick scan for false positives. I suppose I might
miss out on something useful, but I'm willing to take that risk.

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AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
             --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Sep 2005 04:12 GMT
> > Hi!
> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
>               --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

Mine was a direct to me response from my "Rituxan and WTH" post.  Had
my subject line and my original post.  I suppose technically it *is*
spam, since it's unsolicited stuff to sell me something, but it was
"pleasant" enough spam (all spammers should take lessons from him).

Smokie Darling (Annie)
Ann - 11 Sep 2005 18:22 GMT
I got a direct response to my post about liver and hepatitis.  Since it
looked like  well disguised spam, I didn't reply.

Ann
MikesBrain - 11 Sep 2005 18:57 GMT
2005-09-11, Responding to Ann...

> I got a direct response to my post about liver and
> hepatitis.  Since it looked like well disguised spam, I
> didn't reply.

"Looked like well disguised spam"

Not that well then? ;)

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nikki - 15 Sep 2005 23:13 GMT
Hi Alice,

sorry for late reply, spent 6 days with sister who's living in Spain.
And needed that time to be away from problems with job too, it was an
energybooster!

Anyway,

I have been getting mails about a vitamin C- site

so same as you,

Nikki

>>Hi!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> it, unless I'm doing a quick scan for false positives. I suppose I might
> miss out on something useful, but I'm willing to take that risk.
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Sep 2005 04:10 GMT
> Hi!
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Adelle
> [please remove the obvious to respond]

I got one.  Wrote back thanking him for his concern, but since I'm
limited in the amount of vitamin C that I'm allowed to take, and since
I need to suppress my immune system, rather than "bulk" it up (which is
what *got* me here)...

No response.  Never heard of him before.  He seemed nice enough I
suppose.

Smokie Darling (Annie)
MikesBrain - 11 Sep 2005 10:30 GMT
2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)...

>> Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a
>> particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy?
>
> I got one.  Wrote back thanking him for his concern,

And in doing so, validated your Email address.

Expect more spam. Thats how it works.

Other tricks...

"Email this page to a friend"
(Send us your friend's Email for our spam-list)

"Click here to unsubscribe"
(Confirm that this address exists, for our spam-list)

...and sending HMTL mail so your M$ software "sends out" for
the tiny graphics hidden in it, therefore confirming not
only your Email address, but other details about your system
including just what software you have, which can be used to
hijack your computer and use it as a zombie.

If you have a filter system, just dump anything suspicious
into it. DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM! It only encourages them. ;\

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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Sep 2005 15:09 GMT
> 2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)...
>
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> * Mike's (curious) Brain  @ http://tinyurl.com/4872c
> - Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :)

Personally, I'm not worried about it.  I rarely use this email account,
but I do check it daily (it isn't used because I created it just for
Google and the spam that entails).  Considering the spam I get just
from using Google, I won't notice his, but thanks for the information.
MikesBrain - 11 Sep 2005 16:44 GMT
2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)...

>> 2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Google, I won't notice his, but thanks for the
> information.

Hmmm... Checking daily isn't really "rarely using" it. As
the stuff you DON'T want on your system can get in via
Email, especially on a system as vunerable as WinDOHs, I'd
still be taking whatever precautions are practical.

P.S.
I hereby request my chocolate biscuit for not taking this
opportunity to suggest you upgrade to a more securable
operating system.

Hang on... Oh BUGGER! I just did!
There goes my biscuit! Damn! 8(

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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Sep 2005 18:10 GMT
> 2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)...
> >
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> Email, especially on a system as vunerable as WinDOHs, I'd
> still be taking whatever precautions are practical.

Okay, what I meant was that I don't "use" it.  I check the account, but
I don't read the emails unless I recognize a person.  The reason "he"
got answered (and read in the first place) was that he used "my"
subject line from this group (probably just clicked on reply to author
in the options field).

> P.S.
> I hereby request my chocolate biscuit for not taking this
> opportunity to suggest you upgrade to a more securable
> operating system.

Sorry, you'd have to speak with the Spousal Unit about that.  I can use
the computer, but I am not allowed to download anything (after
"killing" my last computer by overloading it).

Okay, it wasn't dead, but it certainly didn't like either one of us
after that.  I no longer download much of anything.

> Hang on... Oh BUGGER! I just did!
> There goes my biscuit! Damn! 8(
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> * Mike's (curious) Brain  @ http://tinyurl.com/4872c
> - Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :)
MikesBrain - 11 Sep 2005 18:56 GMT
2005-09-11, Responding to Smokie Darling (Annie)...

[...]
>> >> If you have a filter system, just dump anything suspicious
>> >> into it. DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM! It only encourages them. ;\
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> group (probably just clicked on reply to author in the
> options field).

Not reading them does not mean that the content is not
already on your computer. So, filtering at the point at
which they come in, rather than leaving them to be
accidentally read later, or to do whatever they can to your
operating system, is drifting toward closing the stable door
after the horse has bolted.

Remember that your computer has to "read" them to know what
they are and where they should be on it. By then you could
have been "bugged".

This is why I make such a big deal about using plain-text
Email and News proggies. They can't react to an instruction
set, or a line of something designed to trip yet another
security hole in OE. Similarly, html messages don't get the
chance to download their little "extras" just by being
stored on your system.

If you let things in through the back door, they might just
let their friends in later while you're not looking. 8(
If they can't reach the door handle, they can't do this.

:)

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spodosaurus - 11 Sep 2005 10:46 GMT
>>Hi!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I got one.  Wrote back thanking him for his concern, but since I'm
> limited in the amount of vitamin C

Me too: the dreaded mineral we dare not mention combined with vitamin C
increases cardiac toxicity for me with my levels of said mineral.

> that I'm allowed to take, and since
> I need to suppress my immune system, rather than "bulk" it up (which is
> what *got* me here)...

Keep in mind that suppression, regulation, and maintaing normal function
are not all the same thing. You can keep the immune system functioning
normally despite having to suppress it due to its lack of self
regulation resulting in autoimmune disease. Try saying that ten times
fast :-)

> No response.  Never heard of him before.  He seemed nice enough I
> suppose.
>
> Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Diane - 11 Sep 2005 04:23 GMT
yes, i got one. gives me the creeps, frankly. feels invasive.

diane
MikesBrain - 11 Sep 2005 10:39 GMT
2005-09-11, Responding to Diane...

> yes, i got one. gives me the creeps, frankly. feels invasive.

It is. The internet is full of invasive assaults on your
computer. It is full of processes busy harvesting and
compiling all kinds of info about you and everyone else.

Thats why putting personally identifying details online,
even just once, is a bad thing. Your computer may also be
giving away all kinds of info about you that you are not
aware of.

As I've said before...

- Don't give out identity info
- Use plain-text Email/NG software
- Use an effective firewall
- Do your intial browsing with something like Lynx
 to avoid your IE being exploited. (or anything other than IE!)
 
You will never know how many times you have been scanned, or
just how much information others you don't know about have
on you. See the recent alt.med.fibromyalgia threads where
many people found out just how easy it is for a weirdo to
gather up info and use it for their own "amusement".

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Kelly Cobb - 11 Sep 2005 04:40 GMT
> Hi!
>
> Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a
> particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy?

Yup, in response to my post about Rachel's VEEG. How use of that vitamin
(and the article link about cancer) pertains to epilepsy, I have no idea. I
did not respond, but was a bit creeped out.

Kelly C.
Newsgroup Spambuster - 11 Sep 2005 05:23 GMT
Yep, I got one in response to my post about ulcerative colitis.   This
fella must be scanning the group and picking out specific posts.

Donna G
Squirrely - 11 Sep 2005 05:58 GMT
Yep, I got one too to the thread I was talking about the pred and hip stuff.

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> Hi!
>
> Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a
> particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy?
vickie b. - 11 Sep 2005 07:51 GMT
I got one.  and I did not enter the vitamin thread.  Just deleted it
though!

Vickie B.
Nann Bell - 11 Sep 2005 23:13 GMT
> Hi!
>
> Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a
> particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy?

Don't know!  If I don't recognize the sender and the subject line doesn't
blatantly tell me this is a legit email, I delate it without opening it.  
Best way to deal with spammers in my mind.

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DianeW - 12 Sep 2005 04:57 GMT
Yes - I did in response to a particular recent post. I just blocked him
and hopefully won't get anymore. DianeW
Mary Z - 12 Sep 2005 15:37 GMT
>Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a
>particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy?

I received one as well.  With the new google you can't see the full
e-mail address unless you send a e-mail to the person, so he might be
collecting addresses.  --- MZ

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http://www.mzuschlag.com
Adelle - 12 Sep 2005 16:03 GMT
Thanks everyone. He's making a prodigious effort, given that many of us
alter our addresses.

Adelle
Paul T. Holland - 12 Sep 2005 19:21 GMT
if you can [or anyone else that has gotten one], send me a copy of the
email with 'full' headers and i'll check it - and him - out for you.

paul

> Hi!
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> Adelle
> [please remove the obvious to respond]
Duckie - 12 Sep 2005 22:37 GMT
Me and I hit report as spam. Hope he gets his.
Duckie

> Hi!
>
> Anyone else getting emails at home w/referrals to a website about a
> particular vitamin? Anyone know this guy?

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