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Iron concentrations in rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis.

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ironjustice@aol.com - 24 Aug 2005 11:54 GMT
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Fe/iron concentrations were significantly higher
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Synovial fluid and plasma selenium, copper, zinc, and iron
concentrations in patients with rheumatoid arthritis and
osteoarthritis.
Yazar M, Sarban S, Kocyigit A, Isikan UE
Biol Trace Elem Res. 2005 Aug ; 106(2): 123-32

In recent years, a great number of studies have investigated the
possible role of trace elements in the etiology and pathogenesis of
rheumatoid arthritis (RA) and osteoartritis (OA). We studied synovial
fluid and plasma concentrations of selenium (Se), zinc (Zn), copper
(Cu), and iron (Fe) in patients with RA and OA and compared them with
sex- and age-matched healthy subjects. Plasma albumin levels were
measured as an index of nutritional status. Plasma Se, Cu, and Zn
concentrations were determined by atomic absorption spectrophotometry
and Fe concentrations were determined by the colorimetric method.
Although plasma and synovial fluid Se concentration were found to be
significantly lower (p < 0.05, and p < 0.05, respectively), Cu
concentrations were significantly higher in patients with RA than those
of healthy subjects and OA (p < 0.05 and p < 0.05, respectively). There
were no significant differences in plasma and synovial fluid Zn
concentrations and albumin levels among three groups (p > 0.05). On the
other hand, synovial fluid Cu and Fe concentrations were significantly
higher in patients with OA than those of healthy subjects (p < 0.05).
There was a significantly positive correlation between synovial fluid
Se-Cu values and Zn-Fe values in patients with RA. Our results showed
that synovial fluid and plasma trace element concentrations, excluding
Zn, change in inflammatory RA, but not in OA. These alterations in
trace element concentrations in inflammatory RA might be a result of
the changes of the immunoregulatory cytokines.

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spodosaurus - 24 Aug 2005 12:03 GMT
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Hey Tom, before you start littering your response with excessive
punctuation in your attempt to take on the persona of your ficitonal
idol Capt. James T. Kirk, you might want to get up to speed on the
difference between correlation and causation. You also might want to
understand a bit about what happens to RBCs in chronic inflamation. The
two are interrelated. By the way, let us all know when you advance your
education beyond tenth grade. We'll throw you a party...or something :-)

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Mortimer Schnerd, RN - 24 Aug 2005 12:07 GMT
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> Ari
ironjustice@aol.com - 25 Aug 2005 06:06 GMT
>>correlation and causation<<

You think you can teach .. me .. something .. eh ..

Heh .. heh ..

I said lower the iron levels ..

Are ya having your iron levels lowered  .. ?

Yes you are ..

How .. come .. ?

Because your doctor told ya to ..

BUT .. you .. TELL everyone ELSE .. not .. to ..

So .. you sort of believe CONTRARY to what your doctor .. believes ..

But it seems your doctor and I .. agree ..

Yes that IS what it seems ..

Heh .. heh ..

Must pss you off to no end ..

Eh ..

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spodosaurus - 25 Aug 2005 14:24 GMT
>>>correlation and causation<<
>
> You think you can teach .. me .. something .. eh ..

No, I don't, you're too much of a fucktard. Sorry to break it to you.
I'm sure you'll learn to live with it like any other person with a
disability. All the best.

> Heh .. heh ..
>
> I said lower the iron levels ..

Where did you say that? Oh wait, you didn't! You just copy and pasted
something you didn't understand and then started immitating Capt. Kirk
and using excessive punctuation. How droll!

>  
> BUT .. you .. TELL everyone ELSE .. not .. to ..

Really? Where did I tell people with normal blood iron levels to do
anything about their normal levels? Oh wait, I said no such thing, it
was those voices in your head that compell you to not bathe or brush
your teeth and ruin generic keyboard after generic keyboard with your
compulsive masturbating. Sorry, my mistake.

> Who lusts ya.
> Timmah!
>
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mr.bones@att.net - 27 Aug 2005 06:12 GMT
> You think you can teach .. me .. something .. eh ..
>
> Heh .. heh ..

Teaching requires that the student (or pupil) be able to receive and
understand the instruction. You are not; esp. since you read with your
keyboard and listen with your mouth.

You also have almost as much common sense as a rock.

I don't wish you ill; I just wish that you would leave thinking to
people who are actually capable of it; and leave the giving of medical
advice to people who truly care about the health and well-being of
others and not about "putting their names up in lights".
MikesBrain - 27 Aug 2005 10:32 GMT
2005-08-27, Responding to mr.bones@att.net...

>> You think you can teach .. me .. something .. eh ..
>>
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> understand the instruction. You are not; esp. since you read with your
> keyboard and listen with your mouth.

http://tinyurl.com/4thvq

And please nuke the crossposting as this is what I.Ron-bot
is laughing about ATM. (Mine intentional to deliver the URL)

Ta v-much.

Tommy, go take your meds. You're overdue.

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