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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / August 2005Collagen
Ok....first of all just wanted to let you know that I don't intend this email to be spam but I'll leave that up to you. I've suffered with rheumatoid arthritis since Feb/2001 so I know the kind of pain most of you have gone through. I've taken methotrexate, plaquenil, hydroxychloroquin, Celebrex, VIOXX, naproxen, Bextra, and Mobic among others. I've sat in the rheumatologist office for about 2 1/2 hours every 6 weeks taking the infusions of Remicade.....Remicade helped, but only lasted for 2 weeks so I suffered the next 4 weeks until my next treatment (my insurance only allowed 8 treatments per year)....Finally in November of 2003, while in the doctor's waiting room I read a brochure on Bextra which I asked my doctor to let me try out. After about 2 days, I felt this sudden relief from most of my joint pains and I thanked God for this "miracle drug". I had been on it since then .....until......as most of us who depended on it know that Bextra was taken off the market earlier this year ..... So I was back to square 1. My doctor recommended Mobic which I took and noticed it wasn't helping anywhere as much as Bextra....To make a long story short, I ran across the collagen product while dealing with a Web Design venture (which is what I do). This product was introduced as available for marketing.....I decided to try it out myself since I had the joint pains this product was claiming to relieve....I was skeptical but desperate. I took it for the first 10 days along with Mobic. After the tenth day, I stopped taking Mobic and have taken only a 5 mg pill of Mobic since then when I over exerted myself. I've now been on the collagen for just over 2 months with little or no pain and have not taken any other pain medication for over 1 1/2 months. I definitely feel it needs to be shared with others suffering from these pains. This is not the watered down (diluted) collagen found in cosmetics, this is 100% pure collagen. I've shared it with others locally and hear it's helping them so thought this group would want to know about it. It may take longer on some and others it may help right away. What Type II collagen does is replenish the cartilage which none of the other prescribed drugs do (at least none that I took). It's also improves fine lines and wrinkles for those of you that care about that. I've since created a website for selling it knowing the joint pains many of you go through each day, but I won't mention the website address unless I hear that most of you want to hear about it. The cost is $34.95 (which is under the recommended price)with free shipping in the US. It comes in a bottle of 100 capsules with 3 capsules taken each night. Again, my intention is not to take advantage of any of you with anything that doesn't work. I'll wait and hear your thoughts/comments. You can either reply to me or to the group. Thanks and God bless, Jess Good grief - > Ok....first of all just wanted to let you know that I don't intend this > email to be spam but I'll leave that up to you. [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > Thanks and God bless, > Jess >> Again, my intention is not to take advantage of any of you with >> anything that doesn't work. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Thanks and God bless, >> Jess Jess, You are not going to take advantage of me in anything in this life and it does not matter if it works or not. If you come to gain profit in money from the people here,,,,,,, it makes you a spammer,,,, a salesman and that is not allowed in this newsgroup. Harv Harv, I'm not trying to take advantage of anyone. I've suffered with RA and know the pains that come along with it. For anyone that is suffering from RA or OA, please check with your doctors and ask about type II collagen. It worked for me and my rheumatoid arthritis. And I think it can work for you. Jess Harv, I've been thinking about what you said and it just baffles me that people like you would rather complain and suffer than try something that can actually relieve your pain. I used to not be able to even pick up the tailgate of my truck without going through so much pain. Now, I can enjoy my grandson's, pick them up, and play with them. It just doesn't make sense......sorry everyone else......just had to get this off my chest! Jess > Harv, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jess Are you really that dumb? Pretty near all of us on the group would be included in the "people like you" that you would lump Harv in with. Yes we are in pain, yes we would like to not be in pain. No we aren't foolish enough to believe that the cure for all kinds of arthritis is available but is lurking out there in your website for only $34.95. I thought you promised to go away if the majority didn't show an interest in your nonsense. They didn't so go away already. Jo > No we aren't foolish >enough to believe that the cure for all kinds of arthritis is available but >is lurking out there in your website for only $34.95. Well said Jo. I would add that some of us are doing very well on our medications and are not in pain. Remission is great thanks to Remicade. Also Jes your story doesn't ring true. Bextra was a miracle cure? Remicade is a DMARD, Bextra is not I can't believe your Dr didn't have you on an anti-inflammatory before bextra. An anti-iflammatory would never be a substitute for a DMARD. I know about collagen II they are experimenting with it, but only for early RA, you are playing a dangerous game suggesting people can get off their meds by using a dietary supplement. No thanks don't want the $34.95 internet cure! -- MZ Visit my website: http://www.mzuschlag.com Mary, Apparently you don't believe I have RA and have had it since 2001. I never said people should get off of their meds by using something like type II collagen. That's their choice. All I know is that I haven't taken any of my meds for almost 2 months now and have had relief from pain that I hadn't had in almost 5 years of suffering with RA. Also, as I mentioned before, I took Naproxen, methotrexate, plaquenil, VIOXX, Celebrex, BEXTRA, and Mobic AMONG OTHERS. (By the way (if you weren't aware), BEXTRA, CELEBREX, VIOXX, and MOBIC are COX-2 inhibitors.) I was on Remicade for about a year and a half and just got tired of going in every six weeks for 2 weeks of pain relief each time. At least now, I'm not worrying about the side effects and high costs of those drugs. (Paid $66 on my last prescription of a 30 day supply of Mobic with insurance involved). My intention was to spread the word to others who suffer like I did. Yes, I could profit from this, but I'm not about to give anyone a bunch of lies if this product hadn't helped me like it has. My final word.....it's been a pleasure. I am going to put an important spin on this. Sometimes it takes awhile for a med to go out of the system. Going off remicade for 2 months it probably hasn't completely gone out of the system and residuals are working. However joint damage is still occurring. Also sometimes the disease wanes and peaks (not with me unfortunately). The temptation is to stop dmards. Unfortunately again damage can occur because you still have the disease. If you can afford to spend this money and it does not hurt you in any way go for it. Remember though, the disease process is still there and damage could be happening to your joints, this person although well meaning and I don't think vicious is not a practicing doctor. She does not know any interactions with other meds you might be taking. I would only take it if I personally had a lawyer draw up a document saying the company would guarantee it was safe for me to take, the product was pure and that the person could be sued if medical advice (which this is) was given. Seems to me this is prescribing a med. I love to hear about a product helping - goodness knows there are some holistic products out there that do help. Milk thistle, gls etc. come to mind. However, without proper research I personally would not want to risk my joints. Finger joints, elbow joints, shoulder joints and toe joints are not easily fixed as some of us know. Kelly >Ok....first of all just wanted to let you know that I don't intend this >email to be spam but I'll leave that up to you. It's spam! Visit my website: http://www.mzuschlag.com Jess, I have scoliosis and multiple back surgery. I am uneven in many places. Lately my the stuff that connects the ribs with the breastbone is going haywire, causing many problems. I think that stuff is cartilage, so do you think those pills could help keep the cartilage I have. I would be grateful just for that. Mindy > Jess, I have scoliosis and multiple back surgery. I am uneven in many > places. Lately my the stuff that connects the ribs with the breastbone > is going haywire, causing many problems. I think that stuff is > cartilage, so do you think those pills could help keep the cartilage I > have. I would be grateful just for that. > Mindy Hi Mindy, I hope you talk to your doctor about your ribs. I have had two series of injections with steroid to help with pain caused by inflamed cartilage that really helped or put out the fire for awhile. Harv > > Jess, I have scoliosis and multiple back surgery. I am uneven in many > > places. Lately my the stuff that connects the ribs with the breastbone [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > cartilage that really helped or put out the fire for awhile. > Harv Hello Mindy, Here is one place where I agree with Harv :) .... I would definitely talk to your doctor first, especially to make sure it is cartilage that you think it might be......and even ask him about the Type II collagen. Type II collagen is known to replenish the cartilage since as we get older our body's ability to replenish it diminishes. Our joints need that cartilage to prevent the bone on bone effect. I'd be happy to provide you a free bottle of this product, but talk to your doctor first. Then email me directly if you want to give it a try..... Take care
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