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Diane - 21 Aug 2005 17:20 GMT well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will pick up lots of dog hair from carpeting and that has easy to use attachments. it's been so long since i've bought a vacuum, i don't know what else to look for.
diane, mom to shedding shelties
Carole - 21 Aug 2005 18:46 GMT > well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge > households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > diane, mom to shedding shelties I have an Oreck and it picks up everything. But you'll probably want to see if they have a self propelled one. When I got mine, my health was great. Now that I have CHF, I can't push it anymore and just use the small one that came with it.
Carole
Gwen Love - 21 Aug 2005 19:49 GMT Carole, I'm the same with my Oreck. It cleans well but I can't push and pull it-----------sure wish it was self propelled. My back just kills me when I try to use it. My son & DIL have a Rainbow. It is expensive but it is wonderful. No dust to affect allergies and it really cleans. Gwen
> > well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge > > households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Carole Carole - 21 Aug 2005 20:38 GMT > Carole, I'm the same with my Oreck. It cleans well but I can't push and > pull it-----------sure wish it was self propelled. My back just kills me > when I try to use it. Yup, Gwen, that's my problem too, only with CHF I get VERY out of breath trying to push and pull it. Luckily, I live alone and don't make too much of a mess, so the little one I got with it is working fine for me :)
Carole
DianeW - 22 Aug 2005 02:01 GMT I grew up with Rainbow and then inherited my Mom's. Had the motor reconditioned last year and for a 25 or so year old vacume, it's doing remarkably well. Instead of bags it uses water which you change often during cleaning. (2-3 times for a house of 2500 sq feet. You can vacume the dust off furniture and such with a hand attachment. They are very expensive, but very worth it. They also take trade ins and sell them reconditioned. Just look up Rainbow in the yellow pages in your area. They are direct sale only I guess unless you go to their repair shop and tell them you want a recon one. You really need to see it in person to get all it does. I can remember my Mom using it to defrost her fridge! DianeW
RoseB - 22 Aug 2005 03:55 GMT >I grew up with Rainbow and then inherited my Mom's. I have one and it does clean very well. The fact that there are no bags is a plus. Sometimes though for a quick clean up I wish that i also had something smaller as this can feel like a bit of a nuisance to get out all the parts and fill the water. That can be especially difficult on days when hands are not cooperative, or arms are sore.
It is great with pets though. If there is an accident, the fact that it is a wet vac means that you can spray an area and then use the Rainbow to get some of the water up. You can also use it for jobs like defrosting.
Mine is now about 25 years old too. Both my sister and my aunt had one, so it came highly recommended. Rose @}>->-- Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB
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RoseB - 21 Aug 2005 19:51 GMT it's been so long since i've bought a vacuum, i don't know
>what else to look for. > >diane, mom to shedding shelties Would a built-in suit your needs? My sister recently got a built-in vac and it has made life much easier. Their's is also a multipet household. Because of her lund damage and so on she was not able to vacccum using a conventional system. The built in is light since you only have to worry about the hose.
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JA - 22 Aug 2005 00:07 GMT > well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge > households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > diane, mom to shedding shelties Our Dyson works well and one of the models has a special attachment for pet hair. Amazon often has reconditioned Dysons, so you can avoid the ridiculous prices on the new ones.
OTOH, our Roomba is much cuter. Roomba may not vacuum as well as the Dyson, but he does it all on his own--and even knows enough to head to his charging station when the battery needs to be recharged. I can hardly wait until his little sibling Scooba goes on sale. Scooba will vacuum and then wash, rinse, and dry vinyl (or other washable) floors.
Nicole H - 22 Aug 2005 01:52 GMT I have a kirby and love it! It pulls/pushes itself.... I paid 800$ (I haggled like you wouldn't believe)
The Dyson Animal is supposed to be good but I don't know if it propels itself.
> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge > households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > diane, mom to shedding shelties Harvey R. Stone - 22 Aug 2005 02:24 GMT >I have a kirby and love it! It pulls/pushes itself.... I paid 800$ (I >haggled like you wouldn't believe) > > The Dyson Animal is supposed to be good but I don't know if it propels > itself. Hi Nicole,,, Boy,,,, reading that sure does bring back memories. I wish I had haggled with the full set I bought my wife but water under the bridge as they say. My wife loved it too but I just could not get her to pick up a little before she used it. I know that I had 3-4 propellers put in that thing. Zinggg up a quarter or something would go and brake off a blade or two. So it goes. Harv
Diane - 22 Aug 2005 02:59 GMT john's too vacs are ancient kirbys. and i do mean ancient! i could no more change those attachments than fly. and diane w, the thought of having to deal with water in order to vacuum is not pleasant! i'm looking for simplicity, but also a good price. i just used my stepdaughters eureka upright with hepa filter and it cleaned like a dream, had easy to use attachments, but pushing it across the floor just about did in my wrists. i'll keep hunting.
diane
DianeW - 22 Aug 2005 03:57 GMT Dealing with filling up the water in the Rainbow is a pain I agree. I always hated doing it when I was a kid. And my husband complains about it too but it cleans better than anything an there is no residual dirt in the air cause it all gets sucked into water. It's definately unique. I ask him if he wanted to get a new one and he said yes, a new Rainbow! LOL Good luck with the search. DianeW
Nann Bell - 22 Aug 2005 15:20 GMT consider getting a cannister if the uprights are bothering your wrists that much. My mom has one of the fancy Kenmores that really cleans the carpet well, though I'll admit there have been no shelties in her house - just a hairy me and my sisters cat ;)
I have an older, simpler Kenmore cannister that also works surprisingly well, speaking as a human who sheds much hair. My mom and I both find the cannisters easier to use than uprights.
And consider buying one for each level so you don't have to lug it up and down. I'm still kicking myself for not buying the Kenmore cannister I saw in a thrift store for $5 last Easter to keep in the basement.......
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> john's too vacs are ancient kirbys. and i do mean ancient! i could no > more change those attachments than fly. and diane w, the thought of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > diane Alice Faber - 22 Aug 2005 16:17 GMT > consider getting a cannister if the uprights are bothering your wrists that > much. My mom has one of the fancy Kenmores that really cleans the carpet [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > down. I'm still kicking myself for not buying the Kenmore cannister I saw in > a thrift store for $5 last Easter to keep in the basement....... Absolutely.
I bought a self-propelled Hoover upright a few years ago. It's a bit heavy, and turning it can be a problem, but it's still easier to manipulate than my non-self-propelled Hoover. That one still works fine, so I have it downstairs, where I have to vacuum far less often (finished basement). That leaves a problem with the stairs. But I wear bifocals, and it's hard to focus on the stairs, so I just don't see how much they need vacuuming (or not).
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Nicole H - 22 Aug 2005 22:31 GMT the one i have has a separate storage spot for things like quarters, etc... it's great. I've had it for 9-10 yrs and have only changed the bag and the belt.
My friend has the one right below mine and it doesn't propel itself... there's no way I could use that one.
Oh, btw, the bags have micron filtration- it doesn't let anything out- or so they say. I have the G5.... it has a shampoo-er and several attachments.... the one downside is if you have stairs... it is very heavy.
>>I have a kirby and love it! It pulls/pushes itself.... I paid 800$ (I >>haggled like you wouldn't believe) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and brake off a blade or two. So it goes. > Harv Nann Bell - 23 Aug 2005 15:15 GMT BTW, Consumer Reports recommends for self propelled uprights: Hoover WindTunnel Self Propelled Ultra U6439-900 $240 WindTunnel Self Propelled Ultra U6436-900 $300 WindTunnel Self Propelled Ultra U6437-900 $300
for non-self propelled uprights: Eureka Boss Smart Vac Ultra 4870 $135
I'd be happy to print out all of their ratings and recommendations and snail mail them to you, if you'd like or you can look them up at your library. Copying them into email just doesn't work well.
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Duckie - 24 Aug 2005 01:06 GMT What do they have for canisters? Duckie
> BTW, Consumer Reports recommends for self propelled uprights: > Hoover WindTunnel Self Propelled Ultra U6439-900 $240 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > mail them to you, if you'd like or you can look them up at your library. > Copying them into email just doesn't work well.
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Nann Bell - 24 Aug 2005 05:55 GMT > What do they have for canisters? > Duckie non-committal at the moment:
"Nearly any canister vacuum can handle bare floors. The best we test typically offer impressive carpet cleaning and maintain airflow through the hose for use with tools.
Previous CR Quick Picks from Sears' Kenmore brand and others have also blended high performance and convenience with relatively low prices; $300 to $350 is typical for our highest-value canister selections.
While our Ratings still include many fine canister vacs, most of our previous Quick Picks have been discontinued and replaced with successor models. We're currently testing these and other canisters, and will have updated Ratings and Quick Picks this fall.
Can't wait? The $150 GE (Wal-Mart) 106766 is an attractive choice for its low price and fine performance, though you may have to change its bag relatively often, based on our airflow tests. Also consider the Sanyo SC-X1000P if you're willing to live with more noise or the high-priced Dyson DC11 Full Gear if much of your cleaning involves tools."
(I do love having access to an online CR subscription!)
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Adelle - 22 Aug 2005 06:42 GMT Hi!
I have a Sears with a HEPA filter. I like it. It works well enough. Still get a smell of somewhat warm dusty air. But the powerhead attachment is great on dog/cat hair.
It's a canister vac, so you are not pushing around the entire weight. But this powerhead is heavier than my old Sears one. Must be a tradeoff.
As for changing attachments, I can still press down the little button which secures most of the pieces when attached to the hose. The powerhead has a small lever you have to step on to detach. Can't do it barefoot. It was about $420.00 when I got it a few years ago.
Adelle
> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge > households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > diane, mom to shedding shelties Diane - 24 Aug 2005 13:20 GMT hi all, thanks for all the recommendations. nann, thanks for the CR reviews. i do have a canister, an electrolux. it's 20 years old and still works well, however i find the canister a pain, especially attaching the attachments and lugging the thing around. i recently used my stepdaughter's eureka boss which was so easy in terms of having the attachments right there on board and being able to flip a switch on top to use them. it was refreshing to use after lugging around that canister and hose with powerhead. however it was very heavy. i guess it's all a trade-off. i'll have a housekeeper every two weeks, but with two dogs and a lot of carpet (my old house had very little), i'll need to do some in between vacuuming in a big way.
thanks again, diane
Newsgroup Spambuster - 27 Aug 2005 07:52 GMT Diane, here is my 2¢ for what it is worth and a bit late!
Go to a vacuume store where they will let you actually plug in and try several varieties. You'd be surprised at how much you can tell by running the vacuume for just a few minutes, and they can also tell you which vacuumes are self propelled, which ones have motor protection so you don't burn the motor out if you suck up a screw or some other little thing that you didn't see. They often will also do some free maintenance if you end up buying from them.
You may also want to do a search on a new vacuume I just saw advertised on the HGTV channel. I think if was called an airider and it is a canister style vac that hovers on air so is easily manuevered around. Sounded pretty interesting, but don't know how heavy they might be to haul up and down stairs when the vacuume is off and can't do its floating on air/hovering bit.
Good luck to you and John!
Donna G
Jo Firey - 27 Aug 2005 16:51 GMT > well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge > households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > diane, mom to shedding shelties Many at the cat anecdotes group recommend the Hoover wind tunnel. Quite a few of us bought them at the same time and all liked them. If I had the money and several stories in the house I'd tend to look for one self propelled for the main floor and one for any other floor. Self propelled is a tough trade off. They are always so much heavier. I did see a Hoover wind tunnel at target a few days ago that had a special attachment for pet hair on furniture.
Jo
Aim - 29 Aug 2005 16:14 GMT I know I'm late to the party, but...
I had a really nice wind tunnel, AND a higher-end Dirt Devil. Both were the HEPA variety self-propelled and all that jazz. Tish vacuums daily, sometimes twice a day, due to our having four little furry beasts running around with litter in their pockets and throwing handfuls of it like confetti wherever they go. They also pull great chunks of fur out of their hides and leave it around the house as offerings to Bast. I'd had my vacuums for about a year, and Tish killed them in 6 months of daily fur-gathering. They completely died. Animal fur is another deal than anything else.
We seriously shopped for months, and eventually went to Sears and shelled out $500 for the second-to-highest quality Dyson. Tish had vacuumed immediately before we left, and then once again when we came home with the old vacuum, as we wanted to do a test. She turned the Dyson on and then realized it had a piece of tape on it still, so she bent down and spent 45 seconds or so picking that off it. In that time it was on, and sitting still in one spot on the floor. That canister filled halfway with cat fur and crud it sucked out of that section of floor. It was horrifying and disgusting. We'd shampooed our carpets with a power shampooer that we rented only 3-4 weeks before, and one pass with the Dyson got them cleaner.
I was NOT thrilled about spending $500 on a damned vacuum. After I saw what it does, I am convinced. And the filter never needs changing. You clean it out. Also it's got the ability to dry-clean your carpets. And it's got attachments that periscope up to the ceiling and do those too, and easily. They're light and easy. Emptying it is gimp-friendly. I can use the thing. It's light and comfortable to push. I'm totally convinced. Completely sold. In fact, when we buy a house, if it has a downstairs, I've already decided and told Tish we're buying a second one so we have one for each floor rather than having to carry up and down.
The price no longer mattered. This thing will last. And never buying filters or bags again makes me happy. Not only that but there's no dut exposure when you empty it like the other bagless ones.
It simply rocks.
If you were closer you could come try ours. Since you're not, I'd say go to Sears and try theirs, or to a specialty Dyson dealer to play with them. You'll be in love.
Aim
> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge > households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > diane, mom to shedding shelties Aim - 29 Aug 2005 16:20 GMT I know I'm late to the party, but...
I had a really nice wind tunnel, AND a higher-end Dirt Devil. Both were the HEPA variety self-propelled and all that jazz. Tish vacuums daily, sometimes twice a day, due to our having four little furry beasts running around with litter in their pockets and throwing handfuls of it like confetti wherever they go. They also pull great chunks of fur out of their hides and leave it around the house as offerings to Bast. I'd had my vacuums for about a year, and Tish killed them in 6 months of daily fur-gathering. They completely died. Animal fur is another deal than anything else.
We seriously shopped for months, and eventually went to Sears and shelled out $500 for the second-to-highest quality Dyson. Tish had vacuumed immediately before we left, and then once again when we came home with the old vacuum, as we wanted to do a test. She turned the Dyson on and then realized it had a piece of tape on it still, so she bent down and spent 45 seconds or so picking that off it. In that time it was on, and sitting still in one spot on the floor. That canister filled halfway with cat fur and crud it sucked out of that section of floor. It was horrifying and disgusting. We'd shampooed our carpets with a power shampooer that we rented only 3-4 weeks before, and one pass with the Dyson got them cleaner.
I was NOT thrilled about spending $500 on a damned vacuum. After I saw what it does, I am convinced. And the filter never needs changing. You clean it out. Also it's got the ability to dry-clean your carpets. And it's got attachments that periscope up to the ceiling and do those too, and easily. They're light and easy. Emptying it is gimp-friendly. I can use the thing. It's light and comfortable to push. I'm totally convinced. Completely sold. In fact, when we buy a house, if it has a downstairs, I've already decided and told Tish we're buying a second one so we have one for each floor rather than having to carry up and down.
The price no longer mattered. This thing will last. And never buying filters or bags again makes me happy. Not only that but there's no dut exposure when you empty it like the other bagless ones.
It simply rocks.
If you were closer you could come try ours. Since you're not, I'd say go to Sears and try theirs, or to a specialty Dyson dealer to play with them. You'll be in love.
Aim
> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge > households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > diane, mom to shedding shelties Diane - 30 Aug 2005 06:08 GMT good to hear from you, aim. you found a prize in tish! i'd love a partner who loved to vacuum. well, i think i'm getting a hoover self-propelled wind tunnel, due to lower price (than dyson etc), the self propelled feature, the pet hair feature and the latest consumer report review. plus the fact that i have so many other things to buy for this house. the dog hair on the carpet is totally grossing me out so the sooner i get it, the better!
diane
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