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Diane - 21 Aug 2005 17:20 GMT
well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge
households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will
pick up lots of dog hair from carpeting and that has easy to use
attachments. it's been so long since i've bought a vacuum, i don't know
what else to look for.

diane, mom to shedding shelties
Carole - 21 Aug 2005 18:46 GMT
> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge
> households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will
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>
> diane, mom to shedding shelties

I have an Oreck and it picks up everything. But you'll probably want to
see if they have a self propelled one. When I got mine, my health was
great. Now that I have CHF, I can't push it anymore and just use the
small one that came with it.

Carole
Gwen Love - 21 Aug 2005 19:49 GMT
Carole, I'm the same with my Oreck.  It cleans well but I can't push and
pull it-----------sure wish it was self propelled.  My back just kills me
when I try to use it.
My son & DIL have a Rainbow. It is expensive but it is wonderful.  No dust
to affect allergies and it really cleans.
Gwen

> > well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge
> > households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will
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> Carole
Carole - 21 Aug 2005 20:38 GMT
> Carole, I'm the same with my Oreck.  It cleans well but I can't push and
> pull it-----------sure wish it was self propelled.  My back just kills me
> when I try to use it.

Yup, Gwen, that's my problem too, only with CHF I get VERY out of breath
trying to push and pull it. Luckily, I live alone and don't make too
much of  a mess, so the little one I got with it is working fine for me :)

Carole
DianeW - 22 Aug 2005 02:01 GMT
I grew up with Rainbow and then inherited my Mom's. Had the motor
reconditioned last year and for a 25 or so year old vacume, it's doing
remarkably well. Instead of bags it uses water which you change often
during cleaning. (2-3 times for a house of 2500 sq feet. You can vacume
the dust off furniture and such with a hand attachment. They are very
expensive, but very worth it. They also take trade ins and sell them
reconditioned. Just look up Rainbow in the yellow pages in your area.
They are direct sale only I guess unless you go to their repair shop
and tell them you want a recon one. You really need to see it in person
to get all it does. I can remember my Mom using it to defrost her
fridge!  DianeW
RoseB - 22 Aug 2005 03:55 GMT
>I grew up with Rainbow and then inherited my Mom's.

I have one and it does clean very well. The fact that there are no
bags is a plus. Sometimes though for a quick clean up I wish that i
also had something smaller as this can feel like a bit of a nuisance
to get out all the parts and fill the water. That can be especially
difficult on days when hands are not cooperative, or arms are sore.

It is great with pets though. If there is an accident, the fact that
it is a wet vac means that you can spray an area and then use the
Rainbow to get some of the water up. You can also use it for jobs like
defrosting.

Mine is now about 25 years old too. Both my sister and my aunt had
one, so it came highly recommended.
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RoseB - 21 Aug 2005 19:51 GMT
it's been so long since i've bought a vacuum, i don't know
>what else to look for.
>
>diane, mom to shedding shelties

Would a built-in suit your needs? My sister recently got a built-in
vac and it has made life much easier. Their's is also a multipet
household. Because of her lund damage and so on she was not able to
vacccum using a conventional system. The built in is light since you
only have to worry about the hose.

    Rose   @}>->--
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JA - 22 Aug 2005 00:07 GMT
> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge
> households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will
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> diane, mom to shedding shelties

Our Dyson works well and one of the models has a special attachment
for pet hair.  Amazon often has reconditioned Dysons, so you can
avoid the ridiculous prices on the new ones.

OTOH, our Roomba is much cuter.  Roomba may not vacuum as
well as the Dyson, but he does it all on his own--and even knows
enough to head to his charging station when the battery needs
to be recharged.  I can hardly wait until his little sibling
Scooba goes on sale.  Scooba will vacuum and then wash,
rinse, and dry vinyl (or other washable) floors.
Nicole H - 22 Aug 2005 01:52 GMT
I have a kirby and love it!  It pulls/pushes itself.... I paid 800$ (I
haggled like you wouldn't believe)

The Dyson Animal is supposed to be good but I don't know if it propels
itself.
> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge
> households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will
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>
> diane, mom to shedding shelties
Harvey R. Stone - 22 Aug 2005 02:24 GMT
>I have a kirby and love it!  It pulls/pushes itself.... I paid 800$ (I
>haggled like you wouldn't believe)
>
> The Dyson Animal is supposed to be good but I don't know if it propels
> itself.

Hi Nicole,,,    Boy,,,, reading that sure does bring back memories.   I wish
I had haggled with the full set I bought my wife  but   water under the
bridge as they say.   My wife loved it too  but I just could not get her to
pick up a little before she used it.  I know that I had 3-4 propellers put
in that thing.   Zinggg up a quarter or something would go and brake off a
blade or two.  So it goes.
Harv
Diane - 22 Aug 2005 02:59 GMT
john's too vacs are ancient kirbys. and i do mean ancient! i could no
more change those attachments than fly. and diane w, the thought of
having to deal with water in order to vacuum is not pleasant! i'm
looking for simplicity, but also a good price. i just used my
stepdaughters eureka upright with hepa filter and it cleaned like a
dream, had easy to use attachments, but pushing it across the floor
just about did in my wrists. i'll keep hunting.

diane
DianeW - 22 Aug 2005 03:57 GMT
Dealing with filling up the water in the Rainbow is a pain I agree. I
always hated doing it when I was a kid. And my husband complains about
it too but it cleans better than anything an there is no residual dirt
in the air cause it all gets sucked into water. It's definately unique.
I ask him if he wanted to get a new one and he said yes, a new Rainbow!
LOL  Good luck with the search. DianeW
Nann Bell - 22 Aug 2005 15:20 GMT
consider getting a cannister if the uprights are bothering your wrists that
much.  My mom has one of the fancy Kenmores that really cleans the carpet
well, though I'll admit there have been no shelties in her house - just a
hairy me and my sisters cat  ;)

I have an older, simpler Kenmore cannister that also works surprisingly well,
speaking as a human who sheds much hair.  My mom and I both find the
cannisters easier to use than uprights.

And consider buying one for each level so you don't have to lug it up and
down.  I'm still kicking myself for not buying the Kenmore cannister I saw in
a thrift store for $5 last Easter to keep in the basement.......

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> john's too vacs are ancient kirbys. and i do mean ancient! i could no
> more change those attachments than fly. and diane w, the thought of
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>
> diane
Alice Faber - 22 Aug 2005 16:17 GMT
> consider getting a cannister if the uprights are bothering your wrists that
> much.  My mom has one of the fancy Kenmores that really cleans the carpet
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> down.  I'm still kicking myself for not buying the Kenmore cannister I saw in
> a thrift store for $5 last Easter to keep in the basement.......

Absolutely.

I bought a self-propelled Hoover upright a few years ago. It's a bit
heavy, and turning it can be a problem, but it's still easier to
manipulate than my non-self-propelled Hoover. That one still works fine,
so I have it downstairs, where I have to vacuum far less often (finished
basement). That leaves a problem with the stairs. But I wear bifocals,
and it's hard to focus on the stairs, so I just don't see how much they
need vacuuming (or not).

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Nicole H - 22 Aug 2005 22:31 GMT
the one i have has a separate storage spot for things like quarters, etc...
it's great.  I've had it for 9-10 yrs and have only changed the bag and the
belt.

My friend has the one right  below mine and it doesn't propel itself...
there's no way I could use that one.

Oh, btw, the bags have micron filtration- it doesn't let anything out- or so
they say.  I have the G5.... it has a shampoo-er and several attachments....
the one downside is if you have stairs... it is very heavy.

>>I have a kirby and love it!  It pulls/pushes itself.... I paid 800$ (I
>>haggled like you wouldn't believe)
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> and brake off a blade or two.  So it goes.
> Harv
Nann Bell - 23 Aug 2005 15:15 GMT
BTW, Consumer Reports recommends for self propelled uprights:
Hoover WindTunnel Self Propelled Ultra U6439-900 $240
WindTunnel Self Propelled Ultra U6436-900 $300
WindTunnel Self Propelled Ultra U6437-900 $300

for non-self propelled uprights:
Eureka Boss Smart Vac Ultra 4870 $135

I'd be happy to print out all of their ratings and recommendations and snail
mail them to you, if you'd like or you can look them up at your library.  
Copying them into email just doesn't work well.

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Duckie - 24 Aug 2005 01:06 GMT
What do they have for canisters?
Duckie

> BTW, Consumer Reports recommends for self propelled uprights:
> Hoover WindTunnel Self Propelled Ultra U6439-900 $240
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> mail them to you, if you'd like or you can look them up at your library.  
> Copying them into email just doesn't work well.

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Nann Bell - 24 Aug 2005 05:55 GMT
> What do they have for canisters?
> Duckie

non-committal at the moment:

"Nearly any canister vacuum can handle bare floors. The best we test
typically offer impressive carpet cleaning and maintain airflow through the
hose for use with tools.

Previous CR Quick Picks from Sears' Kenmore brand and others have also
blended high performance and convenience with relatively low prices; $300 to
$350 is typical for our highest-value canister selections.

While our Ratings still include many fine canister vacs, most of our previous
Quick Picks have been discontinued and replaced with successor models. We're
currently testing these and other canisters, and will have updated Ratings
and Quick Picks this fall.

Can't wait? The $150 GE (Wal-Mart) 106766 is an attractive choice for its low
price and fine performance, though you may have to change its bag relatively
often, based on our airflow tests. Also consider the Sanyo SC-X1000P if
you're willing to live with more noise or the high-priced Dyson DC11 Full
Gear if much of your cleaning involves tools."

(I do love having access to an online CR subscription!)

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Adelle - 22 Aug 2005 06:42 GMT
Hi!

I have a Sears with a HEPA filter. I like it. It works well enough. Still
get a smell of somewhat warm dusty air. But the powerhead attachment is
great on dog/cat hair.

It's a canister vac, so you are not pushing around the entire weight. But
this powerhead is heavier than my old Sears one. Must be a tradeoff.

As for changing attachments, I can still press down the little button which
secures most of the pieces when attached to the hose. The powerhead has a
small lever you have to step on to detach. Can't do it barefoot. It was
about $420.00 when I got it a few years ago.

Adelle

> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge
> households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will
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>
> diane, mom to shedding shelties
Diane - 24 Aug 2005 13:20 GMT
hi all,
thanks for all the recommendations. nann, thanks for the CR reviews. i
do have a canister, an electrolux. it's 20 years old and still works
well, however i find the canister a pain, especially attaching the
attachments and lugging the thing around. i recently used my
stepdaughter's eureka boss which was so easy in terms of having the
attachments right there on board and being able to flip a switch on top
to use them. it was refreshing to use after lugging around that
canister and hose with powerhead. however it was very heavy. i guess
it's all a trade-off. i'll have a housekeeper every two weeks, but with
two dogs and a lot of carpet (my old house had very little), i'll need
to do some in between vacuuming in a big way.

thanks again,
diane
Newsgroup Spambuster - 27 Aug 2005 07:52 GMT
Diane, here is my 2¢ for what it is worth and a bit late!

Go to a vacuume store where they will let you actually plug in and try
several varieties.   You'd be surprised at how much you can tell by
running the vacuume for just a few minutes, and they can also tell you
which vacuumes are self propelled, which ones have motor protection so
you don't burn the motor out if you suck up a screw or some other little
thing that you didn't see.    They often will also do some free
maintenance if you end up buying from them.

You may also want to do a search on a new vacuume I just saw advertised
on the HGTV channel.   I think if was called an airider and it is a
canister style vac that hovers on air so is easily manuevered around.
Sounded pretty interesting, but don't know how heavy they might be to
haul up and down stairs when the vacuume is off and can't do its
floating on air/hovering bit.

Good luck to you and John!

Donna G
Jo Firey - 27 Aug 2005 16:51 GMT
> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge
> households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will
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>
> diane, mom to shedding shelties

Many at the cat anecdotes group recommend the Hoover wind tunnel.  Quite a
few of us bought them at the same time and all liked them.  If I had the
money and several stories in the house I'd tend to look for one self
propelled for the main floor and one for any other floor.  Self propelled is
a tough trade off.  They are always so much heavier.  I did see a Hoover
wind tunnel at target a few days ago that had a special attachment for pet
hair on furniture.

Jo
Aim - 29 Aug 2005 16:14 GMT
I know I'm late to the party, but...

I had a really nice wind tunnel, AND a higher-end Dirt Devil. Both were
the HEPA variety self-propelled and all that jazz. Tish vacuums daily,
sometimes twice a day, due to our having four little furry beasts
running around with litter in their pockets and throwing handfuls of it
like confetti wherever they go. They also pull great chunks of fur out
of their hides and leave it around the house as offerings to Bast. I'd
had my vacuums for about a year, and Tish killed them in 6 months of
daily fur-gathering. They completely died. Animal fur is another deal
than anything else.

We seriously shopped for months, and eventually went to Sears and
shelled out $500 for the second-to-highest quality Dyson. Tish had
vacuumed immediately before we left, and then once again when we came
home with the old vacuum, as we wanted to do a test. She turned the
Dyson on and then realized it had a piece of tape on it still, so she
bent down and spent 45 seconds or so picking that off it. In that time
it was on, and sitting still in one spot on the floor. That canister
filled halfway with cat fur and crud it sucked out of that section of
floor. It was horrifying and disgusting. We'd shampooed our carpets with
a power shampooer that we rented only 3-4 weeks before, and  one pass
with the Dyson got them cleaner.

I was NOT thrilled about spending $500 on a damned vacuum. After I saw
what it does, I am convinced. And the filter never needs changing. You
clean it out. Also it's got the ability to dry-clean your carpets. And
it's got attachments that periscope up to the ceiling and do those too,
and easily. They're light and easy. Emptying it is gimp-friendly. I can
use the thing. It's light and comfortable to push. I'm totally
convinced. Completely sold. In fact, when we buy a house, if it has a
downstairs, I've already decided and told Tish we're buying a second one
so we have one for each floor rather than having to carry up and down.

The price no longer mattered. This thing will last. And never buying
filters or bags again makes me happy. Not only that but there's no dut
exposure when you empty it like the other bagless ones.

It simply rocks.

If you were closer you could come try ours. Since you're not, I'd say go
to Sears and try theirs, or to a specialty Dyson dealer to play with
them. You'll be in love.

Aim

> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge
> households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> diane, mom to shedding shelties
Aim - 29 Aug 2005 16:20 GMT
I know I'm late to the party, but...

I had a really nice wind tunnel, AND a higher-end Dirt Devil. Both were
the HEPA variety self-propelled and all that jazz. Tish vacuums daily,
sometimes twice a day, due to our having four little furry beasts
running around with litter in their pockets and throwing handfuls of it
like confetti wherever they go. They also pull great chunks of fur out
of their hides and leave it around the house as offerings to Bast. I'd
had my vacuums for about a year, and Tish killed them in 6 months of
daily fur-gathering. They completely died. Animal fur is another deal
than anything else.

We seriously shopped for months, and eventually went to Sears and
shelled out $500 for the second-to-highest quality Dyson. Tish had
vacuumed immediately before we left, and then once again when we came
home with the old vacuum, as we wanted to do a test. She turned the
Dyson on and then realized it had a piece of tape on it still, so she
bent down and spent 45 seconds or so picking that off it. In that time
it was on, and sitting still in one spot on the floor. That canister
filled halfway with cat fur and crud it sucked out of that section of
floor. It was horrifying and disgusting. We'd shampooed our carpets with
a power shampooer that we rented only 3-4 weeks before, and  one pass
with the Dyson got them cleaner.

I was NOT thrilled about spending $500 on a damned vacuum. After I saw
what it does, I am convinced. And the filter never needs changing. You
clean it out. Also it's got the ability to dry-clean your carpets. And
it's got attachments that periscope up to the ceiling and do those too,
and easily. They're light and easy. Emptying it is gimp-friendly. I can
use the thing. It's light and comfortable to push. I'm totally
convinced. Completely sold. In fact, when we buy a house, if it has a
downstairs, I've already decided and told Tish we're buying a second one
so we have one for each floor rather than having to carry up and down.

The price no longer mattered. This thing will last. And never buying
filters or bags again makes me happy. Not only that but there's no dut
exposure when you empty it like the other bagless ones.

It simply rocks.

If you were closer you could come try ours. Since you're not, I'd say go
to Sears and try theirs, or to a specialty Dyson dealer to play with
them. You'll be in love.

Aim

> well, john and i have three ancient vacuums between us as we merge
> households, and none of them work well. we need an upright that will
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>
> diane, mom to shedding shelties
Diane - 30 Aug 2005 06:08 GMT
good to hear from you, aim. you found a prize in tish! i'd love a
partner who loved to vacuum.
well, i think i'm getting a hoover self-propelled wind tunnel, due to
lower price (than dyson etc), the self propelled feature, the pet hair
feature and the latest consumer report review. plus the fact that i
have so many other things to buy for this house. the dog hair on the
carpet is totally grossing me out so the sooner i get it, the better!

diane

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