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Harvey R. Stone - 23 Jul 2005 14:50 GMT
Hi All,    Today I will take my second Enbrel shot after being in medicated
remission from the TB medicine for 6 of the seven
months.............................................  It did take kind of
take me back to when I was 40 or so. It started in my shoulders went to the
base of my thumbs, then on the the wrists.  That is when I had to drag
myself back into the real world of a person with RA....  I am going to talk
to my RD about doing the anti-bio schedule.  I only have 4 more years of
paid for insurance from my retirement agreement and I will be 70.   So it
goes.
Harv
Navy1 - 23 Jul 2005 15:43 GMT
Best wishes, Harv, that you continue to improve.
Loujean

>Hi All,    Today I will take my second Enbrel shot after being in medicated
>remission from the TB medicine for 6 of the seven
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>goes.
>Harv
Becky - 24 Jul 2005 04:06 GMT
Harv,
Do you mean you felt that the enbrel made you feel worse?  "Sorry guess I am
a little dense sometimes when it comes to understanding posts. Also I see
you are done with your TB meds, that is great, I have to take it for one
more month, they require 9 months of medicine out here where I am.  I will
start the enbrel on Aug 12th, that will be the end of my TB meds. I am still
a little worried about it but don't want my hips to get worse.
Wishing you good luck with the enbrel
Becky
> Hi All,    Today I will take my second Enbrel shot after being in
> medicated remission from the TB medicine for 6 of the seven
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> it goes.
> Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 24 Jul 2005 15:44 GMT
> Harv,
> Do you mean you felt that the enbrel made you feel worse?  "Sorry guess I
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> Wishing you good luck with the enbrel
> Becky

Hi Becky,,,  The TB medicine put me in full medicated remission and Enbrel
not needed.  I have nearly 5 months supply in my frig.    My RD said I only
needed to take the medicine for 6 months and I took it 7.   The Enbrel did
like it has always done for me.   I felt better the next day after taking my
first shot three years ago and the same thing happened two weeks ago.  I was
going into a full, all over flare and it was stopped dead in its tracks
without steroids this time.  Three years ago I had a 100mg steroid shot and
I sweet talked the nurse into giving me a 50mg in each cheek.   That much of
a shoot really hurts in one place.,,,,,,,,,,, But it must of been the Enbrel
because like I said it turned off the flare this time without a steroid
shot.
Harv

Ps I know I stopped the TB medicine early and my lung doctor wanted 9 months
too.    The breath and lung capacity, oxygen in the blood stream cost my
insurance over a thousand dollars and the little blow machine in his office
cost a hundred everytime it was used.   The doctor was setting up to do all
that again and I was not going for it.   I have terrible scarring in my
lungs that came from 3 packs a day or RA lung that is not going to get
better and during those 7 months of seeing the specialist he did or
prescribed nothing to actually help congestion,,, excess fluid or the my
lung capacity.  If he had of,,,,, I would of gone the full 9 months and did
what ever test he wanted to run.  Why go through all that again for nothing.
By the way, I stopped smoking over 25 years ago and it is a good thing I
did.
Becky - 24 Jul 2005 16:49 GMT
Wow Harv, that is great the TB med did that for you, hasn't done that for
me, I have one more month like I said and then done with it, I have taken
the milk thistle all along also since it did have my liver enzymes go up a
little.
I am getting my first steroid shot hopefully in a couple of weeks, my RA doc
sent me to an ortho guy to evaluate my right hip, he doesn't feel it is the
RA for some reason, thinks it is bursitis and over use from the exercise I
was doing, so will see.  Maybe the enbrel will help it if I start it, the
MTX makes me very tired and lately I am thinking that it may be the cause of
my mental depression I am experiencing, which I have never had before at
all, I am always an upbeat person on the go and since increasing it to 17.5
I just don't give a rip, sorry/
Anyway I am happy you are doing good, and good job on quitting smoking, I
have tired for years to get my husband to quit, he is diabetic and still
smokes, but has cut down but I tell him he needs to go all the way.
Thanks for the reply and have a great week.
Becky

>> Harv,
>> Do you mean you felt that the enbrel made you feel worse?  "Sorry guess I
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> for nothing. By the way, I stopped smoking over 25 years ago and it is a
> good thing I did.
Harvey R. Stone - 24 Jul 2005 18:24 GMT
> Wow Harv, that is great the TB med did that for you, hasn't done that for
> me, I have one more month like I said and then done with it, I have taken
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> Thanks for the reply and have a great week.
> Becky

Hi Becky,   I am sorry to say that Methx and amitriptalene got me so down
that I think the pain I was having each day,,, fuzzy thinking,,, and a down
attitude helped me to retire early at 55.    Ooooh if I had only taken my
company disability which was 70% or what I was making at the time which
would be far more than Fed. disability and pension     but      ya know,,,,
you can not go back and redoooo anything.  I thought I could get another
job,,,, any job.....  So it goes.
   About your husband smoking,,,,, they say that a persons lungs clean up
after about two years     but   what they do not tell you about the scars is
that they never go away or recover.   They stay as they are or get worse.
The thing is,,,,, like KJ,,,, you have to want to quit more than you want to
smoke but I had help on my knees and like Enbrel,,,, it was help right now
and I never smoked again.   Sorry, I know you have read that before but it
is the truth.
Harv
Squirrely - 24 Jul 2005 07:29 GMT
I hope all goes well for  you Harv and that you get quick relief.

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> Hi All,    Today I will take my second Enbrel shot after being in
> medicated remission from the TB medicine for 6 of the seven
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> it goes.
> Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 24 Jul 2005 15:49 GMT
>I hope all goes well for  you Harv and that you get quick relief.
> Love and hugs to all
> Good thoughts coming your way too.
>
> Squirrely Jo

Thank you Jo.....  I am one of those people that Enbrel works really well
for me and I chopped some limbs an mowed the lawn and enjoyed it a week ago
but there for awhile my wife was doing that kind of stuff.  Ohhhh does that
skinny kid sweat alot.....pleasingly plumb... as they say.  LOLOL
Harv
Nann Bell - 24 Jul 2005 21:50 GMT
may the enbrel kick in again quickly for you.  You have been through such
torture in recent months.  It is great that you are finally down with the TB
meds and can have our precious Enbrel again.

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Newsgroup Spambuster - 26 Jul 2005 03:42 GMT
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Praying the enbrel does the trick for you and gets you feeling much
better real quick!!!

God bless!

Donna G
Harvey R. Stone - 26 Jul 2005 14:35 GMT
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> Donna G

thank you,,,, it did.   Almost got into a full flare before giving up the
hope the TB antibiotic cured me of RA and had a shot of Enbrel.
Harv
Newsgroup Spambuster - 30 Jul 2005 21:36 GMT
So, Harv, how are you doing now that you are back on the enbrel?   Doing
better I pray!!!

Donna G
Harvey R. Stone - 31 Jul 2005 02:13 GMT
> So, Harv, how are you doing now that you are back on the enbrel?   Doing
> better I pray!!!
>
> Donna G

Thank you for asking,,,,, Just like old times.   One shot, one day, and good
buy flare.   My RD said Noooo to me trying Doxycyclene because the TB
anti-bio put me in complete medicated remission....I wanted to try it...
Maybe someday.  He lost three long time patients last week and was kind of
shook up about it.  I told him about only for more years of insurance and he
said that Enbrel worked so well for me that we will worry about that in four
years.   I really think it was just a bad time to talk to him about changes
when I have something now that works so well now.
Harv

Ps   The TB anti-bio lasted two weeks when stopped before I started to slip
into a flare that might of went all over.  Enbrel stopped that.

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