Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / July 2005
Sudden Hand Pain
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CASun - 18 Jul 2005 22:42 GMT I'm new to this forum, though I have had fibrmyalgia since 6th grade. I'm now 43, so I am used to the FMS and know how it feels for me. I have been off all medications for 5 years, to have a child and now I have restorative sleep, since I am an exhausted parent. Who would have guessed. I still have problems with eposodic trigger points and pain, but less spasming.
Two months ago I developed a new set of symptoms: bilateral hand and foot pain. When it got worse and had become consistent, I went to my general physician. Since I was having a bad bought of FMS with generalized pain, she disregarded my report of a new type of pain. Even though hand and foot pain has never been part of my FMS.
That was 5 weeks ago and the FMS attack has completely receded, not so the hand pain. It has gotten progressively worse. I would appreciate anyone's 2 cents on possible diagnosis, tests to request, symptom relief. Has any one experienced a similar onset?
Below is my written summary for my doctor (appt in 1 wk). Let me preface it with there being no causative trauma or event. Also the hand pain came on gradually but is now constant.
MEDICAL SUMMARY Duration: 2-3 months with symptoms increasing in severity. These symptoms were noticed prior to a recent severe flare-up of fibromyalgia (6 wk duration), were present throughout the flare-up and have not improved with the resolution of the fibromyalgia flare-up.
Consistency of Symptoms: The symptoms have been present on a daily basis with a couple of periods of slightly improved symptoms. These slightly improved periods were only 1-2 days in duration. The symptoms have been consistently worsening and having a greater impact on functionality and pain levels.
Symptoms
Pain in hands and feet Mainly aching with some jabbing sensations. This was my first symptom and remains my primary complaint. The level of pain is impacting my abilities both at work and home. The hands were affected first and remain much more affected than my feet. It is bilateral with the dominant hand becoming more severe during day as I use it. It is much more severe in the day than the night with use of my hands being the triggering agent. At night my hands ache slightly and tend to be stiffly curled in my sleep. It is not significantly affecting my sleep and I awake refreshed.
The pain is limited to my fingers, hands, wrists and toes. Since my fibromyalgia flare-up resolved my pain level in all other parts of my body has been minimal. Pain in my hands and feet were never a part of my fibromyalgia flare-ups in the past.
Intolerence to temperature extremes in my hands A early symptom was an extreme discomfort in my hands when holding very cold items (iced water) after less than a minute. This is still a major symptom. Recently very hot water has become increasing painful and causes short term itching and pain in the skin of my hands. Cool and slightly warm water is pleasant.
Stiffness in my hands A more recent symptom, but increasing in impact and severity. Some loss of range of motion overall but most evident when moving each finger independantly rather than all together. Typing is painful. The stiffness and pain has significantly reduced the strength in my hands for daily tasks, both heavy lifting and opening jars. At rest, my hands tend to be stiff and curled.
Swelling in my hands and feet A more recent symptom. Moderate visible swelling in both hands and feet. This is not related to the time of day.
Medication results
Tylenol is ineffective. Vicoden at low doses is only moderately effective. Aleve is the most effective in lowering the pain level and increasing functionality. Aleve taken at the start of the day seems to improve the level of pain throughout the day. Currently taking 2 Aleve BID, at breakfast and dinner. At this dose, I have fewer occurrences of pain that is not resolved by ceasing the offending activity but I still have constant aching with episodes of increased pain as I use my hands throughout the day.
Painful Activities Any pressure on my hands NOT skin sensations (except hot water and icy cold items) any movement of my hands or wrists NOT related to position of my joints Typing Opening door handles Holding hands Gripping (even very light things) Lifting things when holding them with my hands Holding very cold items Walking (occasionally)
Concerns What has changed? What is the cause of my hand pain? Suggestions for controlling symptoms short-term Diagnostics: How to pursue determining cause and effective treatment. Referral
Gwen Love - 18 Jul 2005 22:47 GMT That is an excellent report to give to your doctor. However, I would suggest that you have that doctor refer you to a rheumatologist, who is the only one qualified to deal with arthritis, of which fibromyalgia is a part. And it sounds as if the hands and feet problem could also be arthritis. Gwen
I'm new to this forum, though I have had fibrmyalgia since 6th grade. I'm now 43, so I am used to the FMS and know how it feels for me. I have been off all medications for 5 years, to have a child and now I have restorative sleep, since I am an exhausted parent. Who would have guessed. I still have problems with eposodic trigger points and pain, but less spasming.
Two months ago I developed a new set of symptoms: bilateral hand and foot pain. When it got worse and had become consistent, I went to my general physician. Since I was having a bad bought of FMS with generalized pain, she disregarded my report of a new type of pain. Even though hand and foot pain has never been part of my FMS.
That was 5 weeks ago and the FMS attack has completely receded, not so the hand pain. It has gotten progressively worse. I would appreciate anyone's 2 cents on possible diagnosis, tests to request, symptom relief. Has any one experienced a similar onset?
Below is my written summary for my doctor (appt in 1 wk). Let me preface it with there being no causative trauma or event. Also the hand pain came on gradually but is now constant.
MEDICAL SUMMARY Duration: 2-3 months with symptoms increasing in severity. These symptoms were noticed prior to a recent severe flare-up of fibromyalgia (6 wk duration), were present throughout the flare-up and have not improved with the resolution of the fibromyalgia flare-up.
Consistency of Symptoms: The symptoms have been present on a daily basis with a couple of periods of slightly improved symptoms. These slightly improved periods were only 1-2 days in duration. The symptoms have been consistently worsening and having a greater impact on functionality and pain levels.
Symptoms
Pain in hands and feet Mainly aching with some jabbing sensations. This was my first symptom and remains my primary complaint. The level of pain is impacting my abilities both at work and home. The hands were affected first and remain much more affected than my feet. It is bilateral with the dominant hand becoming more severe during day as I use it. It is much more severe in the day than the night with use of my hands being the triggering agent. At night my hands ache slightly and tend to be stiffly curled in my sleep. It is not significantly affecting my sleep and I awake refreshed.
The pain is limited to my fingers, hands, wrists and toes. Since my fibromyalgia flare-up resolved my pain level in all other parts of my body has been minimal. Pain in my hands and feet were never a part of my fibromyalgia flare-ups in the past.
Intolerence to temperature extremes in my hands A early symptom was an extreme discomfort in my hands when holding very cold items (iced water) after less than a minute. This is still a major symptom. Recently very hot water has become increasing painful and causes short term itching and pain in the skin of my hands. Cool and slightly warm water is pleasant.
Stiffness in my hands A more recent symptom, but increasing in impact and severity. Some loss of range of motion overall but most evident when moving each finger independantly rather than all together. Typing is painful. The stiffness and pain has significantly reduced the strength in my hands for daily tasks, both heavy lifting and opening jars. At rest, my hands tend to be stiff and curled.
Swelling in my hands and feet A more recent symptom. Moderate visible swelling in both hands and feet. This is not related to the time of day.
Medication results
Tylenol is ineffective. Vicoden at low doses is only moderately effective. Aleve is the most effective in lowering the pain level and increasing functionality. Aleve taken at the start of the day seems to improve the level of pain throughout the day. Currently taking 2 Aleve BID, at breakfast and dinner. At this dose, I have fewer occurrences of pain that is not resolved by ceasing the offending activity but I still have constant aching with episodes of increased pain as I use my hands throughout the day.
Painful Activities Any pressure on my hands NOT skin sensations (except hot water and icy cold items) any movement of my hands or wrists NOT related to position of my joints Typing Opening door handles Holding hands Gripping (even very light things) Lifting things when holding them with my hands Holding very cold items Walking (occasionally)
Concerns What has changed? What is the cause of my hand pain? Suggestions for controlling symptoms short-term Diagnostics: How to pursue determining cause and effective treatment. Referral
CASun - 18 Jul 2005 23:20 GMT Yep, Its back to the rheumatologist. I think I have a good one. When I went to see him before, he seemed bored by my stable FMS and just kept emphasizing exericise. When I weaned off meds to work on getting pregnant, he lost all interest. Hopefully, things we will have a better vibe going now, since I have an acute issue and am not med adverse.
Diane - 19 Jul 2005 00:59 GMT i think your rheumy will no longer be bored with you. :-)
my early symptoms of RA (years before the swelling etc kicked in) were bone-deep pains in my hands and feet. my bloodwork was normal for a long time.
good luck to you. keep us posted,
diane
Ann - 19 Jul 2005 01:52 GMT My very first symptoms of RA was hand pain and stiffness. The feet came much later though. I hope this is not what you have, but please get back to your RD and be certain.
Ann
Duckie - 19 Jul 2005 03:46 GMT Well, just from what you said, I am not really impressed with him at this point. But give him a second chance but not a third. lol Duckie
> Yep, Its back to the rheumatologist. I think I have a good one. When > I went to see him before, he seemed bored by my stable FMS and just > kept emphasizing exericise. When I weaned off meds to work on getting > pregnant, he lost all interest. Hopefully, things we will have a > better vibe going now, since I have an acute issue and am not med > adverse.
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d'huit - 18 Jul 2005 23:29 GMT i second what she said.
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> That is an excellent report to give to your doctor. However, I would > suggest [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > Diagnostics: How to pursue determining cause and effective treatment. > Referral Duckie - 19 Jul 2005 03:39 GMT Get yourself a referral to a rheumatologist [RD]. They are the only doctor's who are able to reliably diagnosis one of the 170+ forms of arthritis, fibro being just one. Duckie
> I'm new to this forum, though I have had fibrmyalgia since 6th grade. > I'm now 43, so I am used to the FMS and know how it feels for me. I [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > Diagnostics: How to pursue determining cause and effective treatment. > Referral
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Squirrely - 19 Jul 2005 19:38 GMT Welcome to the group. I would suggest you see a Rheumatologist. It could be arthritis in your hands. RD's know about all this kind of thing.
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I'm new to this forum, though I have had fibrmyalgia since 6th grade. I'm now 43, so I am used to the FMS and know how it feels for me. I have been off all medications for 5 years, to have a child and now I have restorative sleep, since I am an exhausted parent. Who would have guessed. I still have problems with eposodic trigger points and pain, but less spasming.
Two months ago I developed a new set of symptoms: bilateral hand and foot pain. When it got worse and had become consistent, I went to my general physician. Since I was having a bad bought of FMS with generalized pain, she disregarded my report of a new type of pain. Even though hand and foot pain has never been part of my FMS.
That was 5 weeks ago and the FMS attack has completely receded, not so the hand pain. It has gotten progressively worse. I would appreciate anyone's 2 cents on possible diagnosis, tests to request, symptom relief. Has any one experienced a similar onset?
Below is my written summary for my doctor (appt in 1 wk). Let me preface it with there being no causative trauma or event. Also the hand pain came on gradually but is now constant.
MEDICAL SUMMARY Duration: 2-3 months with symptoms increasing in severity. These symptoms were noticed prior to a recent severe flare-up of fibromyalgia (6 wk duration), were present throughout the flare-up and have not improved with the resolution of the fibromyalgia flare-up.
Consistency of Symptoms: The symptoms have been present on a daily basis with a couple of periods of slightly improved symptoms. These slightly improved periods were only 1-2 days in duration. The symptoms have been consistently worsening and having a greater impact on functionality and pain levels.
Symptoms
Pain in hands and feet Mainly aching with some jabbing sensations. This was my first symptom and remains my primary complaint. The level of pain is impacting my abilities both at work and home. The hands were affected first and remain much more affected than my feet. It is bilateral with the dominant hand becoming more severe during day as I use it. It is much more severe in the day than the night with use of my hands being the triggering agent. At night my hands ache slightly and tend to be stiffly curled in my sleep. It is not significantly affecting my sleep and I awake refreshed.
The pain is limited to my fingers, hands, wrists and toes. Since my fibromyalgia flare-up resolved my pain level in all other parts of my body has been minimal. Pain in my hands and feet were never a part of my fibromyalgia flare-ups in the past.
Intolerence to temperature extremes in my hands A early symptom was an extreme discomfort in my hands when holding very cold items (iced water) after less than a minute. This is still a major symptom. Recently very hot water has become increasing painful and causes short term itching and pain in the skin of my hands. Cool and slightly warm water is pleasant.
Stiffness in my hands A more recent symptom, but increasing in impact and severity. Some loss of range of motion overall but most evident when moving each finger independantly rather than all together. Typing is painful. The stiffness and pain has significantly reduced the strength in my hands for daily tasks, both heavy lifting and opening jars. At rest, my hands tend to be stiff and curled.
Swelling in my hands and feet A more recent symptom. Moderate visible swelling in both hands and feet. This is not related to the time of day.
Medication results
Tylenol is ineffective. Vicoden at low doses is only moderately effective. Aleve is the most effective in lowering the pain level and increasing functionality. Aleve taken at the start of the day seems to improve the level of pain throughout the day. Currently taking 2 Aleve BID, at breakfast and dinner. At this dose, I have fewer occurrences of pain that is not resolved by ceasing the offending activity but I still have constant aching with episodes of increased pain as I use my hands throughout the day.
Painful Activities Any pressure on my hands NOT skin sensations (except hot water and icy cold items) any movement of my hands or wrists NOT related to position of my joints Typing Opening door handles Holding hands Gripping (even very light things) Lifting things when holding them with my hands Holding very cold items Walking (occasionally)
Concerns What has changed? What is the cause of my hand pain? Suggestions for controlling symptoms short-term Diagnostics: How to pursue determining cause and effective treatment. Referral
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