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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / July 2005I am very cranky
And probably out of line, but here is my story. Nephrologist office gal called today to remind me of appt. tomorrow as is usual. Told me the nurse (I guess) who takes BP and weight before doctor comes in, wants me to bring all my meds bottles with me. I told her I have a printed folder in my wallet that shows all my meds, doses, prescribing docs etc. She said nurse insists that patients comply with her requests. So now I get huffy and tell her I would think about it. She replies that "Miss Nurse" probably would refuse to see me if I didn't bring the bottles. I absolutely hate to be treated as an incompetent or a child. Am I wrong? (Why I am so upset about this is that I have my bottles in specific spots all over the house and would have to make a chart to get them all back in their right spots.) Ann > And probably out of line, but here is my story. Nephrologist office gal > called today to remind me of appt. tomorrow as is usual. Told me the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ann You are so upset because of the way you were told and the way that resonated with you. There are actually some very good reasons for taking all the bottles with you. Yes, you yourself may be most excellent at keeping all your meds list up to date. And with good fortune you may do so for all of your life and in spite of how you are feeling at any given time. But when someone takes all the bottles, it makes it easier for the medical person to check them off against the list they have in your file. Easier to discuss each one and then set it aside. Easier to see if any infrequently used ones have expired and need to be replaces. Easier to see what you are going to need refills on in the near future. And easier for them to visualize everything that you take and how it might interact. Note: They want all the non RX stuff too. Jo >> And probably out of line, but here is my story. Nephrologist office gal >> called today to remind me of appt. tomorrow as is usual. Told me the [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Jo nice job, jo! you stated a few thing i hadn't thought of. and yes, sometimes the inflection in a voice can be a tad toooooo full of their own agenda. i detest medical bullying tactics, which now always causes me cut off my nose to spite my face. if they don't stop bullying, i wind up doing my passive aggressive thing---literally, i ignore them, their phone calls or whatever, and sometimes, for a very long time; or i dump them as my medical support. childish, yes, i know. but i detest those kinds of tactics; went though an entire year's worth while in hospital. i simply can't tolerate it anymore. and i'm too damn nice to spit in their eye.LOL kate I couldn't carry all of mine. How sad is that. I make a list like Ann. But I have to say that I now insist my mother bring all her bottles with her cause she messed up a couple of years ago with the stuff she brought with her and I don't want to go through that again. So I understand both points of view. Duckie >>And probably out of line, but here is my story. Nephrologist office gal >>called today to remind me of appt. tomorrow as is usual. Told me the [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Jo  Signature_('> (_<_) _ _('< -quack (_<_) _ __('< *QUACK!* <_{__) _('< "|,,|_" (_<_) _('< "AFLAC!" (_<_) > But when someone takes all the bottles, it makes it easier for the medical > person to check them off against the list they have in your file. Easier to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > visualize everything that you take and how it might interact. Note: They > want all the non RX stuff too. interestingly enough, I get the opposite reaction. They've always been very glad to get my detailed list of what I take rather than having to go through a bag. It probably helps that I am obviously well-informed and on top of my meds. And I have my list clustered by arthritis meds, fms meds, other meds and supplements. But I realize that wouldn't work with every patient. Still, I think medical personnel should have a somewhat flexible policy based on the patient's knowledge and level of functioning. Actually, I get aggravated with them asking if there've been "any changes since the last visit" as it's hard to remember the timing of every visit and med change. I've been known to give them my updated list and make them compare - then I'll answer any more detailed questions. SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare >> But when someone takes all the bottles, it makes it easier for the medical >> person to check them off against the list they have in your file. Easier to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >med change. I've been known to give them my updated list and make them >compare - then I'll answer any more detailed questions. I have my meds listed alphabetically. It makes it easier to check the whole list against their list. I'm like you, though, "Here's my latest list." I have a list of all surgical procedures, non-surgical situations, and allergies, attached to the back of my drug list. My drug list also lists dosage, when taken, and what for. I added a heading showing my name, social security number and date printed. This I put at the right side of the top of the paper. I figured out that when you look through a record, that would be the easiest place to check on name, etc. My husband always used to say I was just too too organized. He said he didn't know anybody else who organized her spices alphabetically. Loujean Believe me, Ann, I understand! Like you, I carry in my purse at all times a complete list of my medications, dosage, and times of day. A lot of times, I just toss away the bottles after emptying them into my daily medicine box. Good luck with Miss Nurse! Nanny > And probably out of line, but here is my story. Nephrologist office gal > called today to remind me of appt. tomorrow as is usual. Told me the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ann I carried all my medicines in bottles to the hospital once when I went in for surgery. When I told the nurse I had a list, she didn't even look at the meds ; took the list! I never take them any more. Gwen > Believe me, Ann, I understand! Like you, I carry in my purse at all times a > complete list of my medications, dosage, and times of day. A lot of times, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > Ann You are all so sensible and so smart, thank you for putting up with my foolish whining. Tomorrow I shall bring the few bottles I have available along with my list. I will tell Nursie that the others are poured into the four section pill dispenser on my kitchen counter and have the brand names, generic names, dosages and dispensing doc's name written on each section so that although the bottles have been tossed, she will know I am a capable partaker of said meds. If she gives me a whiff of trouble I shall probably strangle her and plead insanity which will show I am on the wrong pills. Ann >If she gives me a whiff of trouble I shall probably strangle her and >plead insanity which will show I am on the wrong pills. Sounds reasonable to me. :-) I just take a list with me, prescribed and over-the-counter meds. No way am I dragging all those bottles along. --- Joan Take that sense of humor with you! Gwen > You are all so sensible and so smart, thank you for putting up with my > foolish whining. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ann > If she gives me a whiff of trouble I shall probably strangle her and > plead insanity which will show I am on the wrong pills. LOL, love that line! SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare Sounds like you're all ready, Ann. You're doing the best you are able. Fortunately, I don't have to take bottles with me to the doctor, but I always have a typewritten list of meds, dosages, & times a day in my purse, and they seem very pleased with that! I was told once by a nurse, who was impressed by my list, that some people come in and can't even remember what meds they are taking. That is sad. Nanny > You are all so sensible and so smart, thank you for putting up with my > foolish whining. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ann Ann, That is terrible. I don't see why you have to carry around pill bottles when you got all that info on a list. It doesn't make sense to me at all. SignatureLove and hugs to all Good thoughts coming your way too. Squirrely Jo > And probably out of line, but here is my story. Nephrologist office gal > called today to remind me of appt. tomorrow as is usual. Told me the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ann Well I am home and not cranky any more. Nurse was very sweet and accepted my three pill bottles plus my very long list. Doctor changed my BP meds due to very slow heart beat and swelling and weight gain. Upped my lasix to 60 mg and dropped one BP (atenolol) from 100 to 50 mgs and gave me three months samples of Norvasc 10 which is the expensive one. Since I have both RA swelling and edema it's a problem figuring it out. He is a nephrologist and says the ankle swelling is RA but the feet/toes and tummy swelling is edema. So I learned something new. All in all, was a pretty good day. Ann Ann, So glad to see that things turned out ok for you at your appointment and that you didn't run into any major problems. Like you, I also keep a list of all my meds and dosages, etc. There is no way I am going to haul in all of my meds every time I have a doctors appointment. My cardiologists nurse got a little huffy about me not bringing all my meds one time and I told the cardiologist that I didn't need that kind of hassel all the time. He put a note in my chart that said I did not have to haul all those meds around with me and that I was very knowledgeable about my meds and also carried a very detailed list, so no need to bring meds with me. No more problems since then with the nurse. When ever I have run into a problem with any thing of that nature with a doctors staff, I always take it up with the doctor themselves and make sure they put a note in the chart about what we decided together. Sure hope the change in meds works well for you and that the edema disappears quickly. Donna G Ann, I'm also glad that it all turned out well for you. With all our afternoon thunderstorms, I was trying to think how I would manage a suitcase full of meds and vitamins, an umbrella, a cane, and still manage to lock the car door and open the clinic one! :-) loujean >Ann, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Donna G Loujean wrote: "With all our afternoon thunderstorms,..' We had a beaut of a storm here last night and lost the electricity from 6 pm until 8:30. Some neighboring cities didn't have electricity all night. It didn't cool things off much either. The good part was after the storm, sitting outside with the few neighbors I have and meeting a new neighbor from around the corner. We all stay inside so much that we don't have the contact with one another we had a few years back. Ann I remember the first couple of summers we were here in SC, the weatherman would say "and our usual thunderstorm between 4 & 8PM. It would come barrelling through and then the night would be beautiful. Losing the electricity is rough, especially people who aren't used to humid heat that we have in the south. My folks came down from Michigan a few days before my youngest one was born. The evening he came there was one of those horrible major thunderstorms. At that time we had a large window unit and when it lightning, the surge in the lines would flip the circuit breaker. My husband and I are up at the hospital (where they are trying to decide if the labor rooms were on the emergency power) and I had my youngest 9 lb & 2 oz! So, he calls home to tell my folks they have another grandson. Well, my Mom is sitting in 95 degrees with 95% humidity and all she could say was "How do you turn the ac back on?" We've teased her about that ever since. Loujean >Loujean wrote: >"With all our afternoon thunderstorms,..' [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Ann Loujean, do you live in SC now? If so, where? My daughter lives in Beaufort. Gwen > I remember the first couple of summers we were here in SC, the > weatherman would say "and our usual thunderstorm between 4 & 8PM. It [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > >Ann I live in Columbia, in the Northeast part. I have lived here for 33 years. My husband was buried here in 1994 and I still have one son living here. The oldest is working and living in Myrtle Beach. The youngest one is in the Navy and in charge of security on the Constitution (Old Ironsides) in Boston Harbor. Loujean >Loujean, do you live in SC now? If so, where? My daughter lives in >Beaufort. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> > >> >Ann Oh that would be funny -- to show up with a rolling suitcase to carry the meds. And if anyone asked you could casually say, "the dragon at the door seemed to think I needed to bring them all instead of just accepting my updated print out of the same." Doctors always get an ear full from me when I am not pleased. Duckie > Ann, > I'm also glad that it all turned out well for you. With all our [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> >>Donna G Signature_('> (_<_) _ _('< -quack (_<_) _ __('< *QUACK!* <_{__) _('< "|,,|_" (_<_) _('< "AFLAC!" (_<_) ROFLOL You made it sound even funnier...though it would work better with wheels, wouldn't it? Loujean >Oh that would be funny -- to show up with a rolling >suitcase to carry the meds. And if anyone asked you [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >>> >>>Donna G Ann, Glad things went better for you this time. Hope they continue to do so. I had trouble with atenolol too it dropped my bp down to far which speeded up my heart rate more. I hope you find something that works great for you. SignatureLove and hugs to all Good thoughts coming your way too. Squirrely Jo > Well I am home and not cranky any more. Nurse was very sweet and > accepted my three pill bottles plus my very long list. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Ann |
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