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Mary Z - 07 Jul 2005 14:27 GMT
Looks like PacificnoCare may be purchased by United health care.
Check this out:
<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/07/07/BUG
PEDJU331.DTL&type=business
>

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Duckie - 07 Jul 2005 18:25 GMT
Well just great. We have them as secondary insurance
and I have yet to get them to pay for anything. My PCP
yesterday as me what insurance was available to us out
in CA and I told her at the moment the choice was
between United Health Care [BIGGG roll of her eyes] and
PacificNoCare. She just shook her head. ugh
Duckie

> Looks like PacificnoCare may be purchased by United health care.
> Check this out:
> <http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/07/07/BUG
PEDJU331.DTL&type=business
>
>
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Mary Z - 08 Jul 2005 00:48 GMT
>My PCP
>yesterday as me what insurance was available to us out
>in CA and I told her at the moment the choice was
>between United Health Care [BIGGG roll of her eyes] and
>PacificNoCare. She just shook her head. ugh

Well you will have plenty of chance to hone your letter writing
skills. Pacific no Care and I  became regular pen pals, I used to
dodge their phone calls in order to force them to put policy in
writing.  The good news is I usually wound up getting what I wanted if
I was ornery and persistent.

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Gwen Love - 08 Jul 2005 01:08 GMT
My supplemental insurance is with AARP and they use United Helth Care. I
have had absolutely no problem with them.
Gwen

> >My PCP
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Mary Z - 08 Jul 2005 03:26 GMT
>My supplemental insurance is with AARP and they use United Helth Care. I
>have had absolutely no problem with them.

May be true, but have you ever tried to get an unapproved experimental
treatment that costs about $30,000 to 40,000..... It will be
interesting. -- MZ

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Duckie - 08 Jul 2005 04:34 GMT
Well maybe you can get them to pay my acupuncture
appointments. They are suppose to. They claim they do.
They will not pay mine. Why I ask. We don't know this
doctor. What do you need to know.
his name, address, ss#, medical license number, phone.
It is on the form I sent you I reply. But we don't know
him they say. Well what do you need I say.......
He teaches at the biggest acupuncture school in the
area. We need -- see above...
6 months of this.. And frankly, I gave up. They wanted
him to agree to take pro-bono cases. They wanted him to
be in a medical group. Or make up any other idea you
can think of. I don't know. They would never tell us
exactly what they wanted from him.
It would have been only $25 per visit but still 25 is
25. But the stress was making me worse. All of this
makes me laugh as he charged under the going rate so he
didn't take insurance. But United Health Care was us
submitting bills to be reimbursed. Like my mother does
to Dupont to pay her drug bills. Good luck. I am not
looking forward to worrying over which bad choice to
make. I sure wish BCBS was still available to us.
Duckie

> My supplemental insurance is with AARP and they use United Helth Care. I
> have had absolutely no problem with them.
> Gwen
Mary Z - 08 Jul 2005 05:37 GMT
> They wanted him to
>be in a medical group. Or make up any other idea you
>can think of. I don't know. They would never tell us
>exactly what they wanted from him.

Oh that medical group BS!  I had such a horrible time with that
because my GP was in one medical group and my RD was in another and
they wanted them in only 1 group.  What a nightmare, I appealed won
then they lost the medical directors decision so I had  go through the
same BS and  resubmit a copy of the decision.  Gives me a hot flash
just thinking about it.  Then they would give me 1 referral  visit at
a time.  All the specialist visits required referrals from my GP. In
addition I  had to get 3 approvals,  one approval for the RD one for
the Remicade and one approval for the infusion services.  As soon as I
finished with one RD visit I had to start working on the next one.
Every time they would deny it,  or question it, and I would resubmit
the medical directors decision.  It is easier if they are in one
medical group  and they can give more than 1 referral visit at a time
so if you have to go with the HMO plan chose wisely.  One office would
tell me one story and the other office didn't have any record of it. A
nightmare. My Dr did say it was better after that year, I guess they
out sourced a bunch of stuff which is why I had to work with different
offices that didn't have a clue what the other office was doing.  So
hopefully they are better...  I can't imagine how they could have
gotten worse.  It makes my head ache just thinking about that year.  I
finally told them "you win I am leaving" then they gave me 2 referrals
which took me to the end of my insurance year and I switched back to
BCBS. I would get an adrenaline flash whenever I would see one of
their letters in my mailbox.  Uh oh.... what now.

Will your insurance plan be the HMO or the Preferred Provider type.
PPO might not be too bad.

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Duckie - 09 Jul 2005 01:43 GMT
Looks like United would be PPO and Pacificare would be HMO.
Turns out the Harvard Pilgrim HMO has paid everything
except my copays. John needs to wake up and smell the
flowers here. We pay nothing for my Remicade and
Nothing for that Rituxan. We pay a set amount on our
drugs depending on generic, or not which I think is 15,
20, 35. Dr. visits are 15 for PCP and eye doctor and 30
for everyone else. There is a copay for hospital stays
and copay for ER visits. That is it. Wish we could take
Harvard Pilgrim with us.
Duckie

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Mary Z - 09 Jul 2005 02:58 GMT
> We pay nothing for my Remicade and
>Nothing for that Rituxan. We pay a set amount on our
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>and copay for ER visits. That is it. Wish we could take
>Harvard Pilgrim with us.

Awesome!  An HMO that will pay for experimental treatments.... that is
amazing.  I will bet your rituxan treatments match your remicade
treatments in cost.   With that kind of coverage maybe it will match
with something in CA.  Usually PPO are much easier to deal with but
you do pay more.  Very tough choice.  Yep John will be in sticker
shock when he sees what most people pay or have to go through. -- MZ

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firechief - 07 Jul 2005 22:35 GMT
> Looks like PacificnoCare may be purchased by United health care.

Yes, I read that in this morning's business news.

Secure Horizons is another name used by PacificnoCare in California.

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