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A day late and a dollar short (long intro)

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Navy1 - 02 Jul 2005 15:35 GMT
Hi all,
I finally made it.  It took a email from Firechief and a temporary
fail-to-connect to my server, but here it is:

I live in Columbia, SC, on the Northeast side.  I was in the Air
National Guard here for about 8 years after three years in
the Navy Reserve in Los Angeles and Ann Arbor, Michigan.  I was in
aviation electronics in the Navy and the ANG.
I was out for a while from the ANG and then when I went back in - no
openings in electronics, so they put me in Munitions which was
extremely interesting and very helpful in my civilian job as I was a
tooling design engineer at the FN machine gun factory, here in
Columbia.  I just retired after 25 years (actual anniversary date
would have been in November, but I had some seizures in January and,
since the law wouldn't allow me to drive for six months and it would
have been difficult to get a ride to work, I went on medical leave for
three months and then retired.  I had a fantastic retirement dinner.  

They thought at work that I had had a stroke because my speech was
very slurred and my walk very wobbly.  Funny thing is, it didn't feel
that way to me! so I had no idea that anything was wrong.  The doctors
had a CAT scan, MRI, and EEG done.  They showed no damage from a
stroke, but did show that I had had the seizures.  They didn't know
why, but I had a good idea.  My youngest son was sent to Kuwait a week
before Christmas and also in December, my middle son was the victim of
an armed robbery.  Three men with sweat shirts and a gun accosted him
in his driveway and made him drive to his bank.  Since he didn't want
his fiancee coming out and possibly getting raped, he did everything
they said to do.  At the bank, they emptied his checking account which
was less than the maximum allowed in one day to be withdrawn.  So they
told him to put it in again and get the rest.  He cheerfully did that,
knowing the account was empty and the machine would eat the card!
Then they drove him out into the country somewhere on a dirt road
(near a freeway, as it turned out), told him to take off all his
clothes and shoes and socks and start running through the woods.  He
did so, but was sure he would get a bullet in the back.  They didn't
shoot, thank God, and he ran and came to the fence on a freeway.  He
was able to climb over and a truck driver saw him and had a spare pair
of pants.  He took him to a service station and they called the
police.  So, at 7:30, I get a call from him (he is 34 years old, but
I'm still Mommy when things like that happen).  He said, "First of
all, Mom, I'm all right!"  Well, being a parent, my first thought is
"all right from what?"  He had a lot of scratches and a little bit of
exposure (it was about 35-40 degrees), but, fortunately, didn't run
through any glass or metal.  The people at Emergency gave him a phone
number of a person experienced in post traumatic problems and he's
been going to him.  He coped with it quite well.
Anyhow, to continue the reason behind the seizures, I also had a big
work load as I was the only tooling designer they had - I did tools,
gages, and fixtures.  They had hired a coop student full time (coop
means they come to work part time while going to school) and he was
very intelligent and quick.  He picked up on things very quickly.  I
had already started training him to take over in November so I felt
comfortable turning it all over to him.

As to my health, I have arthritis in both knees, shoulders, and wrists
(which isn't surprising, considering 40 years on a drafting board!)  I
also have two pinched nerves in my back.  They aren't too bad unless I
do a lot of standing and calm down as soon as I get off my feet.  I
thank a pain specialist for the improvement I have in it.  I had
carpal tunnel in both wrists from trying to turn on (with the right
hand) a hose faucet;  the left one was caused by turning the blasted
thing off.  I could feel both wrists straining.  Luckily, they weren't
from the work at the computer as I did all my work on CAD on the
computer.  Then, last year, I also had implants put in my lower jaw -
they had to first do some bone grafting so I spent a lot of last year
in pain in various areas.  I think what I had in January was a nervous
breakdown.  My brain said enough is enough.  I will be 67 in October,
but am told I only look about 50+.

I am sure enjoying retirement.  I just started the Hyalgan shots in my
right knee last week.  I will have the second on Wednesday and the
third the following week.  I decided to try the shots because my
orthopedic doctor said the next step on fixing the pain in my knees
would be a TKR.  He did my mother's (at the age of 87!) last year.  I
also have neuropathy in both legs and feet (treated by Neuronton four
times a day) and essential tremor in left hand (treated by Xanax four
times a day).  I get cramps in both legs (avoided by B-100, Quinine,
and tonic water (2 ounces) a day).  As long as I take all the
medicines, I sail merrily along.  I am on Celebrex, 200 mg, twice a
day, for the arthritis.  I am also on Zoloft for depression.  I asked
my general practice doctor if there was anything on the list that he
thought I could get off (oh, also am taking Nexium and Gaviscon for
ulcers - which I didn't have on Bextra, darn, darn, darn) and he said
he didn't see anything, but I could see what happened if I cut back on
one of them at a time.  I did and symptoms all came back.  So, as long
as I don't get any side effects I can't handle, will stay on the
current list.  Surprisingly, the one effect from the seizures that I
didn't expect was a change in my vision - enough to require new
glasses.  Now, it is going back to what it was before, which means new
glasses again!  Oh, well.

Didn't mean to rattle on, but a little more personal information.
My youngest son is back from Kuwait and will be the head of security
on the Constitution (Old Ironsides) in Boston harbor.  He was in the
security department there before he went to Kuwait.  Thank goodness
for email, I heard from him a lot more often than I would have with
snail mail.

My husband, who died in 1994, was in the Marines for ten years and
then joined the Army from which he retired in 1975.  He was a
photographer.  He also taught it at the local community college.  They
made lots of trips to the zoo, etc.  After he died, I was cleaning out
his pictures.  He had 35 different poses of giraffes, 50 of an eagle
behind glass, etc!  

My mother lives with me and does all the driving for right now.  She
is 88 and just as alert and capable as she can be.  She also has
arthritis, but still manages to get around quite well.  July 25th,
car, here I come.

Anyhow, see y'all on A.S.A.
Loujean

Navy1
Retired for two months and love it, especially
those two hour breakfasts with the newspaper.
Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.
Kelly Cobb - 02 Jul 2005 15:57 GMT
Hi Loujean! Welcome back! Wow, what a history you have. Also a very
interesting life.

Do I understand correctly that you think the seizures are caused by stress?
Have you seen a neurologist? My daughter also has a seizure disorder, but
doesn't seem to have a problem with stressful situations. Everyone's
triggers are different, depending on seizure type, focus, etc. I hope this
is something you can overcome so you can get your license back.

That was quite an adventure for your son, and I really hope he doesn't
suffer any ill effect from the trauma he endured. I'm so glad things turned
out the way they did and he wasn't harmed.

I have to go make breakfast, but wanted to welcome you first. Have a great
holiday weekend.

Kelly C.

> Hi all,
> I finally made it.  It took a email from Firechief and a temporary
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> those two hour breakfasts with the newspaper.
> Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.
Navy1 - 02 Jul 2005 17:43 GMT
>Hi Loujean! Welcome back! Wow, what a history you have. Also a very
>interesting life.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Kelly C.

Thanks, Kelly,
Yes, I did see a neurologist.  I liked her very well.  She's the that
ordered the EEG.  I am on Trileptal (which I left out earlier!) :-)
and must stay on it.  She agreed with me and released me to my general
practitioner.  I didn't actually lose my license;  I just am not
allowed to drive until six months is up.  It's not on my license or
anything, but if I were involved in an accident and it was discovered
that I had had the seizures, it would automatically be assumed to be
my fault, so I am not going to push it.  I did think that my seizures
were caused by stress.  My brother has epilepsy and, for quite a
while, refused to take the medicine (left over flower child!).  So, he
would have blackouts.  After wrecking a couple of cars, and
fortunately not involving anyone else, he has gone on the medicine and
expects to be able to get his license back.  His was taken away from
him.  When I said that my vision had changed drastically, my
neurologist recommended a neuro-ophthalmologist to check my eyes.  He
checked everything and said there was no permanent damage apparent, so
he gave me a new prescription and I went to where I had gotten my
glasses last fall and got new lenses.  Then, this past month, I
noticed that distant items were getting soft and when I read, I had to
move the book closer to my face.  I went and made sure the glasses
were to spec and the ophthalmologist there said it looked like my
vision was returning to what it was before I had the seizures, so, new
lenses again.  Mom drove me up there this morning and I turned over my
frames to them.  The glasses will be ready this afternoon.  That's
life.

Hope you enjoyed breakfast.  My mom and I make our own breakfast, and
lunch is either peanut butter and jelly or left-overs.  Then we
alternate on who's going to make supper.  Sometimes neither one of us
wants to cook - so it's out for ribs, or order a pizza!  We get along
quite well.

Loujean
Navy1
Retired for two months and love it, especially
those two hour breakfasts with the newspaper.
Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.
Kelly Cobb - 02 Jul 2005 18:46 GMT
Loujean,

Rachel also takes Trileptal, but it didn't do the trick by itself, so the
neuro. added Keppra. That's been our miracle. Rach hasn't had a seizure in
over a year now. Hers is thought to be caused by encephalitis when she was
8. That was two years ago and the Dr. thinks she has a chance of growing out
of it. Even if she doesn't, we have learned so much from this experience and
met so many wonderful people.

I applaud your wise choice to wait out the six month waiting period to drive
again. No sense taking unnecessary chances. So, do your seizures originate
in the occipital lobe? Rachel's are left temporal, which was a concern for
awhile, as learning and retention can be a problem for people with this type
of epilepsy. Fortunately, she has overcome that obstacle did quite well this
year.

Kelly C.

> Thanks, Kelly,
> Yes, I did see a neurologist.  I liked her very well.  She's the that
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> those two hour breakfasts with the newspaper.
> Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.
Navy1 - 02 Jul 2005 21:02 GMT
Kelly,

I was so glad to read that Rachel seemed to be under control, after
what she and her family have gone through these past couple of years.
Yes, I must admit I've been lurking for quite a while.  There just
wasn't enough time to write before.  

I have no idea of where my seizures originated.  All I know is they
affected my speech, walking, and sight.  They didn't seem to have any
affect on small motor movements like gripping things with my hands.  I
never thought to ask what area they were in.  I do know that my memory
seems to be affected, also.  I used to watch Jeopardy (actually, we
still do) and knew more answers than the contestants.  Now, I know I
know it, but I can't bring it out right away.  Names seem to be the
worst.  My mathematics still seems to be there as does my spelling and
writing abilities.  My mother says it's because it's buried among all
those facts I've acquired over the years. :-0   It's coming back
slowly, but names and unusual words are still slow.  Anyhow, now I
understand fully the frustration people who have strokes and lose the
ability to talk even though they can think of what they are trying to
say.

So Rachel also had Encephalitis, my goodness.  What you have all been
through.  May God bless you and watch over you from now on.

Loujean
Retired for two months and love it.
Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.

>Loujean,
>
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>> those two hour breakfasts with the newspaper.
>> Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.
Gwen Love - 02 Jul 2005 19:34 GMT
Welcome Loujean.  I enjoyed reading your story, just sorry that you have
arthritis and need to be here.  I hope we can give you the support you need,
and your support of others will be appreciated.
Gwen

> Hi all,
> I finally made it.  It took a email from Firechief and a temporary
[quoted text clipped - 114 lines]
> those two hour breakfasts with the newspaper.
> Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.
Navy1 - 02 Jul 2005 20:50 GMT
>Welcome Loujean.  I enjoyed reading your story, just sorry that you have
>arthritis and need to be here.  I hope we can give you the support you need,
>and your support of others will be appreciated.
>Gwen

Thanks, Gwen,
It's fun writing to the people I've been reading letters to and from
for so long.  So far, my arthritis seems to be under control, knock on
wood.

Loujean
Navy1
Retired for two months and love it, especially
those two hour breakfasts with the newspaper.
Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.
Mary Z - 03 Jul 2005 00:04 GMT
>Anyhow, see y'all on A.S.A.

Welcome to ASA we are glad firechief encouraged you.  Hopefully we
will see you at our next gimpfest.  -- MZ

Visit my website:
http://www.mzuschlag.com
Navy1 - 03 Jul 2005 01:38 GMT
>>Anyhow, see y'all on A.S.A.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Visit my website:
>http://www.mzuschlag.com

Thanks for the invite.  Looked at your website.  It is very original
and well done.  I loved the bird song.  I lived in Arizona but never
got to Grand Canyon.  Isn't that always the story?  We did come close
one trip, but by the time we got there, just couldn't take any more
scenery.  We were always going to go tomorrow, but tomorrow never
came.  My husband has been gone for eleven years now, but it still
seems such a short time ago.  He died from a sudden heart attack.

I really liked Yuma where we lived.  The sunsets were just gorgeous
and worth the smell of dust and melons.  The last time I looked at the
web pages for Yuma showed a much increased size town that probably
doesn't resemble the one we lived in.  Of course, that was 1960!
Since then, I've been to Los Angeles, Michigan, Germany, back to Los
Angeles, and to my final home Columbia SC.  We live on the east side
of town and most of the storms go to the west of the town or the east
of us down the freeway.  We still get an appreciable amount of rain.
My dog is just as happy that we don't get any more of the noise than
we do.

I have three sons.  My baby has three children, and my oldest has one.
The one in the middle is just getting around to getting married.

Now that I'm retired, I hope to be able to put up a web site, too.  I
will publish all of my poems.  I have had a couple selected by the
World of Poetry.  This is one of the ones I wrote shortly after my
husband died in September 1994:

        SHATTERING STONE
        Stone in the water,
        Ripples in the stream,
        Flowers on the bank,
        Fish in sunlight's gleam;
        All affected by the stone
        That shattered my life's dream.
         
        Loujean M Baker
        29 October 1994

I've written quite a few.  So, folks, encourage me to go and do it!

Loujean

Navy1
Retired and love it.
Throw that FISH out and
put in an S to email me.
Gwen Love - 03 Jul 2005 12:31 GMT
Loujean, I love your poem.  By all means, write more.
Gwen

> >>Anyhow, see y'all on A.S.A.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> Throw that FISH out and
> put in an S to email me.
Harvey R. Stone - 03 Jul 2005 15:05 GMT
> Loujean, I love your poem.  By all means, write more.
> Gwen

And a me too.   Really well done.
Harv
Squirrely - 04 Jul 2005 01:38 GMT
Loujean, welcome to the group. Sorry you have to be here though.

Boy you sure have alot going on don't you.

Glad you are enjoying retirement. I hope things go well for you.

Thinking of you and your family.

Signature

Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> Loujean, I love your poem.  By all means, write more.
> Gwen
Navy1 - 04 Jul 2005 21:39 GMT
Thanks,
Yes, there is a lot on my plate, but, so far, under control (shhhh).
Loujean

>Loujean, welcome to the group. Sorry you have to be here though.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Thinking of you and your family.

Navy1
Retired and love it.
Throw that FISH out and
put in an S to email me.
firechief - 04 Jul 2005 07:14 GMT
Loujean wrote:

> I really liked Yuma where we lived.  The sunsets were just
> gorgeous and worth the smell of dust and melons.  The last
> time I looked at the web pages for Yuma showed a much
> increased size town that probably doesn't resemble the one
> we lived in.  Of course, that was 1960!

Stopped in Yuma in 1982 enroute to Raton, NM.

Attended a Square Dance Festival in Yuma in 1989 and
couldn't get over how green it had become.  Then passed
through in 1991 enroute to Phoenix and was amazed at
the cotton "plantations" that had sprung up to the east.
Wisps of cotton were floating across the Interstate.

Mary and I attended the square dance festival there this
year....and were surprised at how big the town has become.
Navy1 - 04 Jul 2005 14:03 GMT
> Loujean wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Mary and I attended the square dance festival there this
> year....and were surprised at how big the town has become.

Alas, how the simple have disappeared.  I remember we would go
to the bank on Friday to drop off our paychecks and the teller would
say "Mel, would you like to sign the check you used at the grocery
store?"  I'll wager that doesn't happen much anywhere now.  The
other thing I remember is how warm the outside pools were.

Navy1
Retired and love it.
Throw that FISH out and
put in an S to email me.
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 03 Jul 2005 12:39 GMT
Loujean, welcome to ASA! Whew! I'll think of your story whenever I start to
feel I have a lot on my plate.  You will be a welcome addition to our little
family here.  Pull up a chair, have a margarita (or pepsi) and relax for a
while.

DeeTee
________________________________
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http://www.marykay.com/dtaggart3
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________________________________
> Hi all,
> I finally made it.  It took a email from Firechief and a temporary
[quoted text clipped - 114 lines]
> those two hour breakfasts with the newspaper.
> Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.
Ashley - 03 Jul 2005 16:16 GMT
> Loujean, welcome to ASA! Whew! I'll think of your story whenever I
> start to feel I have a lot on my plate.  You will be a welcome addition
> to our little family here.  Pull up a chair, have a margarita (or
> pepsi) and relax for a while.
>
> DeeTee

DeeTee, really, are we always going to disagree on coke vs pepsi?! LOL,
**ducks & runs**

Loujean, WELCOME! Everytime DeeTee offers you a pepsi, I know where I
stashed the Diet Coke behind the bar, seeing as I'm still the baby
around here and our beloved bartender that passed away will turn in his
grave if I have a margarita before I turn 21! I miss Larry.

Anyways, welcome!

-Ashley  (who is up way to early because she's being a good girl and
going to church this morning)

=========
~~AC.
http://ashleyc.livejournal.com
Navy1 - 03 Jul 2005 16:23 GMT
>> Loujean, welcome to ASA! Whew! I'll think of your story whenever I
>> start to feel I have a lot on my plate.  You will be a welcome addition
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>~~AC.
>http://ashleyc.livejournal.com

Sorry, DeeTee, I really prefer Coke.  Thanks Ashley, but can't take
the aspartame in the Diet Coke, so have gone to Dr Pepper with the
sugar, I'm afraid.  I just weigh every morning and if my weight  has
gone up and the weather isn't real heavy and humid, I do without the
Dr Pepper that day. LOL

Loujean

I won't grow up;
Jim Henson never did;
And look at all the wonder
He gave each and every kid.

Loujean M Baker
5 July 1992

Navy1
Retired and love it.
Throw that FISH out and
put in an S to email me.
Ashley - 03 Jul 2005 17:57 GMT
> Sorry, DeeTee, I really prefer Coke.  Thanks Ashley, but can't take
> the aspartame in the Diet Coke, so have gone to Dr Pepper with the
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Navy1
> Retired and love it. Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.

Now that just makes me sad. I couldn't live without my diet coke...
it's like water to me. My boyfriend introduced me to diet coke made
with splenda and that's pretty good too, if you don't like aspartame. I
never understood what the hype about it was... is it supposed to be bad
for you?

--Ashley

=========
~~AC.
http://ashleyc.livejournal.com
Navy1 - 04 Jul 2005 01:50 GMT
>> Sorry, DeeTee, I really prefer Coke.  Thanks Ashley, but can't take
>> the aspartame in the Diet Coke, so have gone to Dr Pepper with the
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>~~AC.
>http://ashleyc.livejournal.com

It upsets my stomach horribly.  I've wanted to try the one with
Splenda and will try to remember to put it on the list for groceries.
Thanks for the reminder.

Loujean

Navy1
Retired and love it.
Throw that FISH out and
put in an S to email me.
firechief - 04 Jul 2005 07:23 GMT
> if you don't like aspartame. I never understood what the
> hype about it was... is it supposed to be bad for you?

EVERYTHING is bad for you at some level on intake.

It has now been proven that even pure,crystal-clear water
in those highly over-priced bottles can KILL at times, such
as marathon, 5-K, 10K races.

... Cabbage:  The age of a taxi.
Navy1 - 04 Jul 2005 14:01 GMT
>> if you don't like aspartame. I never understood what the
>> hype about it was... is it supposed to be bad for you?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> in those highly over-priced bottles can KILL at times, such
> as marathon, 5-K, 10K races.

Actually, if the water is too pure, doesn't it mean that you won't get
some of the trace minerals etc that you need?  It's for sure that it
will kill your budget!  :-)

>... Cabbage:  The age of a taxi.

Navy1
Retired and love it.
Throw that FISH out and
put in an S to email me.
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 03 Jul 2005 19:49 GMT
> DeeTee, really, are we always going to disagree on coke vs pepsi?! LOL,
> **ducks & runs**

Probably, LOL.  You can drink whatever you want, honey, but you know what
I'll be drinking!
Hugs, DeeTee
________________________________
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________________________________
Cindy - 04 Jul 2005 16:23 GMT
Just wanted to say hello and offer a huge hug...
You have been through the ringer and then some...
Glad that both of your sons are safe and doing well...
Also glad that you are coming back from the seizures...
Must have been very scarey for you and your mom...
How nice to be living with your Mom and looking after each other.
Hugs and Prayers.
Cindy
> Hi all,
> I finally made it.  It took a email from Firechief and a temporary
[quoted text clipped - 114 lines]
> those two hour breakfasts with the newspaper.
> Throw that FISH out and put in an S to email me.
Navy1 - 04 Jul 2005 18:17 GMT
Thanks, Cindy,
Actually, I have three sons.  The oldest one was a police officer here
in Columbia and then in Myrtle Beach.  After too many were getting
shot and the hours were horrible, he left the police force and is now
a repair department manager at Best Buy.  He loves his job.  He has a
wife and one stepdaughter.  

I am so excited.  Did I say that my youngest and all three kids and
his wife are coming in Thursday evening sometime.  They will leave on
Saturday morning.  There will be a 3 year old angel (huh! anyhow she
looks like one) and a seven year old and a 14 year old, the latter two
boys.  I love to be living with my Mom and we do look after each
other.  We also have lots of fun together.
Thanks for the prayers.  Hugs and prayers back to you.
Loujean

>Just wanted to say hello and offer a huge hug...
>You have been through the ringer and then some...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Hugs and Prayers.
>Cindy

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