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Question about Enbrel and Sinus Drainage cruds

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sageladyone@yahoo.com - 25 Jun 2005 03:03 GMT
Hello all, been a few years since I've posted here.  I've switched from
MTX to Enbrel.  Just had my 2nd shot this week.  Bless my little
sinuses, they've decided to run like a faucet this week after the
pressure came last week.  No fever, asthma is acting up (our air
quality is at a high orange/red) so I'm coughing, no crackles.
Drinking lots of fluids and popping vitamin C's like candy.  What
worried me is that a co-worker who is 6 weeks into Enbrel just went
from bronchitis to pnuemonia this week...really quickly.  Any
suggestions?  My plans are to keep the fluids up to keep the lungs
clear and rest.  I did have the week from hades at work this week which
I'm sure REALLY helped matters.  
Sage
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 25 Jun 2005 03:18 GMT
> Hello all, been a few years since I've posted here.  I've switched from
> MTX to Enbrel.  Just had my 2nd shot this week.  Bless my little
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> I'm sure REALLY helped matters.
> Sage

Just to be on the safe side, you should probably see your PCP, to make
sure it isn't viral or bacterial.  Wish I'd done it when my "allergies"
started acting up.  After getting a sinus infection (oh joy), then
strep throat (great), and ending up with a "light" case of pneumonia
(really?  What's a light case?  I can only partially breathe unaided?).
If I'd gone down and seen my doc I probably could have avoided the
last two, or at least caught them in time.

Three weeks without Enbrel sucked major.  Seems to be better now.  BTW,
I never did have a fever, scary innit?

Smokie Darling (Annie)
Harvey R. Stone - 25 Jun 2005 13:40 GMT
>> Hello all, been a few years since I've posted here.  I've switched from
>> MTX to Enbrel.  Just had my 2nd shot this week.  Bless my little
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> Smokie Darling (Annie)

  I have also had the no fever with major lung congestion and I have had
problems with my sinuses.  I do not blame Enbrel (3 years or so).   It is a
good suggestion to get your PCP involved.   Enbrel does control our immune
system and we HAVE to have that but it means that other things can cause us
problems.
Harv
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 25 Jun 2005 15:17 GMT
> >> Hello all, been a few years since I've posted here.  I've switched from
> >> MTX to Enbrel.  Just had my 2nd shot this week.  Bless my little
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> problems.
> Harv

Hi Harv -

The weird thing, even by the doctors standards was that I had no fever
with the Strep (the "quick" culture was positive, the longer one was
too).

I honestly thought that my allergies had gotten out of hand, since DH's
did the same thing the week prior.

It was just so scary how it went from runny nose to full blown, nearly
dead (something ridiculous like 5 days).

I don't blame the Enbrel either, and would dearly have to loved to have
stayed on it, but all the docs basically said they'd come to my home
and break my legs (joking, I think) if I continued my shots.

Got to do my shot this week, and again noticed improvement within 24
hours.  Gotta love that stuff.

Smokie Darling (Annie)< <who almost always seems to have a runny nose
and cough.
Harvey R. Stone - 26 Jun 2005 03:31 GMT
Hi Annie,    I wish I could say that I understood what is taking place with
the "no fever" and things like walking Pneumonia ,,,, sinus infection ,,,,
and such.   Fever is a good thing if it does not get too high.  I remember
and old doctor I had that fussssed at me about taking an aspirin every time
I had a little fever or head ache.  He would say,,,, let your body do its
job.  He said for me to take aspirin if something lasts more than three
days....   ????   I do not know if that is good or not.  He was kind of set
in his ways but a good hearted old guy.   He gave me my glucometer when we
realized that I had a problem with sugar.   I found out a couple of years
later that it was about 50 dollars worth of tester and supplies.   He was
closing out his practice and I still use it today.
   Sorry,,, my mind is wandering today.

Harv

> Hi Harv -
>
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> Smokie Darling (Annie)< <who almost always seems to have a runny nose
> and cough.
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 26 Jun 2005 06:32 GMT
> Hi Annie,    I wish I could say that I understood what is taking place with
> the "no fever" and things like walking Pneumonia ,,,, sinus infection ,,,,
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>
> Harv

Ah, let your mind wander Harv.  I enjoy reading you when you are like
that, and even when you aren't.  Good Lord, does that make any sense?

My docs always said if the fever lastes more than 2 days to take
something for it, but anymore, I don't seem to get a fever (strep
throat should have produced something), or if I do it goes through the
roof (105).

Smokie Darling (Annie)

> > Hi Harv -
> >
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> > Smokie Darling (Annie)< <who almost always seems to have a runny nose
> > and cough.
sageladyone@yahoo.com - 26 Jun 2005 19:39 GMT
Thanks, it's still hanging on.  Spent time yesteray on the river
kayaking (can't keep me away joints or not) to get away from the heat
and yuck in the city.  It's not terribly bad but very noticeable.  I'll
call my pcp tomorrow and probably get a script for some abx.  I hate
taking them.  Patiently waiting for the enbrel to do it's remarkable
thing.

I got up to 17.5 on injectable mtx and then couldn't find it for love
or money anywhere here.  It's availble for chemo use but not for
outpatient pharmacies.  I checked with a hospital pharmacist a while
back.  Can't do the pills so we had planned on adding enbrel anyway
since the mtx wasn't holding me anymore.  Bummer.  I'd trade the
morning after feeling of the mtx for this crap any day of the week.

I just hope it's a passing summer cold/sinus/bad weather fluke than the
enbrel.  Just seems to reason since there's no fever just the
congestion and drainage plus my asthma is horrible too.  MTX was great
for that.  Was able to stop using all my inhalers for the past three
years while I was on it.  Back to those again now.  Sigh.

Sage
 
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