Cox 2s vs trad NSAIDs

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diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 10 Jun 2005 11:55 GMT

Well folks, it's all over the media in the UK today.

Published in the British Medical Journal. - Traditional NSAIDs also
have cardiac risks. - Like diclofenac can increase your risk by up to
55%

Fancy that ! I have been 55% more likely to have a heart attack using
diclofenac these last 20 odd years - and nobody told me before now! All
that fuss in the 1970 s when, without good reason, they withdrew the
one drug that put me in remission (Flenac). One wonders how we have
survived ?

OK so who started all this and how valid is this great fuss. To what
extent is this stuff pharmaceutical politics ? To what degree are the
PCTs taking the opportunity to cut down on costs by failing to
recommend COX 2s (both UK and US).

I smell a rat or rats somewhere along the line

Peter

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spodosaurus - 10 Jun 2005 14:11 GMT

> Well folks, it's all over the media in the UK today.
>
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> Peter

If the press don't have something to tell you to 'fear for your life!'
about...who would tune in or read the papers? *grin* It's why reading
the media reports regarding health matters is a love hate relationship
for me: sometimes I appreciate the heads-up regarding something new (or
purportedly new, more often than not) but I really despise their
inability to understand the science that goes in (or is lacking) in
these studies. They just don't have the background to be consumers of
scientific research, and if they don't even understand it the version
we're getting from them is going to be twisted indeed.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Thank you all for allowing me to rant (I know I know: AGAIN) about the
absurdities of scientific reporting and critique in the popular media.

Cheers,

Ari

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diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 10 Jun 2005 14:46 GMT

Yes Ari

I shudder at some of the mistakes, misquotes and downright ignorance of
some of the media people when writing/talking about scientific matters.

Peter

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Mike-UK - 10 Jun 2005 22:44 GMT

On Jun 10, diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk posted:

> Yes Ari
>
> I shudder at some of the mistakes, misquotes and downright ignorance of
> some of the media people when writing/talking about scientific matters.

JUST scientific matters then? ;\

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Nicole H - 14 Jun 2005 02:07 GMT

My doctors have told me that nsaids only increase your cardiac risks if
you're already at risks.... high blood pressure, cardiac problems, stroke
risk, etc.
Said there were no worries as long as I was monitored (I have low blood
pressure) and my bp stayed low. Both have said that the heart attacks have
been in patients with high blood pressure and taking a much higher dose than
recommended.

the news is there to tell partial truths and to scare the public... don't
give it much credit.
take care

> Well folks, it's all over the media in the UK today.
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> Peter

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Harvey R. Stone - 14 Jun 2005 16:22 GMT

> My doctors have told me that nsaids only increase your cardiac risks if
> you're already at risks.... high blood pressure, cardiac problems, stroke
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> give it much credit.
> take care

Well said,,,, with a good heart system,,,, they do what they say they will
do including give you an ulcer or make one worse. My TB medicine does
the same thing in a way,,,, makes my blood pressure higher, sugar readings
higher,,,, drives my family doctor nuts and he thinks he should increase or
change my medicines to bring things back to normal..... Normal may happen
when the TB medicine is stopped,,, then what am I going to do with all the
prescriptions sitting here???? So it goes.
Harv

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