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elleninda - 06 Jun 2005 05:46 GMT
For the arthritis part of my problem, I need a phone that has a speaker
phone. I have two such phones right now, one corded and one cordless.
It is getting harder to understand what people are saying and I finally
realized that maybe the problem isn't the phones, but that my hearing
isn't as good as it used to be. I am 64 years old.
Most phones add so many bells and whistles that I don't need and the
price goes up for features I don't really want. I just want a
speakerphone with clear, easy to understand sound. I was hoping to find
what I want for under $100. So far I have found two phones that sound
like they would work. Both cost over $100. The Panasonic KX-TG2386B is
a cordless phone, voice enhanced and sound amplified with
speakerphone.
The ClearSounds 40XLC is a little cheaper. It is a corded phone with
speech amplification and speakerphone. I know Panasonic makes reliable
products. I never heard of ClearSounds before.
My questions: Can anyone tell me about either product? Does anyone know
of a reliable phone with speakerphone and easy to understand sound for
under $100?
Thank you in advance for any advice.
Ellen
firechief - 06 Jun 2005 06:48 GMT
Ellen wrote:

> For the arthritis part of my problem, I need a phone that has a
> speaker phone. I have two such phones right now, one corded
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> and easy to understand sound for under $100?
> Thank you in advance for any advice.

I obtained a FREE corded phone from the state, after a
doctor filled out a form that every doctor should have a
supply of.

There is a tax on every phone bill, every month, to fund
this program.  There is no income qualification.

On my phone, the bell volume and speech volume and
tone are adjustable.  It has a 10-number memory and BIG
push buttons.  It's not a speaker phone, but I can hear
every word every caller speaks, which is not possible
with any other phone.

So, check about this availability in your state.  It may
be nation-wide because of ADA, although my mother
had one long before ADA became law.  Possibly it's
nation-wide under some FCC R&R.

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Jo Firey - 06 Jun 2005 07:27 GMT
> Ellen wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> had one long before ADA became law.  Possibly it's
> nation-wide under some FCC R&R.

Just want to add that the phone supplied thru the state program is also
better quality than any you are likely to find in the stores.

Jo
Carole - 06 Jun 2005 08:12 GMT
I just ordered a Motorola MD681 5.8GHz Cordless Speakerphone w/Answering
System from Amazon.com for $79.88 and then it has a $30 rebate. It has a
speakerphone both in the base and the handset. It also has volume
controls. I can't vouch for it's clearness yet, but I read a lot of
reviews and people said it was a great phone. That's why I bought it. My
friends are always telling me they can't hear me on the phone I have now
(which is about 4 years old). I should receive it in a few days so I can
let you know how well it works. The price was great, that's why I got
it, but you have to buy it before 6/30 to get the rebate. I'll give a
full review when it gets here :)

Carole

> For the arthritis part of my problem, I need a phone that has a speaker
> phone. I have two such phones right now, one corded and one cordless.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Thank you in advance for any advice.
> Ellen
Walt Hanks - 06 Jun 2005 11:24 GMT
> For the arthritis part of my problem, I need a phone that has a speaker
> phone. I have two such phones right now, one corded and one cordless.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Thank you in advance for any advice.
> Ellen

Ellen, my wife is a Professor of Audiology, so I checked with her on this.
She said that the ClearSounds brand is not known for providing quality sound
and does not recommend it.  She suggested that you visit an audiology
program that maintains an Assistive Listening Device center.

Most university based audiology programs have one, as do many state school's
for the deaf.  If you let me know where you live, she'll try to find one for
you.  If you are in the DC area, she would be happy to see you at Gallaudet.

The benefit of an ALD center is that they can get you a phone that is
matched to your hearing loss.  They can also work through state programs to
help with funding, and you can try it out right at the center.

Let me know if we can help in any way.

Walt Hanks
janers - 06 Jun 2005 19:08 GMT
There is a site called
www.hearmore.com, it is a site my audiologist sent me too.  You can get a
full size catalog free from them, if you like to look...

I had a walker 400 but it just wasn't getting it for me, so I switched to a
clarity 435 with a booster on it.

I works pretty good but then again, sometimes it don't.  I use
amplification with clarity headset as well.
I also have an over the hearing aide adaptor for my cell phone, works
pretty good too.   Verizon set me up and with their LOUD ringers I get
along pretty good for hearing impaired person, who was told she should be
considered deaf..

thanks for listening LOL

janers
Jo Firey - 06 Jun 2005 21:32 GMT
> There is a site called
> www.hearmore.com, it is a site my audiologist sent me too.  You can get a
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>
> janers

I'm finding that since I got the cochlear implant, I can hear a lot on the
phone my using the speaker.  Two of our cordless phones have speaker phone
built in.  I think my cell phone does too, but haven't tried that yet.  I'm
having lots of fun.  I heard my Siamese cat meow at me for the first time in
years last week.  I had a nice conversation with him.  Charlie says Jake the
cat should be very happy now, that he has been getting up on the counter
every morning calling me all along.

Jo
Gwen Love - 06 Jun 2005 22:33 GMT
Jo, I had wondered how you were doing with the implant.  So glad you are
beginning to hear.  Hope it will just keep on betting better and better.
Gwen

> > There is a site called
> > www.hearmore.com, it is a site my audiologist sent me too.  You can get a
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>
> Jo
Duckie - 06 Jun 2005 22:46 GMT
This is probably a stupid question but since I find it
harder to hear anyone on speaker phone, why if you
already have hearing issues would you want to use that
instead of a phone next to the ear itself.
And Jo -- so good to see you post about your success
with the implant.
Duckie

> I'm finding that since I got the cochlear implant, I can hear a lot on the
> phone my using the speaker.  Two of our cordless phones have speaker phone
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>
> Jo

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Jo Firey - 06 Jun 2005 23:17 GMT
> This is probably a stupid question but since I find it harder to hear
> anyone on speaker phone, why if you already have hearing issues would you
> want to use that instead of a phone next to the ear itself.
> And Jo -- so good to see you post about your success with the implant.
> Duckie

With the hearing aid I got feedback if I put a phone up to it.  With the
implant, the speaker creates a sound level that it is already set for.
Maybe at some future point one of the four available setting can be set for
phone use.  This thing is such a new model that I don't think all the
programs and accessories are even out yet.  It doesn't even have a storage
box yet.  I got the first of this model implanted in Northern California.

The web site talks about cables that give a direct connection to a computer
or TV or CD player.  But I'm guessing they don't want to overwhelm me with
too many things at once.

Jo
elleninda - 07 Jun 2005 06:05 GMT
Walt, thank you for the offer.
I appreciate the many suggestions offered here. I live in Phoenixville,
PA, which is near King of Prussia, an hour west of Philadelphia. I try
very hard to avoid doctors. I hate the long waits and they usually
don't have anything to offer me,  but  maybe in the area of hearing
loss they are more helpful than with RA. (This is just my experience, I
know some people with arthritis have been helped by doctors)
Ellen
Carole - 07 Jun 2005 10:40 GMT
> Walt, thank you for the offer.
> I appreciate the many suggestions offered here. I live in Phoenixville,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> know some people with arthritis have been helped by doctors)
> Ellen

I agree with the long waits for doctors. The last time I saw my doctor
in NYC, I had an appointment for 12noon and got to see him at 4:15. I
was livid. I have to say that out here in Washington, I have been
amazed. I see doctors all the time and I've never waited more than 5
minutes. I don't even bother taking a book anymore :)

Carole :)
Walt Hanks - 07 Jun 2005 11:56 GMT
> Walt, thank you for the offer.
> I appreciate the many suggestions offered here. I live in Phoenixville,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> know some people with arthritis have been helped by doctors)
> Ellen

Wendy (my wife) will call her friend at Children's today and get a
recommendation for you.

But, there are a couple of things you need to know:

First, Audiologists are not physicians and there is no need to see a
physician before seeing an audiologist.  If the audiologist feels you need a
medical evaluation, he or she will tell you so.

Second, untreated RA could be the cause of your hearing loss.  RA is a
serious disease that can shorten your life.  As much as you might dislike
doctors, I strongly urge you to find a rheumatologist you like and start
treatment.  Susan Hoch at Hanneman is one of the best there is.

I'll get back with the recommendation later today.

Walt
Harvey R. Stone - 07 Jun 2005 12:41 GMT
> Second, untreated RA could be the cause of your hearing loss.  RA is a
> serious disease that can shorten your life.  As much as you might dislike
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>
> Walt

The best of support and advice.   A person can be their own worst enemy.
RA must be controlled.   Hearing, voice, sight can all be involved with RA,
Pa, inflam.arth. as a whole AND IT takes an RD to do it best.
Harv
Jo Firey - 07 Jun 2005 18:10 GMT
> Walt, thank you for the offer.
> I appreciate the many suggestions offered here. I live in Phoenixville,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> know some people with arthritis have been helped by doctors)
> Ellen

Please, if you have any hearing left, remember hearing loss can be part and
parcel of RA.  It most likely caused mine.  A good DMARD might preserve the
hearing you have left for a while.

Walt, tell Wendy I got the new "Cochlear Freedom" implant.  Its really nice.
And will be better once my audiologist and I both learn how it works.  I can
hear the TV in the bedroom.  Cannot hear the TV in the family room, but get
every crackle if someone is eating a bag of chips.

Jo

Jo
d'huit - 08 Jun 2005 01:42 GMT
...
 Cannot hear the TV in the family room, but get
> every crackle if someone is eating a bag of chips.
>
> Jo

delightedly LOL!  does the sound give you the munchies?<vwg>  i'm loving
your progress with your new implant, jo.

kate

> Jo
Harvey R. Stone - 08 Jun 2005 02:09 GMT
>> Jo
>
> delightedly LOL!  does the sound give you the munchies?<vwg>  i'm loving
> your progress with your new implant, jo.
>
> kate

Oh yes,,,, you can feel the joy of hearing the cat,,,ect.  I just love it.
It is like doing the stairs after a steroid shot,,,,, because you can.

Harv
Nann Bell - 08 Jun 2005 05:40 GMT
> Walt, tell Wendy I got the new "Cochlear Freedom" implant.  Its really nice.
> And will be better once my audiologist and I both learn how it works.  I can
> hear the TV in the bedroom.  Cannot hear the TV in the family room, but get
> every crackle if someone is eating a bag of chips.

here I am, a couple of thousand miles away, and I am so excited to read your
words about how your hearing is improving day by day with the implant.  The
excitement must be overwhelming for you and your family!  Hoping for many
happy days with your implant!

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Jo Firey - 08 Jun 2005 06:57 GMT
>> Walt, tell Wendy I got the new "Cochlear Freedom" implant.  Its really
>> nice.
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> excitement must be overwhelming for you and your family!  Hoping for many
> happy days with your implant!

It is a truly strange mixture of excitement, apprehension, delight,
frustration, etc.

Tomorrow is my final surgeon visit, once cleared, I can get back on my MTX
that part of me has been really missing.  (The rest of me is going to miss
the Vanilla Martini's I've been having instead)

Jo
Nann Bell - 08 Jun 2005 13:35 GMT
> It is a truly strange mixture of excitement, apprehension, delight,
> frustration, etc.
>
> Tomorrow is my final surgeon visit, once cleared, I can get back on my MTX
> that part of me has been really missing.  (The rest of me is going to miss
> the Vanilla Martini's I've been having instead)

heehee, well you can still have them occasionally!  (one of the glories of
dropping Arava is that I can now drink something a *little* more often - but
I keep waiting for the right occasion!  If our current afternoon heat holds
much longer, a cold one of those beers Mike just bought might be in my
future.........

what a mix of feelings you are having to deal with through this - my hat's
off to you!  

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