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Gwen Love - 04 Jun 2005 00:45 GMT
My highest one game score was 154--3 games straight were 107,106 & 101.
This one has really hooked me!
Gwen

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d'huit - 04 Jun 2005 02:56 GMT
> My highest one game score was 154--3 games straight were 107,106 & 101.
> This one has really hooked me!
> Gwen

LOL!  you're so cute.

kate
Duckie - 04 Jun 2005 18:16 GMT
I have never figured out how to make any of those
bowling games work. My high on one game [never played
again] was 28. lol  That was my real score as well when
we actually bowled. That was before I knew it shouldn't
hurt to hold a bowling ball. And it was before I knew I
had RA. Had it just didn't know it.
Duckie

> My highest one game score was 154--3 games straight were 107,106 & 101.
> This one has really hooked me!
> Gwen

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d'huit - 05 Jun 2005 00:31 GMT
>I have never figured out how to make any of those bowling games work. My
>high on one game [never played again] was 28. lol  That was my real score
>as well when we actually bowled. That was before I knew it shouldn't hurt
>to hold a bowling ball. And it was before I knew I had RA. Had it just
>didn't know it.
> Duckie

ouch!  i guess it would hurt!  i wish you had had somebody coaching you who
knew how to help you.

in my senior year of high school, i had a boyfriend (fiance who i didn't
marry, obviously<smile>) who never bowled under a 180 game.  he originally
taught me to bowl.  we both loved it so much that the night of our senior
prom the four of us (two couples) went bowling in our gowns and tuxedoes.
my own average back then was around 170+ with a personal high game of 297.

when i married butch, i didn't know that he loved bowling too.  i probably
didn't ask cuz i hadn't bowled since my wreck and was held together by metal
and knew there were more surgeries ahead of me.

when alex was 5, i suggested we put alex into pee wee league.  turned out
the stinker loved it too (and then butch joined a men's league).  rocky, the
owner of the lanes, watched me coach alex each week (unbeknownst to me) and
after awhile asked if i wanted to coach the rest of the kids to bowl.

i told rocky i'd love to be able to, but couldn't bowl anymore because of my
injuries and stuff.  i knew he could see i had a bad limp.  he said he could
tell by what i was having alex do that i used to bowl and had been probably
a decent bowler.  but he floored me when he said he didn't believe i
couldn't bowl anymore.  one day, rocky took me aside after kids' leagues and
fitted me with a ten pound ball off the rack.  told me to go for it, to see
if he could help me make adjustments to accommodate my body damage.  it took
several games of mostly gutter balls, my backup ball was then fierce--a
severe backwards hook, before rocky found the right spot for me to stand,
retaught me a new 3 step approach (instead of my old 5) the right spot for
me to throw over and the right position for my hand and elbow, so i wouldn't
hurt myself and worked on my timing.  then, my first real game after that
was just over a 100.  that was all i needed to start getting me consistant.
i was getting better consistantly at around 120 when rocky decided that what
was holding me back was that i was using balls that were too light and not
drilled for my needs.

next thing i knew, rocky fitted me with an old 15 pound alley ball (which i
thought i'd kill myself with.LOL).  he filled the finger holes, drilled it
for my righthandedness, but drilled it so that it was weighted for a
lefthanded bowler, to compensate for my bad reverse hook.  that ball got my
average to 140--the national average for women---(mainly because he let me
practice all i wanted to for 25 cents a line, when leagues weren't bowling.
i'd bowl anywhere from 12 to 20 games in a row, almost everyday, from the
first time he worked with me until i got my average up.)  then rocky asked
me again if i wanted to coach.  said i'd love to give it a shot, because i
then felt i could "show and not just tell" kids what to do. (by then butch's
schedule was such that he was free on weekends and butch wanted to coach
kids.)

so, then rocky sent us both to YABBA university on weekends.LOL  yep,
bowling school for coaches.<smile>  we both learned stuff we already knew
about the game, but better than that, we learned how to coach kids with all
kinds of disabilities.  who knew there were bolsters for the gutters for
blind people?  who knew people in wheelchairs could bowl?  and people on
crutches?  and we also learned to teach downs kids, add kids, kids with all
kinds of disabilities.  learned about all kinds of hand and arm braces
(ankle and knee braces too) and bowling gloves to help kids bowl.  how to
tell if a kid's ball was too light or too heavy.  how to spot back problems
in kids and help them adjust for that.  how to spot weak joints and what to
do to compensate.  how to tell if the fit of the ball was wrong for a kids
hand and lots of other stuff.  we even learned how to teach kids to sit down
on the lanes and just push the ball properly over the right spot to hit
pins.

with my average finally at national women's levels, i bought a new ball, had
rocky fit and drill it for me and i joined a woman's league and coached kids
for over ten years.  it was fun knowing your disabilities didn't have to
stop you from bowling.  when i hit my first 200 game (after my wreck and
because of rocky's help and encouragement), rocky had a special trophy made
for me.  not a league trophy, even though i bowled it on league.  it was
waay sweet.  "secoma lanes' favorite most improved bowler '88" and he and
his wife gave it to me in private.  i still boohoo when i think about it.
there were other trophies for league bowling---getting those kinds of things
in public always embarrassed me.  i didn't keep them.  actually, i recycled
them for the kids, by having new brass plates engraved for them.  but i kept
that one even though it somehow got broken.

kate

>> My highest one game score was 154--3 games straight were 107,106 & 101.
>> This one has really hooked me!
>> Gwen
Carole - 05 Jun 2005 02:23 GMT
I'd LOVE to go bowling again! I always loved it and when I lived in NYC
I used to go all the time with friends. We'd bowl on a Sunday afternoon
and then go to Sizzler (which was next door) for dinner :)

When I was moving out here to Washington, there was only so much room in
my car. One of my friends and I started joking about the bowling ball. I
said there is no way I'm going to ship it (too expensive and I had
already shipped 30 boxes to my friend's house). And there was only so
much room in the car, and the trunk had to house my computer, printer,
scanner, breakables that I wouldn't dare ship, my sewing machine,
keyboard, etc. Plus I had to have room for the things I'd need along the
cross country tip and my clothes. So I put the bowling ball with the
garbage.  Then I felt bad so I went and got it back.

The night that I finally got the car all packed, there was no room for
the bowling ball and a few other things. So I figured it had to go and
once again set it near the garbage. Well, then my best friend called me
and asked me how I was doing and I told her there was no way I was
getting everything in. She said "I'll be over in ten minutes". She came,
and rearranged everything in the trunk and back seat and lo and behold
there was room for the bowling ball! So she went and got it, fitted it
into a space that was there, and said "Voila!"  We both laughed so hard
that we were in tears!

The next day I was on the road and called my other friend who I'd been
making the jokes with about the ball. She said "So where is the bowling
ball? Rolling down the street where you used to live?"  I said "Nope,
it's with me right behind the driver's seat!"  To this day we laugh
about my bowling ball. It's now in the closet and I'm hoping that one
day I can find someone to bowl with. I have a bowling alley right near
me and games are only .99 during the day. PERFECT for me. Just don't
know if I can do it with the energy level problem, but if I took long
breaks between throws I might just manage it :)

Carole :)
d'huit - 05 Jun 2005 04:10 GMT
> I'd LOVE to go bowling again! I always loved it and when I lived in NYC I
> used to go all the time with friends. We'd bowl on a Sunday afternoon and
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>
> Carole :)

yep.  you sure loved bowling, to go through all that just to keep your ball
:-)  w0w, 99 cents a line is a good deal these days!  maybe you can still
bowl, kiddo.

how heavy is your ball, carole?  if it's 10 pounds or more, set it aside for
awhile.  peewee league bowling balls were 6 and 8 pounds and are often used
by women.  if you don't know how to hand-size the grip (knuckles dead center
of the holes) of an alley ball, ask somebody at the desk to help you.

seriously, you'll need to start with the lightest weight possible/available
to build yourself up, because you will be using other muscles that you are
not accustomed to using while bowling.  (in regular bowling, we use "back
neutral position".)

i was thinking that if you don't have any weight lifting restrictions (check
with your cardiologist about that and about modified bowling, as i will be
explaining it) and if your ball is light enough, you could learn to bowl by
standing in one spot on the approach.  or better still, you can bowl while
seated in a regular chair on the approach, which is where i'd probably start
you to conserve leg energy and breath.    the chair has to be one with feet
that won't damage the approach, approved and/or provided by the house.
learning how to bowl from a seated position can be tricky, because the
tendancy is to lean with the ball.  you start with the lightest weight ball
so that if you don't break that habit of leaning right away, you won't hurt
your back.  with a chair, you pendulum swing twice, without a high back-arc,
and release the ball on the second swing.  your release point will be at
your side, before it gets to your knee and not out in front of you, but your
hand still has to follow through after the release.  it takes practice, but
it definitely can be done.  as you become stronger, you can extend your
release point, but not to the point where you loft the ball.  if you loft,
bring your release point back.

we had to actually do all that kind of bowling during our yabba training,
even bowl with our eyes closed so we could know what bowling for a blind
person felt like.  your local lanes' owner needs to know what your needs are
to be able to acommodate them.  hopefully, your local bowling establishment
has a caring owner like rocky.   many places do and that's very helpful.  i
hope your doctor lets you try it, carole.

kate
d'huit - 05 Jun 2005 07:00 GMT
LOL!  holy mangled syntax, batman!LOL  you don't swing the chair!LOL (but i
sure made it sound like you do!)

corrections---  while seated, you swing the ball, along the side of the
chair, in a pendulum fashion, twice.   do not attempt a high arc with the
ball during your backswing.

and, with your thumb in the thumb hole in the ball, spread your middle and
ring fingers over the other two holes.  the knuckles of those two fingers
should be dead center over their respective holes. ---all of that you
probably already knew.

"neutral spine position" is generally the correct form for normal bowling
technique.   modified bowling form, while seated, is "upright spine
position", without leaning to one side or the other.

when using the seated modified technique--the habit, of leaning towards the
ball while holding or swinging the ball along the side of the chair, is one
that is formed quickly and needs to be stopped/corrected right away.

geesh, somebody shoot me before i learn a second language and mangle that
one, too! LOL

kate

>> I'd LOVE to go bowling again! I always loved it and when I lived in NYC I
>> used to go all the time with friends. We'd bowl on a Sunday afternoon and
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>
> kate
Carole - 05 Jun 2005 21:14 GMT
Well, we both must be bananas because I knew what you were talking about
:))) LOL!!!!!!!

Carole

> LOL!  holy mangled syntax, batman!LOL  you don't swing the chair!LOL (but i
> sure made it sound like you do!)
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>
> kate
Carole - 05 Jun 2005 20:56 GMT
> yep.  you sure loved bowling, to go through all that just to keep your ball
> :-)  w0w, 99 cents a line is a good deal these days!  maybe you can still
> bowl, kiddo.

Yea, I do love it. So much so, that when I had to take physical
education in college I took bowling and archery (it was a half semester
of each). I would have liked a whole semester of bowling, but they
didn't offer it that way. I also had an uncle who was a professional
bowler and he taught me correct posture, etc.

> how heavy is your ball, carole?  if it's 10 pounds or more, set it aside for
> awhile.  

To be honest, I don't know :(  I don't think it says on the ball but
next time I venture into that closet, I'll take a look. I'd love to be
able to bowl again. I don't see the cardiologist until mid July but I
will ask him about it. Even if I had to sit and do it, it's better than
giving it up. And maybe there is a handicapped league out here that I
could join. I could make some new friends :)

Thanks, Kate!

Hugs,
Carole :)
Carole - 05 Jun 2005 21:14 GMT
> yep.  you sure loved bowling, to go through all that just to keep
your ball
> :-)  w0w, 99 cents a line is a good deal these days!  maybe you can
still
> bowl, kiddo.

Yea, I do love it. So much so, that when I had to take physical
education in college I took bowling and archery (it was a half semester
of each). I would have liked a whole semester of bowling, but they
didn't offer it that way. I also had an uncle who was a professional
bowler and he taught me correct posture, etc.

> how heavy is your ball, carole?  if it's 10 pounds or more, set it
aside for
> awhile.

To be honest, I don't know :(  I don't think it says on the ball but
next time I venture into that closet, I'll take a look. I'd love to be
able to bowl again. I don't see the cardiologist until mid July but I
will ask him about it. Even if I had to sit and do it, it's better than
giving it up. And maybe there is a handicapped league out here that I
could join. I could make some new friends :)

Thanks, Kate!

Hugs,
Carole :)
d'huit - 05 Jun 2005 01:27 GMT
ok.  here's a tip or two for this bowling game.  the color of the boards,
the dots themselves and the arrows are all guides for you.  start with a
black ball from the top rack, just cuz you don't have to concern yourself
with weight.

for strikes (and/or center pin spares) position the ball just to the left of
the center dot, just touching the brown boards.  make use of the dots to aim
the ball.  your goal is to get the ball to glide right over the arrow next
to and just to the left of the center arrow.

if your ball goes left of where you want it to go and barely misses your
target arrow, move your ball (which in real life would be your feet) to the
left just one board at a time with the edge of your ball, until you find the
correct board for you.  keep the same target arrow, same target dot or board
that you are using to spot-aim the ball for the arrow.

if your ball misses your target arrow to the right, move your ball to the
right, one board at a time with the edge of your ball, until you find the
correct board.  don't change your target spot.

most of your spares can be made with this same method, if the remaining pins
are in the middle of the alley.

outside pin-spares are made by moving the ball across the lane.  ie . . . if
the remaining pin is on the right side of the lane, your ball should be on
the left side of the lane to begin with.  and you aim the ball to go over
the arrow next to the outside arrow.  if the remaining pin is on the left
side of the alley, move the ball to the far right.  remember to make your
adjustments one board at a time and keep your aiming spot constant.

another tip, different balls on the rack have different weights and speeds
and slightly different movements.  i can tell by the sounds as they hit the
pins.  red and blue balls are lighter and slower.  truthfully, speed isn't
the best factor, accuracy is.  moving the ball one board at a time will give
you control and a sense of the logic in the game, if you keep your spots
consistant for each type of goal.

kate
> My highest one game score was 154--3 games straight were 107,106 & 101.
> This one has really hooked me!
> Gwen
 
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