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Newsgroup Spambuster - 30 May 2005 01:44 GMT
Hi Gang,

I have come to the point where I really hate to admit it, but I need
some help around the house.   I just can't seem to keep up with cleaning
as well as I used to and since I have been sick so much of this year
already, things have really been let go.   Ugggh.........I hate
admitting I can't do something by myself anymore!!!

Anyways, for those of you who have house cleaners, what is the best way
of finding a good reliable one that is fairly reasonable rate wise as
well???  

Donna G
RoseB - 30 May 2005 02:06 GMT
>Anyways, for those of you who have house cleaners, what is the best way
>of finding a good reliable one that is fairly reasonable rate wise as
>well???  
>
>Donna G

My gut feeling is by "word of mouth". Do you know of anyone who uses
such a service?

    Rose   @}>->--
    Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB

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RhondaM - 30 May 2005 03:25 GMT
PLEASE dont feel bad. I have recently gone through that too. I mean it is so
hard to admit to ourselves that there are somethings we need help with. Yes,
we used to be able to do a whole house cleaning in one day..lol.. (I havent
but have seen others who have) Seriously, it is very hard to let someone
help us with something we used to do quite well. I do not have any advice
for hiring help. I am hoping once my hubby gets a better job we might be
able to afford once a week help.
Take care ok?

> Hi Gang,
>
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>
> Donna G
Diane - 30 May 2005 03:47 GMT
my only question is, how have you done it alone for so long??

i use The Maids. they're national, so perhaps they're near you. i like
them because they come as a team and they whisk through the house in an
hour. i used to have a wonderful housekeeper whom i adored, but she'd
be here for 4 hours and i'd get no work done, so when i moved, i hired
the maids. the other reason i prefer using a company is you don't have
to worry about paying social security, etc. and they have their own
cleaning supplies.

good luck, and let us know how you make out!

diane
Carole - 30 May 2005 04:18 GMT
It's not a dumb question and I've also been finding myself thinking of
the same thing lately. With this heart thing I get tired so fast that I
have to sit just to make tuna salad. Loading the dishwasher has to be
done in bits and pieces. And I, like you, have let a lot of things go.

I actually have another dumb question. If you get someone like Merry
Maids, what exactly do they do? I mean, I know they'll clean the floors,
dust, etc. but will they change the sheets on the bed? I am finding that
to be a real chore. Do they wash windows? Mine are awful.

Let us all know what you find out, Donna :)

Hugs,
Carole :)

> Hi Gang,
>
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>
> Donna G
Jo Firey - 30 May 2005 05:33 GMT
> It's not a dumb question and I've also been finding myself thinking of the
> same thing lately. With this heart thing I get tired so fast that I have
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> Hugs,
> Carole :)

Carole, I'm pretty sure in your situation you would qualify for an aid to
help with house things you cannot do.  Thru the state.  Somebody help me out
with what they are called?  I know there are health care aids that just help
with medical, but there are also aids that do some basic housekeeping such
as changing the sheets and mopping the floors.

Jo
Newsgroup Spambuster - 30 May 2005 13:31 GMT
LOL........Carole, I had to do the same thing just the other day.   By
the time I got the onions and celery chopped for the tunafish, and then
dumped in the tuna, I had to take the bowl and go sit down.   Ended up
sitting there flaking the tuna and mixing it up before finally getting
up and adding the salad dressing to it.   Normally that wouldn't be a
big deal for me, but when I come home from the hospital it takes me a
bit to get back up to some semblance of normal.

Also, I have to agree with you, changing the sheets on the bed is by far
the hardest thing for me to do with my lung stuff. I put the bottom
sheet on and then have to take a major rest, put the next sheet on and
then sit down to put the pillow cases on the pillows, then put the
blanket on, and take another rest.   Takes forever to make the bed and
if my RA is flaring, it gets even worse.

Donna G
Nann Bell - 30 May 2005 15:47 GMT
Hey, folks, I do that and I am much healthier than you all!  well, I might
not do it on tuna salad for one, but I do it when I'm chopping for more than
a minute or two.  Lets me save that energy for something else.  (and we have
a dropleaf coffee table - I can pull up one leaf and chop in front of the TV,
heehee)

And when I felt much worse, I'd put on the bottom sheet, lay down on it for a
while, then top, and so on and so forth.  It realy sucked in Cambridge where
we didn't ahve enough room to walk around the bed and I had to crawl over it
to put on clean sheets.  Got a bit easier when we had a real bedroom again,
and even better when I finally got Enbrel.

Don't feel at all bad about getting help with the housework.  That will leave
you with some energy for life itself.  And I like the suggestion for asking
about housework type aides through the state - both of you should qualify for
such a program if it is available.

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> LOL........Carole, I had to do the same thing just the other day.   By
> the time I got the onions and celery chopped for the tunafish, and then
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> Donna G
Carole - 30 May 2005 17:34 GMT
> LOL........Carole, I had to do the same thing just the other day.   By
> the time I got the onions and celery chopped for the tunafish, and then
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> big deal for me, but when I come home from the hospital it takes me a
> bit to get back up to some semblance of normal.

I see you can relate :-)  I never had to do things this way before and
it's driving me nuts! When I filled out the form for social security on
my level of functionality, it asked if I cooked. I wrote only recipes
with four or less ingredients.  I look at some of these recipes, and
before I got sick, I would have made them with no problem. Now I get
tired just READING them! :-) I can't even fathom having to buy all that
stuff, come home and make it. No way. If someone invites me to something
now and I have to bring a dish, they'll be lucky if they get Jello :-)))

> Also, I have to agree with you, changing the sheets on the bed is by far
> the hardest thing for me to do with my lung stuff. I put the bottom
> sheet on and then have to take a major rest, put the next sheet on and
> then sit down to put the pillow cases on the pillows, then put the
> blanket on, and take another rest.   Takes forever to make the bed and
> if my RA is flaring, it gets even worse.

Yea, I have a queen sized bed which I love, but changing the sheets is
very tiring. I like your idea! I'll give it a try :-))

Hugs,
Carole :)
Carole - 30 May 2005 17:36 GMT
> Carole, I'm pretty sure in your situation you would qualify for an aid to
> help with house things you cannot do.  Thru the state.  Somebody help me out
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>
> Jo

Thanks, Jo, I'll look into it. I hadn't thought about that as when I
went to apply for assistance, they never asked if I could do those things.

Carole :-)
firechief - 30 May 2005 18:47 GMT
>> Carole, I'm pretty sure in your situation you would qualify for an
>> aid to help with house things you cannot do.  Thru the state.

And Carole replied:

> Thanks, Jo, I'll look into it. I hadn't thought about that as when
> I went to apply for assistance, they never asked if I could do
> those things.

To those who have long-term nursing home/health insurance,
those companies would be more than willing to pay for house
cleaning than having to pay room-and-board.

My mother wasn't bed-ridden, could wash/bathe/dress herself
and continued to do most of her cooking.  But her insurance
paid for twice-a-week cleaning and shopping.

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RhondaM - 31 May 2005 18:00 GMT
Good question.. I am wondering that myself. Do they do windows? I need
someone to clean under the beds like vacuuming. What about ceiling fans?
I guess for cleaning out cabinets you would get someone who does
organizational stuff?
Look at it this way we can be pampered princesses..:o)
RhondaM

> It's not a dumb question and I've also been finding myself thinking of the
> same thing lately. With this heart thing I get tired so fast that I have
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>> of finding a good reliable one that is fairly reasonable rate wise as
>> well???   Donna G
Carole - 31 May 2005 23:51 GMT
And another question I thought of - if you use a service, do you tip the
people who come to do the cleaning? Do they expect a tip? If so, how
much?  A friend of mine used to have a woman come in every other week,
but she paid the woman directly. I'm assuming that if you use a service
like Merry Maids, then you would be billed by them, and that makes me
wonder about tipping.

Carole

> Good question.. I am wondering that myself. Do they do windows? I need
> someone to clean under the beds like vacuuming. What about ceiling fans?
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>>>of finding a good reliable one that is fairly reasonable rate wise as
>>>well???   Donna G
Joan Carter - 01 Jun 2005 00:31 GMT
> I'm assuming that if you use a service
>like Merry Maids, then you would be billed by them, and that makes me
>wonder about tipping.

I used to have a service called Molly Maid, and I never tipped them.
---
Joan
Diane - 01 Jun 2005 04:21 GMT
i don't tip, but i do give each of them something at christmas.

diane

> And another question I thought of - if you use a service, do you tip the
> people who come to do the cleaning? Do they expect a tip? If so, how
> much?  A friend of mine used to have a woman come in every other week,
> but she paid the woman directly. I'm assuming that if you use a service
> like Merry Maids, then you would be billed by them, and that makes me
> wonder about tipping.
Nanny - 03 Jun 2005 04:40 GMT
Carole, I had a similar problem not knowing if it is etiquette to tip your
massage therapist as well as your housecleaner.  One time, I left $5 more
that my housecleaner charged, and she thought I'd made a mistake and seemed
really surprised, but very pleased.  I never did get a clear answer from
anyone, so what I do now is tip both my massage therapist and housecleaner
every other time.  Nanny
> And another question I thought of - if you use a service, do you tip the
> people who come to do the cleaning? Do they expect a tip? If so, how much?
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>>>>of finding a good reliable one that is fairly reasonable rate wise as
>>>>well???   Donna G
d'huit - 03 Jun 2005 05:14 GMT
best answer i've ever been given about tipping is---if the majority of their
effort made you feel good in some way that you become aware of, then tip
them.  if the majority of their effort did not make you feel good in some
way, don't tip them.

kate

> Carole, I had a similar problem not knowing if it is etiquette to tip your
> massage therapist as well as your housecleaner.  One time, I left $5 more
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>>>>>of finding a good reliable one that is fairly reasonable rate wise as
>>>>>well???   Donna G
Carole - 04 Jun 2005 11:19 GMT
> Carole, I had a similar problem not knowing if it is etiquette to tip your
> massage therapist as well as your housecleaner.  One time, I left $5 more
> that my housecleaner charged, and she thought I'd made a mistake and seemed
> really surprised, but very pleased.  I never did get a clear answer from
> anyone, so what I do now is tip both my massage therapist and housecleaner
> every other time.  Nanny

The next time I go to my cardiologist I'm going to ask him for a
referral to a massage therapist. I think my medical insurance covers it
as long as the doctor says I need it...and believe me with all that I've
been through, I need it :)  I had a wonderful one when I lived in NY.
She was on Long Island and worth the trek there. I used to make a day of
it and go to her around 11am, then I'd take myself out for lunch :)

Carole :)
Nann Bell - 01 Jun 2005 02:43 GMT
> Good question.. I am wondering that myself. Do they do windows? I need
> someone to clean under the beds like vacuuming. What about ceiling fans?
> I guess for cleaning out cabinets you would get someone who does
> organizational stuff?
> Look at it this way we can be pampered princesses..:o)
> RhondaM

My mom's experience, of many years, has been that it is very difficult to get
someone to actually clean under the beds on a regular basis.  She told many
cleaning folks that this HAD to be done, told them again and again, explained
that it was necessary with the dust allergies in our family - a matter of our
health.  And the bedrooms were all tile floors so it wasn't difficult to just
run the dust mop under the beds.  Had a devil of a time getting it done
though.  Maybe it's easier today with more folks knowing about allergies.

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d'huit - 01 Jun 2005 12:58 GMT
carole, if you are 50 or older, the local senior centers in you area should
be able to help you out with that, too.  there are a lot resources and
service organizations available.

kate

> It's not a dumb question and I've also been finding myself thinking of the
> same thing lately. With this heart thing I get tired so fast that I have
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>> of finding a good reliable one that is fairly reasonable rate wise as
>> well???   Donna G
Carole - 02 Jun 2005 08:05 GMT
I'm definitely over 50, Kate :-)  Been a card carrying member of the
AARP for over 4 years now ;-)

Carole :)

> carole, if you are 50 or older, the local senior centers in you area should
> be able to help you out with that, too.  there are a lot resources and
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>>Hugs,
>>Carole :)
d'huit - 02 Jun 2005 15:09 GMT
> I'm definitely over 50, Kate :-)  Been a card carrying member of the AARP
> for over 4 years now ;-)
>
> Carole :)

do you have a senior center nearby?  there should be several.   so far, i've
found four senior centers within a 5 mile radius of where i live and there
might be more that i haven't discovered yet.  3 are beautiful and newish
facilities, where the people who work in them and the people who are being
served by them are upbeat; but one facillity made me sad, because it is in a
very old, lodgelike structure that seems to make the people in it kind of
depressing and depressed.  based upon that seemingly emotional reflection of
surroundings, make sure the one you select for yourself has people in it
that reflect the kind of emotional outlook that is best for you.

are you in king county? i forget.  if you are, there is a regional senior
services monthly "newspaper" that is available for free at some of theses
senior centers.    i'll pick you up one and send it to you right after i get
back from portland (i can't remember if the one i can get at one of my local
centers is for south king and pierce county, but i'll check that out then.).

i'm in the process of having carpeting torn out in my hallway and large-ish
walk-in to have pergo put down before then.  (carpeting is becoming way too
difficult for me to deal with, especially with 3 shedding cats.  once i get
done paying for this installation, my bedroom carpeting is next to go.)
emptying my closet, which in part used to be a baby grand piano alcove in
the livingroom for a previous owner, is no small feat, or i'd make a dash to
get one for you before then.  i still might swing getting one for you before
the gimpfest, but i don't want to commit to that, at the moment, and not be
able to deliver on a promise.

anyway, in that "newspaper" you'll find access to senior services of all
kinds---things like meals on wheels,  transportation; and i think there are
some cleaning services mentioned too and lots of other stuff that might be
of assistance to you.

these centers also serve hot lunches, at noon, to seniors.  i actually had a
lunch at two of the centers and the meals are well balanced, quite good and
more like dinner, than lunch.  but then, lunch to me is a sammie or a piece
of fruit<smile>.  large portions, too much for me to finish; and i noticed
that seniors can take home what they don't finish, if they bring their own
containers.  these meals are free at some centers or cost a donation of
whatever is affordable to seniors.  $3 is charged to others who might attend
the meal with a senior.  tables are arranged so that nobody has to eat alone
and conversation is free-flowing.

kate

>> carole, if you are 50 or older, the local senior centers in you area
>> should be able to help you out with that, too.  there are a lot resources
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>>>Hugs,
>>>Carole :)
Carole - 02 Jun 2005 17:02 GMT
Thanks Kate. I'm actually in Snohomish County. I know I've seen senior
citizen papers at the local library but I never thought of myself as one
of them as I always think of seniors as being over 60 or 65. I have to
take some books back next week so I'll take a look and see what they
have there. If they classify people as seniors when they are over 50,
then I'd qualify :) I'll be 55 next March, and I want to start applying
for lower cost housing. My Mom had a super apartment that was for people
over 55 and she only had to pay $250 a month for it. If I could get
something like that, I'd be much better off. Still no word from social
security. How long does it take for them to make a decision?

Hugs,
Carole :)

> do you have a senior center nearby?  there should be several.   so far, i've
> found four senior centers within a 5 mile radius of where i live and there
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>
> kate
d'huit - 02 Jun 2005 18:20 GMT
> Thanks Kate. I'm actually in Snohomish County. I know I've seen senior
> citizen papers at the local library but I never thought of myself as one
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> Hugs,
> Carole :)

it generally takes around 4 months for social security to process
everything, but it could go just a tad faster, as fast as 2 months to
approve and notify, if your file is complete with everything they need.  i
have no doubt that the decision will go in your favor, as long as your
caseworker has everything.  so, don't worry about not being approved, until
you hear otherwise (and i don't think you will hear otherwise at all).
still, you won't get your first check until 6 months has passed since you
were first disabled.

it's weird in this state, carol, as to what constitutes a senior citizen.
for the senior centers in my area it's 50.  it's 55 for some things like
some business discounts and at other places of business, it's 60.  it's a
bit confusing to me, because there is no one-size-fits-all earliest
definition to qualify for everything.

i think you might qualify to put your name on the list for low rent housing
sooner than you might think, just based upon being disabled and what your
income level will wind up being.  some of the low rent housing is not based
upon age at all in some areas.  rental fees are based upon a sliding scale,
which is based upon income, as i understand it.  the waiting list is longer
in some areas and not so long in others.  so, you want to get on the waiting
list as soon as they will allow you to sign up for it.

kate

>> do you have a senior center nearby?  there should be several.   so far,
>> i've found four senior centers within a 5 mile radius of where i live and
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>>
>> kate
firechief - 02 Jun 2005 20:08 GMT
Kate wrote to Carole:

> i think you might qualify to put your name on the list for low rent housing
> sooner than you might think, just based upon being disabled and what your
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> in some areas and not so long in others.  so, you want to get on the waiting
> list as soon as they will allow you to sign up for it.

Section 8 rent subsidy for disabled is terrific and
is not based on age.  But in some areas there is
a very long waiting list - 3 years or more.

Anyone receiving SSDI should also apply for food
stamps and Medicade.  Medicare will kick in one
year after being placed on SSDI, and in some
places the state will pay the Medicare premium.

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Carole - 02 Jun 2005 23:07 GMT
>  Section 8 rent subsidy for disabled is terrific and
>  is not based on age.  But in some areas there is
>  a very long waiting list - 3 years or more.

I was told it's 8 years here. And in 8 years I will most probably have a
headstone like Norman Vincent Peale's. The average lifespan for someone
who has what I have is 7 years, but I'm already at stage 4 as far as
severity goes. So even though the doctor won't tell me, I'm thinking in
8 years I will be but a memory, hopefully a good one :)

>  Anyone receiving SSDI should also apply for food
>  stamps and Medicade.  Medicare will kick in one
>  year after being placed on SSDI, and in some
>  places the state will pay the Medicare premium.

I do get food stamps at present, also am getting Medicaid. I was told
Medicare kicked in two years after being placed on SSDI. Is it one year
or two? I just have to hope that I don't have to go into the hospital as
I'm sure these programs do not cover all costs.

> ...NORMAN VINCENT PEALE tombstone -- Positively Dead

Good one :)

Carole
firechief - 03 Jun 2005 02:52 GMT
> I do get food stamps at present, also am getting Medicaid. I was told
> Medicare kicked in two years after being placed on SSDI. Is it one year
> or two? I just have to hope that I don't have to go into the hospital as
> I'm sure these programs do not cover all costs.

It may be 2 years.  It's been so long since it kicked in for me.
Hmmmmmm, yep, my card is dated 2 years from SSDI.

Medicade (MediCal down here) paid 100% of my hospital,
doctor, and Rx costs until Medicare kicked in.   After that,
it paid all deductibles.   Even with SSDI and the Naval
Reserve's small pension, I am below the cut-off point.....
and Medicade/MediCal pays my Part B monthly premium.

MY GOSH!!!!   Mary just came home from work with some
literature from her client (who pays $5,000 monthly rent).

Do you qualify for a Medicare Saving Program know as "Qualified
Medicare Beneficiary (QMB), "Specified Low-income Medicare
Beneficiary" (SLMB), or "Qualifying Individual-1" (QI-1)?  The
federal government and the State of California jointly fund these
programs through state medical assistance programs.

If you are eligible for any of the QMB, SLMB, or QI-1 programs.
your could save up to $938.40 a yar in your Social Security
check.  Wunder the QMB, SLMB, or QI-1 programs, the state will
pay for your monthly Medicare Part B premium of $78.20 per
month in 2005, which is currently deducted from your Social
Security check.

You may receive additional information about Medicare Saving
Programs by contacting a representative of the Medicare Health
Insurance Counseling and Advocary Program (HICAP) at
1-800-804-9707, who will direct you to the nearest office in your
county.        TTD/TDY   1-877-486-2048

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Carole - 04 Jun 2005 11:25 GMT
>  It may be 2 years.  It's been so long since it kicked in for me.
>  Hmmmmmm, yep, my card is dated 2 years from SSDI.
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>  Reserve's small pension, I am below the cut-off point.....
>  and Medicade/MediCal pays my Part B monthly premium.

Hmmm, I don't know where I'll be with only my SSDI..unless I can get
long term disability from my job...not sure how that all works. I'd be
happy if my job let me keep my medical insurance though.

>  MY GOSH!!!!   Mary just came home from work with some
>  literature from her client (who pays $5,000 monthly rent).

That's small change in Manhattan :-))))

>  Do you qualify for a Medicare Saving Program know as "Qualified
>  Medicare Beneficiary (QMB), "Specified Low-income Medicare
>  Beneficiary" (SLMB), or "Qualifying Individual-1" (QI-1)?  The
>  federal government and the State of California jointly fund these
>  programs through state medical assistance programs.

The only thing DSHS said I qualified for was Medicaid, but I still have
my medical coverage from my employer. I'll have to look into all of this
when I get my notice about my SSDI...still waiting on that one.

Carole
Newsgroup Spambuster - 03 Jun 2005 12:21 GMT
Carole,

When you have the energy, do a bit more checking into things.

Usually for medicare, it is 2 years after you get your SSDI before you
get the medicare.   But, if you are ever hospitalized before that point,
most hospital social workers can work with you and help you get
emergency coverage through I believe medicaid.  Also, you may want to
double check with your employer, as I am on long term disability through
my employer, and have been for the last 10 years.  I still get my
medical insurance through them as well as a small check each month for
long term disability. That is on top of my SSDI and the medicare.   When
I had been off work for about 6 months, my employer called me and said I
had to file for SSDI, even if I was rejected, just so that they had the
paper work on file to show I had applied.  Well, I was lucky and got
approved the first time around and my SSDI amount was deducted from the
amount I was getting paid for my long term disability and the remaining
amount of the long term disability is now what I get paid from my
employer each month.   For me, that long term disability payment will
continue until I reach the age of 65 or until I die, whichever comes
first.

Also, check around in your community, because often times the services
that are out there for senior citizens will also often be provided to
those who are disabled, especially if you live in a HUD housing
building.   I live in a building that is 80% senior citizens and 20 %
disabled people under 60 years of age.  It is HUD housing, so my rent is
30% of my income.  The waiting lists for these types of living
accomadations range here, anywhere from 2 years on up to as much as 10
years.   I went around and put my name on all of the waiting lists at
one time and brought home applications to fill out for all of them.   I
mailed back all the applications and then waited.  I was lucky to have
only waited for 21/2 years before I got a call.  When I got the call, I
went over and looked at the apartment, liked it, updated my application
and financial information, and was called back to say I was approved,
told what my rent would be, and we set up a move in date.   In these
kind of situations, you usually have to be recertified every year as far
as your financial status and rent amount go.   But, by living where I
am, I am also entitled to services that are often just for senior
citizens.   Also, in my building they pay the water and the electricity,
I pay the phone, cable, and for laundry.   Each floor has a laundry
room, a trash room, and storage bins.   The mail boxes are located on
the first floor inside and there are elevators.   There is a bus that
takes you grocery shopping once a week if you don't drive or if you
don't feel like driving and they charge 25¢ per person for the trip.
There is also a cab service and handicap bus service that charge $2.00
each way for a trip as long as you reserve the ride the day before.
Because my income is so low, I am still entitled to $10.00 a month in
food stamps and for medicaid, but medicaid only after I spend a certain
amount each month in out of pocket medical coverage.   I never spend
that amount, so have never ever used the medicaid at all.  I still have
prescription coverage through my employer insurance, although the copays
are $25.00 to $40.00 for each prescription, so I still often run into
trouble affording all my meds per month as I am on about 12 different
meds/inhalers, etc.  

You have to do a bit of research and digging, but there are services out
there to help you out!

Also, don't be afraid to call and check on how things are progressing
with your SSDI application.   I waited about 3-4 weeks after applying
and called to see how things were coming along.   I then called them
back after an additional 4 weeks just to see how things were coming
along and to see if there was any thing else they needed.   Sometimes
those applications sit on a desk needing more information, but they sit
there and never let you know that they need more into.  

Hang in there and best of luck with all of this!!!

Donna G
Carole - 04 Jun 2005 11:19 GMT
> When you have the energy, do a bit more checking into things.

Yea, I wonder when that's going to be :-) I get out of breath just
taking a shower :(

> Usually for medicare, it is 2 years after you get your SSDI before you
> get the medicare.   But, if you are ever hospitalized before that point,
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> continue until I reach the age of 65 or until I die, whichever comes
> first.

Hmmm, well for me, the SSDI will be more than what I'm getting on short
term disability, and will be a LOT more than I'd get on my company's
long term disability. STD is 70% of my salary, and LTD is 50%. I also
applied for SSI, so I'm not sure where that fits in. I'd be happy if
they'd let me keep my medical insurance as it's only $28 a month for the
part that I pay, and it really helps with the prescriptions. The doctor
copays are $15 per visit, I don't know what I'd have to pay with
Medicaid as I haven't been to my cardiologist since I was approved for
that.  If your SSDI had been higher would you still have been able to
keep your long term disability? I thought that once my SSDI kicked in,
I'd have to tell my employer that I wasn't coming back.

> Also, check around in your community, because often times the services
> that are out there for senior citizens will also often be provided to
> those who are disabled, especially if you live in a HUD housing
> building.  

I don't live in a HUD building now, but I'm going to start applying. I
have to stay here for another year since (a) I don't have the money to
move right now and (b) so I just signed a lease for another year. But I
won't be able to afford this place after this year as management has
started raising the rents every year. When I first came here, they
didn't raise my rent, but now new people are in charge. So I have to
find something cheaper next year. DSHS gave me a list to call for
section 8 housing, so I'm going to start doing that next week. There are
also places out here that are much cheaper to live in, a bit farther
north from me.

The place that you have sounds like the place my Mom had. She had to
recertify her income every year, but her $850 a month apartment only
cost her $250 a month. If I could get something like that, I'd be all set.

> You have to do a bit of research and digging, but there are services out
> there to help you out!

Yes, I'll start asking around to see what I can find out.

> Also, don't be afraid to call and check on how things are progressing
> with your SSDI application.   I waited about 3-4 weeks after applying
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> those applications sit on a desk needing more information, but they sit
> there and never let you know that they need more into.  

Will do. I did call once to see if they had everything they needed and
she said they did and that my case was before whoever decides (can't
remember what she called it). I think I might call again next week just
to see what's happening as I also haven't heard about SSI and I thought
they put that through faster.

> Hang in there and best of luck with all of this!!!

I'm hanging, Donna :)  At least for now the bills are paid...now if I
could just get my body to sleep :)

Hugs,
Carole :)
Newsgroup Spambuster - 04 Jun 2005 18:13 GMT
>If your SSDI had been higher would you
>still have been able to keep your long
>term disability? I thought that once my
>SSDI kicked in, I'd have to tell my
>employer that I wasn't coming back

If my SSDI had been higher than my long term disability, then I would no
longer have received long term disability payments from my employer, but
would still have kept my medical insurance, my dental insurance and my
life insurance.  I still have those coverages even now.   My employer
usually askes for updates as to my disability about every 2-3 years, but
other than that, that is about it.   I was told never to tell my
employer I was permanently disabled as then they could stop all benefits
and list you as retired.  Right now I am listed as inactive even though
it has been 10 years and I still retain all my benefits.   Of course,
every employer is different, so your mileage may vary.

As far as HUD housing goes, apply now!!! If for some lucky reason you
get called about an available apartment before your lease is up, most
leases will let you out early provided you give at least 30-60 days
notice and provided they can find someone else to rent the apartment to.
When I moved here to where I am, I had several months left on my lease,
but they were able to find someone to rent the apartment right away, so
they let me out of my lease early.

Carole, I know this is all so hard on you and can be so overwhelming.
When I went through all of this, I had just gotten out of the hospital
after a 2 week stay.  Barely had the energy to get out of bed every day.
Do as much as you can via telephone while sitting down to reserve your
energy levels.   Keep lots of paper and pens near that chair so you can
take notes.   Know that you continue to be lifted up in prayer by many
and that there are many who have been down this road who are willing to
help you in any way they can.  

Hugs!!!

Donna G  
Carole - 04 Jun 2005 22:56 GMT
> If my SSDI had been higher than my long term disability, then I would no
> longer have received long term disability payments from my employer, but
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> it has been 10 years and I still retain all my benefits.   Of course,
> every employer is different, so your mileage may vary.

Ah,OK. So you just told your employer that you couldn't work but might
be able to come back at some point? I'm going to have to do something
soon as I have some stuff at my desk that I'd like to go and get, but I
guess I need to know exactly what to tell them. Right now I'm on
temporary disability and it's a pain as every two months my cardiologist
has to fill out this 7 page form about my illness. I feel bad for him as
it's time consuming. I know short term disability only lasts for 6
months at my company, then I'd have to go long term. 6 months for me
will be mid-August.

> As far as HUD housing goes, apply now!!! If for some lucky reason you
> get called about an available apartment before your lease is up, most
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> but they were able to find someone to rent the apartment right away, so
> they let me out of my lease early.

Yes, I'm going to apply now. I also need time to save for moving
expenses. I know it will take a while. Even when my Mom applied for her
apartment, it took about 6 months, and she only got it that fast as she
was disabled. Her apartment had stairs and she could no longer maneuver
stairs.

> Carole, I know this is all so hard on you and can be so overwhelming.

That's putting it mildly :-)))))  Sometimes I feel like I've been hit by
a bus.

> When I went through all of this, I had just gotten out of the hospital
> after a 2 week stay.  Barely had the energy to get out of bed every day.
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> help you in any way they can.   >
> Hugs!!
Thanks for the hugs and the prayers. I know it's only with everyone's
support that I'm getting through all of this and maintaining some sort
of sanity :)))

Hugs,
Carole :)
jb - 06 Jun 2005 04:53 GMT
When getting a supplement to go with medicare , are pre existing conditions
taken into consideration.like they are with any other health policy?  If any
one knows anything about this  type insurance policy please email me.
i will finally be eligible in sept for medicare after being on ssdi for 2
years plus 6 month wait period. no coverage at all now.ive been doin alot of
praying for good health. they tell me my diabeties is the pre problem not
the OA
thanks
janice
jb

| >If your SSDI had been higher would you
| >still have been able to keep your long
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|
| Donna G
Gwen Love - 06 Jun 2005 22:37 GMT
Janice, I believe that with most companies, if you get the supplement when
you go on Medicare, that all pre-existing conditions are also covered.  That
was the case when I got mine through AARP.
Gwen

> When getting a supplement to go with medicare , are pre existing conditions
> taken into consideration.like they are with any other health policy?  If any
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> |
> | Donna G
Nanny - 30 May 2005 15:27 GMT
Donna, welcome to the club of X'ers (x-tub scrubbers, x-floor moppers, etc)
LOL!  One day I saw the "light" and asked myself, "Why do you insist on
getting down on your hands and knees and squat to wash that darn tub and
floors, then suffer with more pain for a week after?"  That is when I got my
phone book, and "let my fingers do the walking" through the yellow pages.
It was hit and miss with me, Donna, because that is literally the method I
used to get a good housecleaner.  Fortunately, I've got a winner!  She comes
twice a month and washes my 2 bathrooms and kitchen for $40.  Don't know how
that compares with others who do housecleaning, but she's good at what she
does, dependable and trustworthy.  Once I saw that she was trustworthy as
well, I began leaving the house to do errands or go to the library and
allowed her free access to my home.  No regrets.

So, Donna, have no guilt or regrets it's come to this :-)  Just hope you are
as fortunate as I am in finding a good housecleaner.  Hugs, Nanny

> Hi Gang,
>
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>
> Donna G
Sunny52 - 30 May 2005 15:28 GMT
Hi Donna

I live in New England, and there were many companies to choose from in
the Yellow pages.  Before hiring a company I checked with some friends
and made some phone calls asking for rates and specific jobs the
company would perform.  I have used Merry Maids and other large
companies and have found them to be very reliable.  The advantage of
using a large company is they are insured, and they usually send in
more than one worker.

I found nearly every company very accomodating (I have used 4 or 5
already) as long as I was willing to pay for extra services.  Most
companies charge "standard cleaning" fees per room. This usually
includes vacuuming, dusting/polishing furniture and decorative items on
the furniture.  If I wanted the baseboards dusted and polished I have
to make this request and pay extra.  Bed making was not considered part
of standard cleaning, and was an extra charge.  Cleaning the oven and
fridge were also extra.

Windows were washed at an extra charge of $5.00 per window.  If a
ladder was needed to reach upper story windows, an extra $2.00 was
added per window.

At first it hurt my pride to hire housekeepers, but I realized I have
more time to spend with my family and friends.  I come home to a clean
house and I'm not exhausted or grouchy!

I no longer need them every other week, but use them once or twice a
year for spring/fall cleaning.

Good luck in your search.

Bonnie
Diane - 30 May 2005 15:48 GMT
The Maids, and i assume other companies, have websites that explain how
they work. The Maids do change my bedding (yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) as part
of their regular duties. they'll do extra stuff for extra fees, but you
should let them know that in advance so they can figure it into their
time.

diane
Newsgroup Spambuster - 30 May 2005 16:27 GMT
Diane,

Bummer......I already checked out The Maids online and they only have
one office in the entire state of michigan and it is not in my area.
They only cover 2 counties.   Hopefully someday they will expand a bit
more here in our state!

Donna G
Duckie - 30 May 2005 17:29 GMT
Donna - look for a Home Instead Senior Care in your
area. I know - the name. But if you think about it, we
all have reached that point earlier than expected. sigh
 They will come and help you shop, change your bed, do
the laundry, take you to the doctor, light housework.
If you need heavy housework - that will be different. I
think my mother is paying $15 an hour in Nashville plus
if they drive their own car to take you some place,
there will be a per mile charge. When my mother's lady
takes her out they use my mother's car so she saves
that cost. I use them to take my brother out for
visits. Actually that is what we did first. My mother's
use just started this year. The cost in the Boston area
is more but so is everything else so that is to be
expected.
Duckie

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>
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firechief - 30 May 2005 17:49 GMT
Donna G wrote:

> I have come to the point where I really hate to admit it, but I need
> some help around the house.
> Anyways, for those of you who have house cleaners, what is the
> best way of finding a good reliable one that is fairly reasonable
> rate wise as well???

Several churches in the area - Lutheran comes to mind - and an
organization called "Elder Help" for seniors offer housecleaning
and lawn care.  Some even do painting jobs and shopping.  All
work is on a "donation" basis to the organization, not the workers.

You may not qualify as a "senior" but you should inquire at some
of the churches in your area.

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Jo Firey - 30 May 2005 20:58 GMT
> Donna G wrote:
>
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>
> ... This isn't clutter.  These are my antiques!

My church has a handyman group.  They go out in pairs and do thing like
changing light bulbs and replacing toilet seats and building ramps.  Money
if any goes to the church.  Pay if you can.

Jo
banger1980@hotmail.com - 30 May 2005 18:18 GMT
I prefer using an independent person rather than a service.  If you
look in your local classifieds or check the bulletin board at a library
or grocery store you can usually find someone.  As long as you call
their referances, I find that these women tend to be much better than a
service.

> Hi Gang,
>
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>
> Donna G
d'huit - 01 Jun 2005 12:55 GMT
i'd look for licensed and bonded housekeepers in the newspaper.  but do
scrutinize their references thoroughly and check out their license and bond.
to a reference, my very first question is "are you related to or a personal
friend of so and so?"  then i let the reference know why i'm calling.

maid services are good, quick and work in teams which does expedite things.
but they also tend to be more expensive.  if you happen to find an
individual who also does commercial janitorial services, that person is
likely to be very fast and efficient, because they base their fees on the
job and not on hourly rate and they know so many more faster ways of doing
things.

creating a static check list for the housekeeper of the specific things you
want done is advisable.  that way there are no surprises on either side of
the business arrangement.  extra things you want done that are not on the
list, generally cost a bit more, but are done less frequently.

i never tipped service teams, because i rarely got the same crew members
more than once.   my individual housekeeper, when butch was so ill, didn't
like to get tips, but loved little thoughtful things and gestures---like a
plant, or a box of candy, a recipe and such.  i, too, need to find another
housekeeper.

good luck with finding a good one, hon.  it's not hard, but if you are not
feeling good about the result one housekeeper leaves you with, don't be
afraid to replace that one with another immediately.

kate

> Hi Gang,
>
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